Re: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-25 Thread Martin List-Petersen
On 24/05/10 17:28, Allan Eising wrote: In some ways, I find the MikroTik RouterOS routing filter syntax a little more powerful than Cisco's route-maps. As routing filters work the same way as firewall filters, you can group rules in chains and reuse parts of your filters in other filters by

Re: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-24 Thread Florian Weimer
* George Bonser: Well, I believe the original poster said that one of his colleagues swore that BGP multihoming wouldn't work unless both feeds terminated on the same router. I suppose said colleague has never heard of iBGP between two routers of the local AS. Those two routers should

RE: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-24 Thread Lorell Hathcock
-Original Message- From: Ingo Flaschberger [mailto:i...@xip.at] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 8:56 PM To: Lorell Hathcock Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Mikrotik BGP Question Dear Lorell, We will implement OSPF. so what arguments speak against 2 bgp upstreams? Kind regards, Ingo

Re: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-24 Thread Florian Weimer
* George Bonser: Does this really work that well? Won't you still get loops or blackholes unless the eBGP routes on all border routers are identical? As opposed to what, injecting the entire BGP table into your igp? As opposed to just injecting defaults. Maybe there is a reason the legacy

Re: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-24 Thread Allan Eising
On Sun, 23 May 2010 08:21:47 +0200, Graham Beneke wrote: On 2010/05/21 11:56 PM, Martin List-Petersen wrote: - Mikrotik still has some memory leaks in the BGP stack somewhere, causing funny issues at times. - Filters aren't adequate for my use, and lacking a lot on IPv4, but even more on

RE: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-24 Thread Dennis Burgess
: http://www.linktechs.net LIVE On-Line Mikrotik Training - Author of Learn RouterOS -Original Message- From: Allan Eising [mailto:allan.eising+gm...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 24, 2010 11:29 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Mikrotik BGP Question On Sun, 23 May 2010 08:21:47 +0200

RE: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-23 Thread Ingo Flaschberger
Dear Lorell, We will implement OSPF. so what arguments speak against 2 bgp upstreams? Kind regards, Ingo Flaschberger

Re: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-23 Thread joel jaeggli
On 2010-05-23 18:55, Ingo Flaschberger wrote: Dear Lorell, We will implement OSPF. so what arguments speak against 2 bgp upstreams? It's not an either or proposition... ospf carries your internal routes, ibgp carries you external routes between internal routers. you can carry default

RE: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-23 Thread George Bonser
-Original Message- From: joel jaeggli [mailto:joe...@bogus.com] Sent: Sunday, May 23, 2010 10:27 PM To: Ingo Flaschberger Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Mikrotik BGP Question On 2010-05-23 18:55, Ingo Flaschberger wrote: Dear Lorell, We will implement OSPF. so what

RE: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-22 Thread Lorell Hathcock
[mailto:i...@xip.at] Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 6:43 PM To: Lorell Hathcock Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Mikrotik BGP Question Dear Lorell, My question is about BGP on the Mikrotik platform. The guy who I am supplanting swears that we are supposed to be bringing the second internet link

RE: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-22 Thread Ingo Flaschberger
Dear Lorell, We are putting a private PTP metro ethernet (fiber based) link between the two locations. And both locations will have one internet connection. this network between should be no problem, what routing protocols do you use in your network? ospf? Kind regards, Ingo

RE: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-22 Thread Lorell Hathcock
Leviton Authorized Installer -Original Message- From: Ingo Flaschberger [mailto:i...@xip.at] Sent: Saturday, May 22, 2010 6:07 PM To: Lorell Hathcock Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Mikrotik BGP Question Dear Lorell, We are putting a private PTP metro ethernet (fiber based) link between

Re: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-21 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 21/05/2010 13:16, Lorell Hathcock wrote: job just fine. (And he's the same guy that has bridged this whole network, so it is easy to disbelieve his opinion.) ew. nasty. So here's the question. Is there something about running BGP on a Mikrotik platform that precludes having the

Re: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-21 Thread Bret Clark
On 05/21/2010 08:23 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: I will refrain from making any smart-ass comments about Mikrotik and BGP, but no: there is no reason whatever that you can't take your internet feeds from different locations, so long as you have a good quality interior network link between those two

Re: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-21 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: On 21/05/2010 13:16, Lorell Hathcock wrote: each other.  Just make sure your boxes have enough RAM to cope with a full dfz feed. note that you do NOT have to have a full feed on either location, if your goal is simply

Re: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-21 Thread Choprboy
On Friday 21 May 2010 05:16, Lorell Hathcock wrote: I am inheriting a WISP network with Mikrotik equipment throughout. One of my first duties is to make the network multihomed. We have our first internet connection at one location and our second internet connection will be delivered at a

Re: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-21 Thread Martin List-Petersen
On 21/05/10 13:39, Bret Clark wrote: On 05/21/2010 08:23 AM, Nick Hilliard wrote: I will refrain from making any smart-ass comments about Mikrotik and BGP, but no: there is no reason whatever that you can't take your internet feeds from different locations, so long as you have a good quality

Re: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-21 Thread joel jaeggli
Tutorial: Introduction to BGP http://nanog.org/meetings/nanog47/abstracts.php?pt=MTQ0MSZuYW5vZzQ3nm=nanog47 Tutorial: BGP 102 http://nanog.org/meetings/nanog48/abstracts.php?pt=MTUyMiZuYW5vZzQ4nm=nanog48 http://wiki.mikrotik.com/wiki/Manual:BGP_Case_Studies On 2010-05-21

Re: Mikrotik BGP Question

2010-05-21 Thread Ingo Flaschberger
Dear Lorell, My question is about BGP on the Mikrotik platform. The guy who I am supplanting swears that we are supposed to be bringing the second internet link to the same place as the first internet link for BGP to work properly. Obviously that is not true with major brand routers which