Re: VDSL >2 Pair Bonding Modems

2024-05-12 Thread Mike Hammett
I have found a modem with Positron that'll do up to 8 pair of bonding. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Mike Hammett" To: "nanog" Sent: Friday, April 26, 2024 3:09:07

Re: VDSL

2019-10-18 Thread Colton Conor
ersonally do not have our services in my area yet as I live at the > furthest possible point to which we will expand. So until then I use > Centurylink. > > > > *From:* Matt Harris > *Sent:* Friday, October 18, 2019 9:08 AM > *To:* Ryland Kremeier > *Cc:* Rod Beck

RE: VDSL

2019-10-18 Thread Ryland Kremeier
, October 18, 2019 9:08 AM To: Ryland Kremeier Cc: Rod Beck ; Nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: VDSL On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 8:46 AM Ryland Kremeier mailto:rkreme...@barryelectric.com>> wrote: Can confirm. Currently on VDSL in rural Missouri, speed is capped at 5Mb/s, but has the capability of 7

RE: VDSL

2019-10-18 Thread Ryland Kremeier
Can confirm. Currently on VDSL in rural Missouri, speed is capped at 5Mb/s, but has the capability of 7.5Mb/s. All customers from the provider here are on VDSL. From: NANOG On Behalf Of Matt Harris Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 12:38 PM To: Rod Beck Cc: Nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: VDSL

Re: VDSL

2019-10-18 Thread Matt Harris
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 8:46 AM Ryland Kremeier wrote: > Can confirm. Currently on VDSL in rural Missouri, speed is capped at > 5Mb/s, but has the capability of 7.5Mb/s. All customers from the provider > here are on VDSL. > I'm guessing from your email address that you get that from your

Re: VDSL

2019-10-17 Thread Michael Thomas
On 10/16/19 5:12 PM, Brandon Martin wrote: On 10/16/19 2:42 PM, Jeff Shultz wrote: But I'm confused a bit by the below - G.Fast is a twisted pair standard, last I saw - why would a cable (presumably coax) company be offering it?  Are they just taking over the PTT's inside wiring? G.fast has

Re: VDSL

2019-10-17 Thread Mike Meredith via NANOG
On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 09:45:35 +0100 (BST), "t...@pelican.org" may have written: > The chickens have come home to roost now though, as they're struggling to > find a cool branding for the subsequent FTTP roll-out, and not getting > any better than "full fibre", a.k.a "we lied to you last time, but

Re: VDSL

2019-10-17 Thread t...@pelican.org
On Wednesday, 16 October, 2019 19:42, "Jeff Shultz" said: > Just like any broadband deployed by a Telco gets called "DSL" these > days - even if it's 1G fiber. And even by those in the industry who > should know better. We have the opposite problem in the UK - the VDSL (FTTC) roll-out was

Re: VDSL

2019-10-16 Thread Brandon Martin
On 10/16/19 2:42 PM, Jeff Shultz wrote: But I'm confused a bit by the below - G.Fast is a twisted pair standard, last I saw - why would a cable (presumably coax) company be offering it? Are they just taking over the PTT's inside wiring? G.fast has definitions for both twisted pair and coax

Re: VDSL

2019-10-16 Thread Jeff Shultz
Just like any broadband deployed by a Telco gets called "DSL" these days - even if it's 1G fiber. And even by those in the industry who should know better. Annoying. But I'm confused a bit by the below - G.Fast is a twisted pair standard, last I saw - why would a cable (presumably coax) company

Re: VDSL

2019-10-16 Thread Bjoern Franke
Am 15.10.19 um 19:51 schrieb Eric Dugas: Bell Canada still uses a lot of VDSL2 last-miles in Quebec and Ontario. Max speed is 100/10 over bonded pairs and 50/10 over a single pair over short distances. Generally served from a fiber-fed DSLAM and less than 500 meters. In Germany 250/40 is

Re: VDSL

2019-10-16 Thread Rod Beck
10:16 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: VDSL On 10/15/19 8:25 PM, Brielle wrote: > Its actually got pretty heavy use in a lot of CenturyLink areas, like > here in Boise. Fiber is only now starting to become the norm, so > everyone is on VDSL2 in single or bonded modes, speeds all t

Re: VDSL

2019-10-16 Thread Brandon Martin
On 10/15/19 1:51 PM, Rod Beck wrote: These are large 19th century buildings with courtyards. I have seen lots of activity on this street - fiber being pulled from manhole and gear being installed in cable manholes. Corning on the cables. Sounds like a fiber-to-the-curb deployment with G.FAST

Re: VDSL

2019-10-16 Thread Brandon Martin
On 10/15/19 8:25 PM, Brielle wrote: Its actually got pretty heavy use in a lot of CenturyLink areas, like here in Boise.  Fiber is only now starting to become the norm, so everyone is on VDSL2 in single or bonded modes, speeds all the way up to around 50mbit down. AT U-Verse in ex-SBC

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Brielle
On 10/15/2019 11:37 AM, Matt Harris wrote: It's not super-widely used in the US today Its actually got pretty heavy use in a lot of CenturyLink areas, like here in Boise. Fiber is only now starting to become the norm, so everyone is on VDSL2 in single or bonded modes, speeds all the way

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Rod Beck
will often insist on rewiring the flat's own wiring if it has never provided service before. From: NANOG on behalf of Rod Beck Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:55 PM To: Phil Lavin ; Nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: VDSL The PTT is limited in 50 megs in this building

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Tim Howe
f Tim Howe > > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:47 PM > To: Nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: VDSL > > On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 17:24:44 + > Rod Beck wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to > > provide s

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Rod Beck
: Phil Lavin Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:48 PM To: Rod Beck ; Nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: VDSL > I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to provide > services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are located. VDSL > is a pretty old standard. I

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Rod Beck
: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:47 PM To: Nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: VDSL On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 17:24:44 + Rod Beck wrote: > Hi, > > I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to > provide services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are >

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Eric Dugas
My recollection is that the distance is like 100 meters. VDSL > is what the engineers deploying on the street told me. I think there is a > node right outside. > > > Regards, > > Roderick. > > From: Matt Harris > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:37 PM > To: Rod Beck

RE: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Phil Lavin
> I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to provide > services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are located. VDSL > is a pretty old standard. I recollect people talking about it back in 1998. > Is it being heavily deployed in Last Mile networks state side?

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Rod Beck
Cc: Nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: VDSL On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:25 PM Rod Beck mailto:rod.b...@unitedcablecompany.com>> wrote: Hi, I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to provide services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are located. VDSL is a

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Tim Howe
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 17:24:44 + Rod Beck wrote: > Hi, > > I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to > provide services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are > located. VDSL is a pretty old standard. I recollect people talking > about it back in 1998. > >

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Matt Harris
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:25 PM Rod Beck wrote: > Hi, > > I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to provide > services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are located. VDSL > is a pretty old standard. I recollect people talking about it back in 1998. > > Is it

Re: VDSL CPE Mixed Results

2015-01-19 Thread Colton Conor
So with this 3 line connection, what speeds up and down are you getting? You say 10X10 which I find odd for a 3 line bonded VDSL2 connection. Most always your downstream will be much higher than your upstream on a 868 unit. On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Stetson Blake

Re: VDSL CPE Mixed Results

2015-01-15 Thread Andrew Carey
Also, what do your stats look like? 6kft is getting beyond the sweet spot for VDSL2, particularly if you're trying to push 10Mbps on the upstream. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2015, at 5:36, Shawn L sha...@up.net wrote: I was going to ask if you've tested the cable pair at all. If the

Re: VDSL CPE Mixed Results

2015-01-15 Thread Scott Helms
I'm going to guess you're a CLEC from your website and a common problem I've seen in that scenario is that vectoring doesn't work between DSLAMs because it needs all pairs to be part of the vector group so that the DSLAM can mitigate FEXT. DSLAM vendors have been working on system level, rather

Re: VDSL CPE Mixed Results

2015-01-15 Thread Shawn L
I was going to ask if you've tested the cable pair at all. If the pair is bad, or even a little out of balance, bad scotch loks, etc. VDSL isn't going to work properly. We have customers that are definitely in-range for VDSL but who cannot get it because there is a 26 gauge insert between two

RE: VDSL CPE Mixed Results

2015-01-14 Thread Frank Bulk
We've used a few Zhone ETHX-344x4 (http://www.zhone.com/products/ETHX-3400/) and been happy with the reliability. Configuration was a bugger, but if you get one of those I can share my template. Frank -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Stetson