Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread Tim Chown
On 9 Jun 2011, at 05:36, Karl Auer wrote: On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 17:37 -1000, Paul Graydon wrote: Dumb question.. what does the switch (L2) have to do with IPv6 (L3), or is it one of those 'somewhere in between the two' things? Well, a modern switch should work fine, even if not directly

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread Joseph Jackson
Wouldn't the multicast flooding be just like broadcasts tho? Some of my sites don't have switches that will be upgraded or upgradeable to software that will support IPv6 directly (at least not for a few years). Is that going to cause major headaches? I under stand the RA risks but the DHCPv6

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 9 jun 2011, at 6:36, Karl Auer wrote: Well, a modern switch should work fine, even if not directly IPv6 aware, but it won't understand multicast and will generally flood multicast frames to all interfaces. So definitely stipulate IPv6 capability, even for switches Are there any

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread Joel Jaeggli
yes http://www.google.com/search?q=mld+snooping+switch On Jun 9, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 9 jun 2011, at 6:36, Karl Auer wrote: Well, a modern switch should work fine, even if not directly IPv6 aware, but it won't understand multicast and will generally flood

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread Erik Bais
Hi Iljitsch, The switches from Extreme Networks do MLD and MLD snooping, I know for sure on the x450's and up, probably below that line as well. Erik Bais Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad Op Jun 9, 2011 om 18:49 heeft Iljitsch van Beijnum iljit...@muada.com het volgende geschreven: On 9 jun 2011,

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread Ray Soucy
Cisco has had MLD snooping support for some time. But they seem to have broken it in a recent release, so it drops ND traffic and breaks IPv6; been after them to fix it, but doesn't look like it's been resolved yet. But you're correct that without MLD snooping IPv6 ND traffic is on par with IPv4

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread Martin Millnert
Iljitsch, On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 12:49 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum iljit...@muada.com wrote: Are there any switches out there that do MLDP snooping to avoid flooding IPv6 multicasts? Something as enterprisey as even HP Procurve (!) has been doing this for years. Regards, Martin

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 9 jun 2011, at 19:34, Ray Soucy wrote: But you're correct that without MLD snooping IPv6 ND traffic is on par with IPv4 broadcast traffic and not a major problem. It does mean, however, that a large IPv6 multicast stream, like video or system imaging, would be about as bad as doing so on

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread TJ
On Thu, Jun 9, 2011 at 13:34, Ray Soucy r...@maine.edu wrote: Cisco has had MLD snooping support for some time. But they seem to have broken it in a recent release, so it drops ND traffic and breaks IPv6; been after them to fix it, but doesn't look like it's been resolved yet. But you're

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-09 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Thu, Jun 09, 2011 at 01:34:25PM -0400, Ray Soucy wrote: Cisco has had MLD snooping support for some time. But they seem to have broken it in a recent release, so it drops ND traffic and breaks IPv6; been after them to fix it, but doesn't look like it's been resolved yet. Nice. Juniper

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-08 Thread Jeff Walter
On 6/8/2011 3:31 PM, fredrik danerklint wrote: How about that one? (Please reply to the mailing list only) You wouldn't be posting to the list... :-) Received: from [77.105.232.43] (port=53699 helo=fredan-pc.localnet) by mail.fredan.se with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256)

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-08 Thread fredrik danerklint
Well, that's another problem. To make a long story short, the network (not mine and I don't have any kind of control over that either) that my customers (including me) are using, did put in new equipment (a switch) over a year ago and after that I lost my IPv6 connection that I had previously.

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-08 Thread Paul Graydon
Dumb question.. what does the switch (L2) have to do with IPv6 (L3), or is it one of those 'somewhere in between the two' things? Paul On 6/8/2011 1:08 PM, fredrik danerklint wrote: Well, that's another problem. To make a long story short, the network (not mine and I don't have any kind of

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-08 Thread Richard Patterson
IPv6 has its own ethertype. (0x86DD) see the list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EtherType We've also encountered old IOSes that didn't forward Ethernet frames that contained IPv6 payload. On 06/09/2011 03:37 PM, Paul Graydon wrote: Dumb question.. what does the switch (L2) have to do with

Re: World IPv6 Only Day.

2011-06-08 Thread Karl Auer
On Wed, 2011-06-08 at 17:37 -1000, Paul Graydon wrote: Dumb question.. what does the switch (L2) have to do with IPv6 (L3), or is it one of those 'somewhere in between the two' things? Well, a modern switch should work fine, even if not directly IPv6 aware, but it won't understand multicast