Thank you all for your responses.
This was exactly the kind of information and opinions I was hoping to find-
way better than reading tea leaves!
On Jun 22, 2015 6:14 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote:
Two-way satellite systems based on SV's in geostationary orbit (like
the two you're considering) have high latency. 22,000 miles out,
another 22,000 miles back and do it again for the return packet.
Just a minor nitpick - that's
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 5:25 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote:
If you want to nitpick. ;)
Well, if you are going to nitpick, the earth is modeled more
closely (but still not precisely) as an oblate spheroid than a
true sphere.
On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 1:19 PM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:
On Jun 22, 2015 6:14 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote:
Two-way satellite systems based on SV's in geostationary orbit (like
the two you're considering) have high latency. 22,000 miles out,
another 22,000 miles back
On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 9:37 AM, Rafael Possamai raf...@gav.ufsc.br wrote:
Reading about SIP made it seem like latency alone is not an issue, aside
from delays which impact verbal communication as previously mentioned. What
is going to be much worse is jitter and packet loss. You can eventually
On 23 Jun 2015, at 3:39, Nicholas Oas wrote:
What are your experiences with the following applications?
-SSH, (specifically interactive CLI shell access)
-RDP
-SIP over SSL
-IPSec Tunneling (should be a non-starter due to latency)
-GRE Tunneling
Latency, latency, latency, RTTs, RTTs, RTTs.
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 09:11:17PM -0400, TR Shaw wrote:
I don’t know what your location is but a wireless internet provider using
Canopy or Ubiquity or whatever is much more preferable. Also cellular is used
in “remote” locations with good results.
Using the UBNT gear if you can
Reading about SIP made it seem like latency alone is not an issue, aside
from delays which impact verbal communication as previously mentioned. What
is going to be much worse is jitter and packet loss. You can eventually get
used to a significant delay, but dropped calls and chopped sound renders
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 10:39 PM, Nicholas Oas nicholas@gmail.com wrote:
Would anyone mind sharing with me their first-hand experiences with
residential satellite internet?
Right now I am evaluating HughesNet Gen4 and ViaSat Exede and I'm thinking
specifically as a sysadmin who needs to
Interesting that you say that about sip. We had a client that would use it
for sip on ships all the time. It wasn't the best but it worked. Ping times
were between 500-700ms.
It really depends on your expectations - or more to the point, your end-users'
expectations.
I've tested SIP in the
: Residential VSAT experiences?
SIP will suck. VPN will suck. RDP will suck.
Have you looked to see if you have any local wireless ISPs in your area?
Hit me up offlist if you want me to check for you.
-Mike
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Nicholas Oas nicholas@gmail.com
wrote:
Would
On Jun 22, 2015, at 4:39 PM, Nicholas Oas nicholas@gmail.com wrote:
Would anyone mind sharing with me their first-hand experiences with
residential satellite internet?
Right now I am evaluating HughesNet Gen4 and ViaSat Exede and I'm thinking
specifically as a sysadmin who needs to use
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 4:39 PM, Nicholas Oas nicholas@gmail.com wrote:
Would anyone mind sharing with me their first-hand experiences with
residential satellite internet?
Hi Nicholas,
Two-way satellite systems based on SV's in geostationary orbit (like
the two you're considering) have
VSAT experiences?
SIP will suck. VPN will suck. RDP will suck.
Have you looked to see if you have any local wireless ISPs in your area?
Hit me up offlist if you want me to check for you.
-Mike
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Nicholas Oas nicholas@gmail.com
wrote:
Would anyone mind
--- b...@herrin.us wrote:
From: William Herrin b...@herrin.us
Two-way satellite systems based on SV's in geostationary orbit (like
the two you're considering) have high latency. 22,000 miles out,
another 22,000 miles back and do it again for the return packet.
You'll start around 500ms latency
On Jun 22, 2015, at 3:11 PM, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote:
Two-way satellite systems based on SV's in geostationary orbit (like
the two you're considering) have high latency. 22,000 miles out,
another 22,000 miles back and do it again for the return packet.
You'll start around 500ms
...@nanog.orgDate: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:33:43
To: Nicholas Oasnicholas@gmail.com; NANOGnanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Residential VSAT experiences?
SIP will suck. VPN will suck. RDP will suck.
Have you looked to see if you have any local wireless ISPs in your area?
Hit me up offlist if you want me to check
Sender: NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.orgDate: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:33:43
To: Nicholas Oasnicholas@gmail.com; NANOGnanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Residential VSAT experiences?
SIP will suck. VPN will suck. RDP will suck.
Have you looked to see if you have any local wireless ISPs in your area
SIP will suck. VPN will suck. RDP will suck.
Have you looked to see if you have any local wireless ISPs in your area?
Hit me up offlist if you want me to check for you.
-Mike
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 1:39 PM, Nicholas Oas nicholas@gmail.com
wrote:
Would anyone mind sharing with me their
but it worked. Ping times
were between 500-700ms.
Regards,
Dovid
-Original Message-
From: Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com
Sender: NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.orgDate: Mon, 22 Jun 2015 15:33:43
To: Nicholas Oasnicholas@gmail.com; NANOGnanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Residential VSAT
On Jun 22, 2015, at 5:27 PM, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote:
I do SSH over geostationary satellite links (C-band) all
the time. I'd say it's slow, but not excruciating, unless
you type really fast on the network device's CLI. :-)
SSH client/server authors would do well to learn
Would anyone mind sharing with me their first-hand experiences with
residential satellite internet?
Right now I am evaluating HughesNet Gen4 and ViaSat Exede and I'm thinking
specifically as a sysadmin who needs to use the uplink for work, not surf.
What are your experiences with the following
On 6/22/2015 6:01 PM, Lyndon Nerenberg wrote:
SSH client/server authors would do well to learn the lessons of telnet line
mode.
Too bad the RCTE Telnet option never got popular...
d/
--
Dave Crocker
Brandenburg InternetWorking
bbiw.net
On Mon, 22 Jun 2015, Michael Conlen wrote:
typing things while I wasn’t getting instant feedback, though I
understand there’s software for that problem now.
Yes, https://mosh.mit.edu/ is your friend if you want to do things
interactively.
Still, satellite is painful, avoid if anything else
On Mon, Jun 22, 2015 at 5:10 PM, Michael Conlen m...@conlen.org wrote:
On Jun 22, 2015, at 4:39 PM, Nicholas Oas nicholas@gmail.com wrote:
Would anyone mind sharing with me their first-hand experiences with
residential satellite internet?
Right now I am evaluating HughesNet Gen4 and
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