Re: Reverse DNS for eyeballs?

2023-04-25 Thread Randy Bush
> I would say the absence of reverse DNS tells useful info to receiving > MTAs - to preferably not accept. yep

Re: Reverse DNS for eyeballs?

2023-04-22 Thread Willy Manga
. On 22/04/2023 16:00, nanog-requ...@nanog.org wrote: [...] [..] Really, reverse DNS these days is mostly only useful for: - mail servers (where it shows a modicum of control and clue) - infrastructure/router IPs (so mtr/traceroute can show useful info) - Peers in an Internet eXchange Point

Re: Reverse DNS for eyeballs?

2023-04-21 Thread Saku Ytti
On Fri, 21 Apr 2023 at 20:44, Jason Healy via NANOG wrote: > This is not intended as snark: what do people recommend for IPv6? I try to > maintain forward/reverse for all my server/infrastructure equipment. But > clients? They're making up temporary addresses all day long. So far, I've >

Re: Reverse DNS for eyeballs?

2023-04-21 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
We actually manually list our customer ranges in pbl, or at least used to. Probably something else that I need to check on. On Fri, Apr 21, 2023, 8:04 AM Lukas Tribus wrote: > Hello, > > > without PTRs you will probably get your prefixes listed in things like > Spamhouse PBL. So adding the

Re: Reverse DNS for eyeballs?

2023-04-21 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, heasley said: > I view complete DNS coverage to be a basic function. All used addresses > should have forward and matching reverse records. But why? It's not like anybody can trust what's in a reverse DNS string, even if it has matching forward. If I'm looking for

Re: Reverse DNS for eyeballs?

2023-04-21 Thread Jason Healy via NANOG
> I view complete DNS coverage to be a basic function. All used addresses > should have forward and matching reverse records. This is not intended as snark: what do people recommend for IPv6? I try to maintain forward/reverse for all my server/infrastructure equipment. But clients? They're

Re: Reverse DNS for eyeballs?

2023-04-21 Thread heasley
Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 07:37:49AM -0500, Chris Adams: > Once upon a time, Forrest Christian (List Account) > said: > > I have a feeling that I might be stepping into a can of worms by asking > > this, but.. > > > > What's the current thinking around reverse DNS on IPs used by typical > >

Re: Reverse DNS for eyeballs?

2023-04-21 Thread Lukas Tribus
Hello, without PTRs you will probably get your prefixes listed in things like Spamhouse PBL. So adding the correct PTR for a mailserver may not be enough, as services like that love to classify entire IP blocks. Of course Spamhaus provides the tools to fix this issue. But what if there are 4 - 5

Re: Reverse DNS for eyeballs?

2023-04-21 Thread Mark Tinka
On 4/21/23 14:37, Chris Adams wrote: I don't see any benefit to programmatically-generated reverse DNS. I stopped setting it up a long time ago now. Really, reverse DNS these days is mostly only useful for: - mail servers (where it shows a modicum of control and clue) -

Re: Reverse DNS for eyeballs?

2023-04-21 Thread Mark Tinka
On 4/21/23 15:02, Frank Habicht wrote: I would say the absence of reverse DNS tells useful info to receiving MTAs - to preferably not accept. As does a randomly-generated one... Mark.

Re: Reverse DNS for eyeballs?

2023-04-21 Thread Ca By
On Fri, Apr 21, 2023 at 5:40 AM Chris Adams wrote: > Once upon a time, Forrest Christian (List Account) > said: > > I have a feeling that I might be stepping into a can of worms by asking > > this, but.. > > > > What's the current thinking around reverse DNS on IPs used by typical > >

Re: Reverse DNS for eyeballs?

2023-04-21 Thread Frank Habicht
On 21/04/2023 15:37, Chris Adams wrote: I don't see any benefit to programmatically-generated reverse DNS. I stopped setting it up a long time ago now. Really, reverse DNS these days is mostly only useful for: - mail servers (where it shows a modicum of control and clue) -

Re: Reverse DNS for eyeballs?

2023-04-21 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Forrest Christian (List Account) said: > I have a feeling that I might be stepping into a can of worms by asking > this, but.. > > What's the current thinking around reverse DNS on IPs used by typical > residential/ small business customers. I don't see any benefit to

Re: Reverse DNS for eyeballs?

2023-04-21 Thread Bill Woodcock
> On Apr 21, 2023, at 11:38 AM, Forrest Christian (List Account) > wrote: > What's the current thinking around reverse DNS on IPs used by typical > residential/ small business customers? > I'm not talking about reverse dns for infrastructure/router IPs here, as I > still feel those need to

Reverse DNS for eyeballs?

2023-04-21 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I have a feeling that I might be stepping into a can of worms by asking this, but.. What's the current thinking around reverse DNS on IPs used by typical residential/ small business customers. Way way back in the day I used to generate "filler" reverse dns for all of these ranges .. that is,