On 1/7/21 10:31 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote:
NOC tours seem like a very 1990's thing, that and 'datacenter tours'.
I still offer them because as a small company a lot of people think
unless you're $bigname that whatever a small company can possibly offer
is trash.
- Original Message -
> From: "Valdis Klētnieks"
> On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 23:35:06 +, "Jay R. Ashworth" said:
>> > From: "Brandon Svec"
>> > It is not really different than most other tourist attractions. Some are
>> > amazed
>> > and curious to see the largest ball of twine
>> Those wo
I'd venture to say that anyone touring the facility of an industry they're
not familiar with, but intrigued by, would be fascinating to them (e.g.
SpaceX mission control as previously mentioned). Likewise, touring
facilities of your same industry could be boring.
I'm sure many of us have sunk HOUR
I’m lucky enough to give hundreds of people their literal first look at “the
internet” - and I can tell you, in many cases, it blows their minds.
Honestly watching people’s eyes light up when they see all this, or hold a bare
glass optical fiber in their hand, has got to be one of the very bes
On Thu, 07 Jan 2021 23:35:06 +, "Jay R. Ashworth" said:
> > From: "Brandon Svec"
> > It is not really different than most other tourist attractions. Some are
> > amazed
> > and curious to see the largest ball of twine
> Those would be people who *don't* do this for a living, mostly...
> >
- Original Message -
> From: "Brandon Svec"
> It is not really different than most other tourist attractions. Some are
> amazed
> and curious to see the largest ball of twine
Those would be people who *don't* do this for a living, mostly...
>
On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 1:49 PM Brandon Svec wrote:
>
> Don’t dismiss and underestimate the curiousity and amazement of those who
> have not seen such things in person.
Indeed. Not too long ago I was at the headquarters of an organization
which runs some "critical infrastructure".
In the lobby t
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Subject: Re: Show NOCs: OIG report: Should you charge extra for NOC tours?
Don’t dismiss and underestimate the curiousity and amazement of those who have
not seen such things in person. In the San F
Don’t dismiss and underestimate the curiousity and amazement of those who have
not seen such things in person. In the San Francisco Bay Area and Silicon
Valley area tourists come from around the world to see signs and parking lots
of places like Google, Twitter, etc. it is easy for me to scoff a
> On Jan 7, 2021, at 7:31 PM, Christopher Morrow
> wrote:
> NOC tours seem like a very 1990's thing
Cough, cough *Terremark* cough, cough *disco lights* cough cough.
-Bill
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On Thu, Jan 7, 2021 at 1:36 PM Sean Donelan wrote:
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> On Thu, 7 Jan 2021, Christopher Morrow wrote:
> > almost all of this seems like ... really not worth the time for
> > external people to bother with.
> > which is maybe why: "Sure, you wanna visit? pay me" (Oh, now you dont'
> > want to visit?
On Thu, 7 Jan 2021, Christopher Morrow wrote:
almost all of this seems like ... really not worth the time for
external people to bother with.
which is maybe why: "Sure, you wanna visit? pay me" (Oh, now you dont'
want to visit? ok, cool!)
I'm imagining a bunch of MBA's at large carriers thinkin
NOC tours seem like a very 1990's thing, that and 'datacenter tours'.
"Oh you like seeing people at computers and you can't get enough of
that at your home workplace?"
"Oh, you also like cages? me too!! sometimes we put 'racks' in them...
or heavens to gertrude! 'computers'!!"
almost all of this
Department of Commerce OIG review of FirstNet request to tour AT&T GNOC
https://www.oversight.gov/sites/default/files/oig-reports/DOC/OIG-21-016-I.pdf
Continued FirstNet Authority Management Attention is Needed to Address
Control Environment Weaknesses
[...]
FirstNet Authority disagreed tha
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