Re: So what do you think about the scuttlebutt of Musk interfering in Ukraine?

On 9/14/23 6:34 AM, Dave Taht wrote: This is one of those threads where I do think folk would benefit from hearing from the horses' mouths. In a recent bio of musk published this past week, the author claimed that starlink withdrew service over crimea based on the knowledge it was going to be

Re: So what do you think about the scuttlebutt of Musk interfering in Ukraine?

On 9/14/23 9:26 AM, Mike Hammett wrote: *nods* likely plenty of similar examples by less polarizing people. Then lets hear them? It certainly seems like an  operational issue if this starts to become common. How is it dealt with if at all beyond diversity which is hard to come by with LEO

Re: So what do you think about the scuttlebutt of Musk interfering in Ukraine?

*nods* likely plenty of similar examples by less polarizing people. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "Randy Bush" To: "NANOG mailing list" Sent: Thursday, September 14,

Re: So what do you think about the scuttlebutt of Musk interfering in Ukraine?

perhaps this is not a nanog operational topic

Re: So what do you think about the scuttlebutt of Musk interfering in Ukraine?

Mr. Isaacson's tweet (or X , or whatever the hell it is now ) is essentially saying Russia invading Ukraine was *not* a major war, but Ukraine attacking back to defend itself would be. Exceptionally dumb comment. I also find it exceptionally rich that Musk uses their 'Terms of Service' as a

Re: So what do you think about the scuttlebutt of Musk interfering in Ukraine?

This is one of those threads where I do think folk would benefit from hearing from the horses' mouths. In a recent bio of musk published this past week, the author claimed that starlink withdrew service over crimea based on the knowledge it was going to be used for a surprise attack. Starlink -

Re: So what do you think about the scuttlebutt of Musk interfering in Ukraine?

> Starlink isn't a monopoly. Ukraine could have guided their munitions with > Iridium or another satellite Internet system. Don't forget GLONASS.  On Thu Sep 14, 2023, 03:10 AM GMT, William Herrin wrote: > On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 5:47 PM Michael Thomas wrote: >>

Re: So what do you think about the scuttlebutt of Musk interfering in Ukraine?

I have a feeling he’s fired far too much of his legal and compliance team to realise --srs From: NANOG on behalf of Michael Thomas Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2023 6:17:17 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: So what do you think about the scuttlebutt of Musk

Re: So what do you think about the scuttlebutt of Musk interfering in Ukraine?

On Wed, Sep 13, 2023 at 5:47 PM Michael Thomas wrote: > Doesn't this bump up against common carrier protections? Hi Michael, Internet providers aren't common carriers. If they were, it'd be unlawful to stop your customers from sending email spam that was merely offensive rather than illegal.

Re: OT So what do you think about the scuttlebutt of Musk interfering in Ukraine?

On 9/13/23 8:47 PM, Michael Thomas wrote: utilities weaponizing their monopoly status to the whims of any random narcissist billionaire https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qDC3LYfHRGg Basically this? -- Bryan Fields 727-409-1194 - Voice http://bryanfields.net

So what do you think about the scuttlebutt of Musk interfering in Ukraine?

Doesn't this bump up against common carrier protections? I sure don't want my utilities weaponizing their monopoly status to the whims of any random narcissist billionaire. Mike