On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 07:06 +0100, Serge Radovcic wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a5837LcDHfE
Excellent production. Sometimes it's hard for those who have been so
involved in maintaining the grounds to describe what the forest looks
like to common folk.
Perhaps as a followup to this
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Jake Khuon wrote:
Excellent production.
... but still an advertisement for use of IXPs instead of private peering
or alike. I'd say it contains several factual errors or at least omittance
of important factors (settlement free peering in other ways than IXPs, for
On Wed, 2010-02-10 at 09:55 +0100, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Jake Khuon wrote:
Excellent production.
... but still an advertisement for use of IXPs instead of private peering
or alike. I'd say it contains several factual errors or at least omittance
of important
On Feb 10, 2010, at 3:55 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Jake Khuon wrote:
Excellent production.
... but still an advertisement for use of IXPs instead of private peering or
alike. I'd say it contains several factual errors or at least omittance of
important factors
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
And no, omittance of important factors is not a factual error in a 5
minute video of a wide and amazingly complex topic.
I guess we can agree to disagree then. I think it's highly biased towards
promoting IXPs, and it gives the impression that
On 2/10/2010 7:55 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Feb 10, 2010, at 3:55 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Jake Khuon wrote:
Excellent production.
I'll go with that.
... but still an advertisement for use of IXPs instead of private peering or
alike. I'd say it contains
Larry Sheldon wrote:
That is definitely the best answer--if you don't like it, do one (at
your expense of time and other resources) that you like better.
Zzz.
I think I am probably a member of the target audience, and I though it
was great (and recommended it to other folk).
I like it
On 02/10/2010 09:46 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
But one factual error for instance, a TCP session (a picture being
transfrred) doesn't take multiple paths, that's just wrong to say so. So
showing a picture being chopped up in packets and sent over different
paths, well that just doesn't
On Feb 10, 2010, at 9:46 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
And no, omittance of important factors is not a factual error in a 5
minute video of a wide and amazingly complex topic.
I guess we can agree to disagree then. I think it's highly biased
On Feb 10, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Jay Ess wrote:
I think I am probably a member of the target audience, and I though it
was great (and recommended it to other folk).
I like it for what it was. But i agree with Mike's points.
This video is something i could show my mother when she asks how the
On 10/02/2010 14:46, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
I guess we can agree to disagree then. I think it's highly biased
towards promoting IXPs,
Uh, it was produced and paid for by IXPs for the intention of promoting
IXPs. Why do you have an issue with this?
and it gives the impression that private
On 2/10/2010 9:28 AM, Jay Ess wrote:
So, for example, if i don't like how a car works i must be able to build
a car to be allowed to voice my opinion?
How much did you pay for the video?
--
Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to
take everything you have.
On 2/10/2010 9:42 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Not everyone who works on the Internet is a routing engineer.
I(including some who bill themselves as such.
But that is for a different rant.
--
Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to
take everything you have.
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From: Jay Ess [mailto:li...@netrogenic.com]
Sent: 10 February 2010 15:29
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: The Internet Revealed - A film about IXPs v2.0: now available
So, for example, if i don't like how a car works i must be able to build
a car to be allowed
On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 09:56:25AM -0600, Larry Sheldon wrote:
On 2/10/2010 9:28 AM, Jay Ess wrote:
So, for example, if i don't like how a car works i must be able to build
a car to be allowed to voice my opinion?
How much did you pay for the video?
What does that matter? Whether you
Le mercredi 10 février 2010 à 15:53 +, Nick Hilliard a écrit :
On 10/02/2010 14:46, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
I guess we can agree to disagree then. I think it's highly biased
towards promoting IXPs,
Uh, it was produced and paid for by IXPs for the intention of promoting
IXPs. Why
On Feb 10, 2010, at 11:50 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Wed, 10 Feb 2010, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Agree to disagree is right. The film is called The Internet Revealed:
_A_film_about_IXPs_. You find it strange that the film would actually
focus on IXPs. I find it strange that you
Look, it's a very nice video, and I think it is useful and the creators
should be complimented on their work. Overall it is something I would like
to use to educate less IP-savvy folk.
But, as a hyper-aware viewer I did detect a tone in favor of network
neutrality type arguments- and I suppose
But, as a hyper-aware viewer I did detect a tone in favor of network
neutrality type arguments- and I suppose that is OK.
is this a bug or a feature
randy
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
But, as a hyper-aware viewer I did detect a tone in favor of network
neutrality type arguments- and I suppose that is OK.
is this a bug or a feature
bug
--
Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@gmail.com)
Very cool production. For the duration and intended audience it looks
like a nice and very clear documentary about how the net works.
For insiders the last minute may feel borderline with science fiction
and advertising but I see no evil.
I think it was a great contribution from Euro-IX to relax
Cool video, it explains better than I can, I think I will show this to
my colleagues rather than failing to simplify an explanation to them.
--
Regards,
James ;)
Marie von Ebner-Eschenbach - Even a stopped clock is right twice a
day. -
After releasing the initial version of the the Internet Revealed at RIPE59
in Lisbon last year, we received some valuable feedback from the wider IXP
community. We took this feedback to the producers of the film and now have a
slightly edited version 2.0 of the film.
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