On 13 Apr 2012 22:01:14 -, John Levine said:
dnslists = dialups.mail-abuse.org \
: rbl-plus.mail-abuse.org \
Are you paying Trend for access to these? If not, you're not getting
any answers from them and they're not blocking anything.
Do they
dnslists = dialups.mail-abuse.org \
: rbl-plus.mail-abuse.org \
Are you paying Trend for access to these?
yes, i have an arrangement
I used to pay (not very much) but realized several years ago that after
using the Spamhaus lists, MAPS didn't catch
i have not tested to see who catches what. not really into spam
research. just trying to reduce it for a server.
randy
Are you paying Trend for access to these? If not, you're not getting
any answers from them and they're not blocking anything.
Do they return a canned answer that says don't block, or do you get
to wait for a DNS timeout?
Is there some reason you're asking random people rather than spending
dnslists = dialups.mail-abuse.org \
: rbl-plus.mail-abuse.org \
Are you paying Trend for access to these? If not, you're not getting
any answers from them and they're not blocking anything.
R's,
John
dnslists = dialups.mail-abuse.org \
: rbl-plus.mail-abuse.org \
Are you paying Trend for access to these?
yes, i have an arrangement
randy
On Apr 7, 2012, at 4:41 PM, TR Shaw wrote:
As for SORBS, most competent mail admins dropped its use a long time ago. I
thought when Proofpoint took it over things would change (I actually thought
they would dump the SORBS name because of bad karma) but it hasn't happened.
Out of
On Mon, Apr 09, 2012 at 09:50:00AM -0700, Brian Keefer wrote:
On Apr 7, 2012, at 4:41 PM, TR Shaw wrote:
As for SORBS, most competent mail admins dropped its use a long
time ago. I thought when Proofpoint took it over things would
change (I actually thought they would dump the SORBS
On Apr 7, 2012, at 19:41 , TR Shaw wrote:
As for Yahoo, the problem will probably go away on its own over time. The
problem with companies that are in questionable/bad financial shape is that
they defund many activities that do not seem important but actually are.
These, such as abuse
On 04/09/12 09:50 -0700, Brian Keefer wrote:
On Apr 7, 2012, at 4:41 PM, TR Shaw wrote:
As for SORBS, most competent mail admins dropped its use a long time
ago. I thought when Proofpoint took it over things would change (I
actually thought they would dump the SORBS name because of bad
Generally when faced with SORBS related blocking, I have found it far more
effective to contact the receiving side and show them the ample Google
history about SORBS and the effect it has on their ability to receive email
their customers/employees have requested, and have them either change their
dropcondition = ${if isip4{$sender_host_address}}
message = blocked because $sender_host_address is \
in blacklist at $dnslist_domain: $dnslist_text
!dnslists = list.dnswl.org
dnslists = dialups.mail-abuse.org \
On Tue, 10 Apr 2012, Randy Bush wrote:
dropcondition = ${if isip4{$sender_host_address}}
message = blocked because $sender_host_address is \
in blacklist at $dnslist_domain: $dnslist_text
!dnslists = list.dnswl.org
dnslists
Yahoo's personnel have long since demonstrated that (a) they couldn't
possibly care less about the spam, phishing, and other forms of abuse
that they're emanating, supporting or hosting on a systemic and chronic
basis (b) they are incapable of recognizing their own users, hosts,
and networks even
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
I recently had a similar run-in with another ISP unrelated to Yahoo. It
involved a phishing site on one of their customers. Countless emails to
their abuse@ email went unanswered. Then one day I bumped into their VP
who was trying to sell me
On Sat, Apr 07, 2012 at 08:33:10PM +0300, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
On Sat, 7 Apr 2012, Rich Kulawiec wrote:
Clearly, this is idiotic reasoning and only when others start
blocking their IP ranges and DNS servers will they ever wake up.
But how idiotic is it? Do you have all Yahoo IP space and
Something I'm considering is just limiting the max size of an email
from Yahoo severely, enough to say I've changed my address from yahoo
to ___.
We get pounded day and night with multimegabyte (per each) spam emails
from them.
Yahoo isn't the only one but the most frequent.
--
On Apr 7, 2012, at 6:35 PM, Barry Shein wrote:
Something I'm considering is just limiting the max size of an email
from Yahoo severely, enough to say I've changed my address from yahoo
to ___.
We get pounded day and night with multimegabyte (per each) spam emails
from them.
Yahoo
The day SORBS goes away is the day ab...@yahoo.com starts functioning
properly and yahoo starts booting spammers.
The day SORBS goes away is the day BS like this stops happening:
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
ab...@noc.privatedns.com
(reason: 554 rejected
err, i dont know but yahoo hasnt yet acquired this random webhost whose
abuse you're trying to mail
On Friday, April 6, 2012, goe...@anime.net wrote:
The day SORBS goes away is the day ab...@yahoo.com starts functioning
properly and yahoo starts booting spammers.
The day SORBS goes away
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 07:00:52 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian said:
err, i dont know but yahoo hasnt yet acquired this random webhost whose
abuse you're trying to mail
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
ab...@noc.privatedns.com
(reason: 554 rejected due to spam
On Friday, April 6, 2012, goe...@anime.net wrote:
The day SORBS goes away is the day ab...@yahoo.com starts functioning
properly and yahoo starts booting spammers.
The day SORBS goes away is the day BS like this stops happening:
- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -
ab
On Sat, Apr 7, 2012 at 7:25 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
Yahoo is only a hegemony among spam havens, not a monopoly. There's still
freelance havens out there, and they'll go away when SORBS does.
Sorbs did have a decent set of traps - and did catch a lot of spam.
The problem was
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