Re: VDSL >2 Pair Bonding Modems

2024-05-12 Thread Mike Hammett
ril 26, 2024 3:09:07 PM Subject: VDSL >2 Pair Bonding Modems I recently figured out that my Calix E7s can bond more than 2 pair of VDSL lines. However, none of my modem vendors seem to support more than 2 pair. What modem platforms are people using in this scenario? - Mike Hammett

VDSL >2 Pair Bonding Modems

2024-04-26 Thread Mike Hammett
I recently figured out that my Calix E7s can bond more than 2 pair of VDSL lines. However, none of my modem vendors seem to support more than 2 pair. What modem platforms are people using in this scenario? - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest

Re: VDSL

2019-10-18 Thread Colton Conor
We bond 8 VDSL2 pairs together, so getting 500Mbps is easily possible if they are close to the DSLAM. On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 5:28 PM Ryland Kremeier wrote: > We provide between 250Mb/s and 1Gb/s fiber-to-the-home services to all our > subscribers. We do not use VDSL. > > I p

RE: VDSL

2019-10-18 Thread Ryland Kremeier
We provide between 250Mb/s and 1Gb/s fiber-to-the-home services to all our subscribers. We do not use VDSL. I personally do not have our services in my area yet as I live at the furthest possible point to which we will expand. So until then I use Centurylink. From: Matt Harris Sent: Friday

RE: VDSL

2019-10-18 Thread Ryland Kremeier
Can confirm. Currently on VDSL in rural Missouri, speed is capped at 5Mb/s, but has the capability of 7.5Mb/s. All customers from the provider here are on VDSL. From: NANOG On Behalf Of Matt Harris Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 12:38 PM To: Rod Beck Cc: Nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: VDSL

Re: VDSL

2019-10-18 Thread Matt Harris
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 8:46 AM Ryland Kremeier wrote: > Can confirm. Currently on VDSL in rural Missouri, speed is capped at > 5Mb/s, but has the capability of 7.5Mb/s. All customers from the provider > here are on VDSL. > I'm guessing from your email address that you get th

Re: VDSL

2019-10-17 Thread Michael Thomas
On 10/16/19 5:12 PM, Brandon Martin wrote: On 10/16/19 2:42 PM, Jeff Shultz wrote: But I'm confused a bit by the below - G.Fast is a twisted pair standard, last I saw - why would a cable (presumably coax) company be offering it?  Are they just taking over the PTT's inside wiring? G.fast has

Re: VDSL

2019-10-17 Thread Mike Meredith via NANOG
On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 09:45:35 +0100 (BST), "t...@pelican.org" may have written: > The chickens have come home to roost now though, as they're struggling to > find a cool branding for the subsequent FTTP roll-out, and not getting > any better than "full fibre", a.k.a "we lied to you last time, but

Re: VDSL

2019-10-17 Thread t...@pelican.org
On Wednesday, 16 October, 2019 19:42, "Jeff Shultz" said: > Just like any broadband deployed by a Telco gets called "DSL" these > days - even if it's 1G fiber. And even by those in the industry who > should know better. We have the opposite problem in the

Re: VDSL

2019-10-16 Thread Brandon Martin
On 10/16/19 2:42 PM, Jeff Shultz wrote: But I'm confused a bit by the below - G.Fast is a twisted pair standard, last I saw - why would a cable (presumably coax) company be offering it? Are they just taking over the PTT's inside wiring? G.fast has definitions for both twisted pair and coax

Re: VDSL

2019-10-16 Thread Jeff Shultz
and they loosely call it 'VDSL'. > > -- Jeff Shultz -- Like us on Social Media for News, Promotions, and other information!!    <https://www.facebook.com/SCTCWEB/>      <https://www.instagram.com/sctc_503/>      <https://ww

Re: VDSL

2019-10-16 Thread Bjoern Franke
Am 15.10.19 um 19:51 schrieb Eric Dugas: Bell Canada still uses a lot of VDSL2 last-miles in Quebec and Ontario. Max speed is 100/10 over bonded pairs and 50/10 over a single pair over short distances. Generally served from a fiber-fed DSLAM and less than 500 meters. In Germany 250/40 is

Re: VDSL

2019-10-16 Thread Rod Beck
Well, the cable company here is offering 500 megs to the entire 5 story building. My guess is that this G fast standard is what is being deployed here and they loosely call it 'VDSL'. From: NANOG on behalf of Brandon Martin Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019

Re: VDSL

2019-10-16 Thread Brandon Martin
G.FAST ONU/DPU. A lot of the G.FAST ONU/DPUs support VDSL2 fallback which they'll use if the copper turns out to be especially terrible, too long, or the customer doesn't want more than 50-100Mbps since the VDSL CPEs are somewhat significantly cheaper than G.FAST. Might be where "V

Re: VDSL

2019-10-16 Thread Brandon Martin
territories basically was their deployment of VDSL/VDSL2 back when it was new. Some installs used bonded ADSL2+ where they didn't have a node close enough to really get any advantage of VDSL. These days, it's their catch-all name for anything that isn't classic ADSL served out of the CO, including

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Brielle
On 10/15/2019 11:37 AM, Matt Harris wrote: It's not super-widely used in the US today Its actually got pretty heavy use in a lot of CenturyLink areas, like here in Boise. Fiber is only now starting to become the norm, so everyone is on VDSL2 in single or bonded modes, speeds all the way

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Rod Beck
will often insist on rewiring the flat's own wiring if it has never provided service before. From: NANOG on behalf of Rod Beck Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:55 PM To: Phil Lavin ; Nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: VDSL The PTT is limited in 50 megs in this building

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Tim Howe
f Tim Howe > > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:47 PM > To: Nanog@nanog.org > Subject: Re: VDSL > > On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 17:24:44 + > Rod Beck wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to > > provide s

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Rod Beck
The PTT is limited in 50 megs in this building. However, the cable company just upgraded its network and is now offering up to 500. I assume the cable company is using coax and may be that gives them an edge when combined with VDSL to get up to 500 megs. From

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Rod Beck
: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:47 PM To: Nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: VDSL On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 17:24:44 + Rod Beck wrote: > Hi, > > I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to > provide services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are >

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Eric Dugas
My recollection is that the distance is like 100 meters. VDSL > is what the engineers deploying on the street told me. I think there is a > node right outside. > > > Regards, > > Roderick. > > From: Matt Harris > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:37 PM > To: Rod Beck

RE: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Phil Lavin
> I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to provide > services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are located. VDSL > is a pretty old standard. I recollect people talking about it back in 1998. > Is it being heavily deployed in Last Mile network

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Rod Beck
I understand. My recollection is that the distance is like 100 meters. VDSL is what the engineers deploying on the street told me. I think there is a node right outside. Regards, Roderick. From: Matt Harris Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:37 PM To: Rod Beck

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Tim Howe
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 17:24:44 + Rod Beck wrote: > Hi, > > I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to > provide services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are > located. VDSL is a pretty old standard. I recollect people talking > abo

Re: VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Matt Harris
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:25 PM Rod Beck wrote: > Hi, > > I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to provide > services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are located. VDSL > is a pretty old standard. I recollect people talking about

VDSL

2019-10-15 Thread Rod Beck
Hi, I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to provide services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are located. VDSL is a pretty old standard. I recollect people talking about it back in 1998. Is it being heavily deployed in Last Mile networks state side

Re: Outdoor ADSL2+/VDSL/G.Fast NIU

2016-09-07 Thread Carlos Alcantar
ent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 5:40:06 PM To: nanog@nanog.org list Subject: Re: Outdoor ADSL2+/VDSL/G.Fast NIU I think Calix has a fully outdoor version of their 844G VDSL2 modem. The problem you'll run into is the cost of bringing 12VDC through a small hole in the exterior wall (from a small indoor mo

Re: Outdoor ADSL2+/VDSL/G.Fast NIU

2016-09-06 Thread Jared Mauch
> On Sep 6, 2016, at 8:40 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote: > > This can drive the cost per building served cost up considerably, if the > ISP needs to eat all or a portion of the cost of bringing electrical > service to the outdoor mounting location. I’m a fan of this device as

Re: Outdoor ADSL2+/VDSL/G.Fast NIU

2016-09-06 Thread Eric Kuhnke
of the cost of bringing electrical service to the outdoor mounting location. On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Jeremy Malli <jer...@vcn.com> wrote: > I'm hoping somebody on the list has a recommendation for an outdoor > ADSL2+/VDSL/G.Fast NIU. Been doing so some research into this and have > c

Re: Outdoor ADSL2+/VDSL/G.Fast NIU

2016-09-03 Thread Randolph Nicklas
Adtran. Randy > On Sep 2, 2016, at 19:37, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote: > > Check with Calix or Ciena. > > On Sep 2, 2016 11:27 AM, "Jeremy Malli" <jer...@vcn.com> wrote: > >> I'm hoping somebody on the list has a recommendation f

Re: Outdoor ADSL2+/VDSL/G.Fast NIU

2016-09-02 Thread Josh Reynolds
Check with Calix or Ciena. On Sep 2, 2016 11:27 AM, "Jeremy Malli" <jer...@vcn.com> wrote: > I'm hoping somebody on the list has a recommendation for an outdoor > ADSL2+/VDSL/G.Fast NIU. Been doing so some research into this and have > come up empty so far. > > &

Outdoor ADSL2+/VDSL/G.Fast NIU

2016-09-02 Thread Jeremy Malli
I'm hoping somebody on the list has a recommendation for an outdoor ADSL2+/VDSL/G.Fast NIU. Been doing so some research into this and have come up empty so far. My thinking is that by housing the DSL CPE outside the residence in an enclosure we can reduce the issues with IW (since we would

Re: VDSL CPE Mixed Results

2015-01-19 Thread Colton Conor
...@datayardworks.com wrote: Hey All, We have been deploying Adtran 838(shdsl) and 868(dsl) units in our metro area with mixed results. The devices themselves are reliable and secure it would seem, but the speeds were are able to get are not. ie. we have deployed 'vdsl' and needed 3 lines to get up

Re: VDSL CPE Mixed Results

2015-01-15 Thread Andrew Carey
. If the pair is bad, or even a little out of balance, bad scotch loks, etc. VDSL isn't going to work properly. We have customers that are definitely in-range for VDSL but who cannot get it because there is a 26 gauge insert between two cross-connect cabinets in the field On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:15

Re: VDSL CPE Mixed Results

2015-01-15 Thread Scott Helms
Adtran 838(shdsl) and 868(dsl) units in our metro area with mixed results. The devices themselves are reliable and secure it would seem, but the speeds were are able to get are not. ie. we have deployed 'vdsl' and needed 3 lines to get up to 10x10 speeds. We are using an Adtran TA5000

Re: VDSL CPE Mixed Results

2015-01-15 Thread Shawn L
I was going to ask if you've tested the cable pair at all. If the pair is bad, or even a little out of balance, bad scotch loks, etc. VDSL isn't going to work properly. We have customers that are definitely in-range for VDSL but who cannot get it because there is a 26 gauge insert between two

RE: VDSL CPE Mixed Results

2015-01-14 Thread Frank Bulk
Blake Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 8:29 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: VDSL CPE Mixed Results Hey All, We have been deploying Adtran 838(shdsl) and 868(dsl) units in our metro area with mixed results. The devices themselves are reliable and secure it would seem, but the speeds were

VDSL concentrator

2014-10-06 Thread Mirko Maffioli
I'm searching for a low price VDSL DSLAM like e.g. the Patton FF3210P. I need to redistribute the connectivity to customers inside a large campus but i don't need any particular additional service. Do you have any advice? Thanks! Mirko