ril 26, 2024 3:09:07 PM
Subject: VDSL >2 Pair Bonding Modems
I recently figured out that my Calix E7s can bond more than 2 pair of VDSL
lines. However, none of my modem vendors seem to support more than 2 pair. What
modem platforms are people using in this scenario?
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Mike Hammett
I recently figured out that my Calix E7s can bond more than 2 pair of VDSL
lines. However, none of my modem vendors seem to support more than 2 pair. What
modem platforms are people using in this scenario?
-
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
Midwest
We bond 8 VDSL2 pairs together, so getting 500Mbps is easily possible if
they are close to the DSLAM.
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 5:28 PM Ryland Kremeier
wrote:
> We provide between 250Mb/s and 1Gb/s fiber-to-the-home services to all our
> subscribers. We do not use VDSL.
>
> I p
We provide between 250Mb/s and 1Gb/s fiber-to-the-home services to all our
subscribers. We do not use VDSL.
I personally do not have our services in my area yet as I live at the furthest
possible point to which we will expand. So until then I use Centurylink.
From: Matt Harris
Sent: Friday
Can confirm. Currently on VDSL in rural Missouri, speed is capped at 5Mb/s, but
has the capability of 7.5Mb/s. All customers from the provider here are on VDSL.
From: NANOG On Behalf Of Matt Harris
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 12:38 PM
To: Rod Beck
Cc: Nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: VDSL
On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 8:46 AM Ryland Kremeier
wrote:
> Can confirm. Currently on VDSL in rural Missouri, speed is capped at
> 5Mb/s, but has the capability of 7.5Mb/s. All customers from the provider
> here are on VDSL.
>
I'm guessing from your email address that you get th
On 10/16/19 5:12 PM, Brandon Martin wrote:
On 10/16/19 2:42 PM, Jeff Shultz wrote:
But I'm confused a bit by the below - G.Fast is a twisted pair
standard, last I saw - why would a cable (presumably coax) company be
offering it? Are they just taking over the PTT's inside wiring?
G.fast has
On Thu, 17 Oct 2019 09:45:35 +0100 (BST), "t...@pelican.org"
may have written:
> The chickens have come home to roost now though, as they're struggling to
> find a cool branding for the subsequent FTTP roll-out, and not getting
> any better than "full fibre", a.k.a "we lied to you last time, but
On Wednesday, 16 October, 2019 19:42, "Jeff Shultz"
said:
> Just like any broadband deployed by a Telco gets called "DSL" these
> days - even if it's 1G fiber. And even by those in the industry who
> should know better.
We have the opposite problem in the
On 10/16/19 2:42 PM, Jeff Shultz wrote:
But I'm confused a bit by the below - G.Fast is a twisted pair
standard, last I saw - why would a cable (presumably coax) company be
offering it? Are they just taking over the PTT's inside wiring?
G.fast has definitions for both twisted pair and coax
and they loosely call it 'VDSL'.
>
>
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Am 15.10.19 um 19:51 schrieb Eric Dugas:
Bell Canada still uses a lot of VDSL2 last-miles in Quebec and Ontario.
Max speed is 100/10 over bonded pairs and 50/10 over a single pair over
short distances. Generally served from a fiber-fed DSLAM and less than
500 meters.
In Germany 250/40 is
Well, the cable company here is offering 500 megs to the entire 5 story
building. My guess is that this G fast standard is what is being deployed here
and they loosely call it 'VDSL'.
From: NANOG on behalf of Brandon Martin
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2019
G.FAST ONU/DPU.
A lot of the G.FAST ONU/DPUs support VDSL2 fallback which they'll use if
the copper turns out to be especially terrible, too long, or the
customer doesn't want more than 50-100Mbps since the VDSL CPEs are
somewhat significantly cheaper than G.FAST. Might be where "V
territories basically was their deployment of
VDSL/VDSL2 back when it was new. Some installs used bonded ADSL2+ where
they didn't have a node close enough to really get any advantage of VDSL.
These days, it's their catch-all name for anything that isn't classic
ADSL served out of the CO, including
On 10/15/2019 11:37 AM, Matt Harris wrote:
It's not super-widely used in the US today
Its actually got pretty heavy use in a lot of CenturyLink areas, like
here in Boise. Fiber is only now starting to become the norm, so
everyone is on VDSL2 in single or bonded modes, speeds all the way
will often insist on rewiring
the flat's own wiring if it has never provided service before.
From: NANOG on behalf of Rod Beck
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:55 PM
To: Phil Lavin ; Nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: VDSL
The PTT is limited in 50 megs in this building
f Tim Howe
>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:47 PM
> To: Nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: VDSL
>
> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 17:24:44 +
> Rod Beck wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to
> > provide s
The PTT is limited in 50 megs in this building. However, the cable company just
upgraded its network and is now offering up to 500. I assume the cable company
is using coax and may be that gives them an edge when combined with VDSL to get
up to 500 megs.
From
: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:47 PM
To: Nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: VDSL
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 17:24:44 +
Rod Beck wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to
> provide services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are
>
My recollection is that the distance is like 100 meters. VDSL
> is what the engineers deploying on the street told me. I think there is a
> node right outside.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Roderick.
>
> From: Matt Harris
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:37 PM
> To: Rod Beck
> I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to provide
> services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are located. VDSL
> is a pretty old standard. I recollect people talking about it back in 1998.
> Is it being heavily deployed in Last Mile network
I understand. My recollection is that the distance is like 100 meters. VDSL is
what the engineers deploying on the street told me. I think there is a node
right outside.
Regards,
Roderick.
From: Matt Harris
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 7:37 PM
To: Rod Beck
On Tue, 15 Oct 2019 17:24:44 +
Rod Beck wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to
> provide services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are
> located. VDSL is a pretty old standard. I recollect people talking
> abo
On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:25 PM Rod Beck
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to provide
> services up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are located. VDSL
> is a pretty old standard. I recollect people talking about
Hi,
I discovered that the Budapest cable company was using VDLS to provide services
up to 500 megs into the buildings where my flats are located. VDSL is a pretty
old standard. I recollect people talking about it back in 1998.
Is it being heavily deployed in Last Mile networks state side
ent: Tuesday, September 6, 2016 5:40:06 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org list
Subject: Re: Outdoor ADSL2+/VDSL/G.Fast NIU
I think Calix has a fully outdoor version of their 844G VDSL2 modem. The
problem you'll run into is the cost of bringing 12VDC through a small hole
in the exterior wall (from a small indoor mo
> On Sep 6, 2016, at 8:40 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
>
> This can drive the cost per building served cost up considerably, if the
> ISP needs to eat all or a portion of the cost of bringing electrical
> service to the outdoor mounting location.
I’m a fan of this device as
of the cost of bringing electrical
service to the outdoor mounting location.
On Fri, Sep 2, 2016 at 9:24 AM, Jeremy Malli <jer...@vcn.com> wrote:
> I'm hoping somebody on the list has a recommendation for an outdoor
> ADSL2+/VDSL/G.Fast NIU. Been doing so some research into this and have
> c
Adtran.
Randy
> On Sep 2, 2016, at 19:37, Josh Reynolds <j...@kyneticwifi.com> wrote:
>
> Check with Calix or Ciena.
>
> On Sep 2, 2016 11:27 AM, "Jeremy Malli" <jer...@vcn.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm hoping somebody on the list has a recommendation f
Check with Calix or Ciena.
On Sep 2, 2016 11:27 AM, "Jeremy Malli" <jer...@vcn.com> wrote:
> I'm hoping somebody on the list has a recommendation for an outdoor
> ADSL2+/VDSL/G.Fast NIU. Been doing so some research into this and have
> come up empty so far.
>
>
&
I'm hoping somebody on the list has a recommendation for an outdoor
ADSL2+/VDSL/G.Fast NIU. Been doing so some research into this and have come up
empty so far.
My thinking is that by housing the DSL CPE outside the residence in an
enclosure we can reduce the issues with IW (since we would
...@datayardworks.com wrote:
Hey All,
We have been deploying Adtran 838(shdsl) and 868(dsl) units in our metro
area with mixed results. The devices themselves are reliable and secure
it would seem, but the speeds were are able to get are not. ie. we have
deployed 'vdsl' and needed 3 lines to get up
. If the pair is
bad, or even a little out of balance, bad scotch loks, etc. VDSL isn't
going to work properly.
We have customers that are definitely in-range for VDSL but who cannot get
it because there is a 26 gauge insert between two cross-connect cabinets in
the field
On Thu, Jan 15, 2015 at 8:15
Adtran 838(shdsl) and 868(dsl) units in our metro
area with mixed results. The devices themselves are reliable and secure
it would seem, but the speeds were are able to get are not. ie. we have
deployed 'vdsl' and needed 3 lines to get up to 10x10 speeds. We are
using an Adtran TA5000
I was going to ask if you've tested the cable pair at all. If the pair is
bad, or even a little out of balance, bad scotch loks, etc. VDSL isn't
going to work properly.
We have customers that are definitely in-range for VDSL but who cannot get
it because there is a 26 gauge insert between two
Blake
Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2015 8:29 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: VDSL CPE Mixed Results
Hey All,
We have been deploying Adtran 838(shdsl) and 868(dsl) units in our metro
area with mixed results. The devices themselves are reliable and secure
it would seem, but the speeds were
I'm searching for a low price VDSL DSLAM like e.g. the Patton FF3210P.
I need to redistribute the connectivity to customers inside a large campus
but i don't need any particular additional service.
Do you have any advice?
Thanks!
Mirko
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