On 28/07/2010 15:17, Tony Finch wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Joe Greco wrote:
Weren't the FCC and att recently suggesting that VoIP was the future of
telephony?
BT are currently upgrading the UK's phone system to VOIP. But it's running
on a private network.
Aren't BT still failing to trust
On 2010-07-30, at 07:59, Marshall Eubanks wrote:
Hmm. Looks like an RFC, but isn't. Do you know if there are any plans to
actually publish this ?
The authoritative and current ICANN DPS is published here:
https://www.iana.org/dnssec/
My understanding is that the current copyright and the
On Jul 30, 2010, at 12:55 AM, James Hess wrote:
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Franck Martin fra...@genius.com
wrote:
Hmmm, from the interview of the British guy, the smart card seems
to be in UK (he did a lapsus on it), which differs from what you
describe.
You gotta read up on the
The story keeps growing out of proportion and in the wrong direction ...
This one claims that six guys hold the keys to bring back porn :
http://indyposted.com/34983/six-guys-have-the-keys-to-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-15785
And ABC is talking about the brotherhood :
On 2010-07-28, at 18:24, andrew.wallace wrote:
I think there is a social vulnerability in a group of people who need to
travel,
a lot of the time, by plane, to exactly the same location to make new keys to
reset DNSSEC.
Let's try to forget this reset DNSSEC meme. This is a technical
By publicising the list of crypto officers ICANN aims to increase
transparency in the normal process (no drills required). We have no reason to
think that our last-resort options will ever be exercised, but we have
planned for them nonetheless because this is an important system and all
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:19:45 CDT, Jorge Amodio said:
I suggest that it should be seriously considered to revoke the role of
RKSH from the person that used that role to obtain publicity and self
promotion, and request the immediate return of all cryptographic
material. This is not something to
Subject: Re: Web expert on his 'catastrophe' key for the internet
On 2010-07-28, at 18:24, andrew.wallace wrote:
I think there is a social vulnerability in a group of people who need to
travel,
a lot of the time, by plane, to exactly the same location to make new keys to
reset DNSSEC
A pretty good article that puts a lot of the rest of it back into perspective:
http://www.digitalsociety.org/2010/07/fantasy-role-playing-has-no-place-in-dnssec
Good article indeed.
It is highly unlikely that we will ever need the service of the RKSH,
I agree that a well know public figure
On 07/29/10 20:23, Franck Martin wrote:
I should read the spec
Yes, preferably before commenting on it publicly ...
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On 07/29/10 20:09, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:19:45 CDT, Jorge Amodio said:
I suggest that it should be seriously considered to revoke the role of
RKSH from the person that used that role to obtain publicity and self
promotion, and request the immediate return of
- Original Message -
From: Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us
To: Franck Martin fra...@genius.com
Cc: Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca, nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Friday, 30 July, 2010 3:49:04 PM
Subject: Re: Web expert on his 'catastrophe' key for the internet
On 07/29/10 20:23, Franck Martin
On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 10:23 PM, Franck Martin fra...@genius.com wrote:
Hmmm, from the interview of the British guy, the smart card seems to be in UK
(he did a lapsus on it), which differs from what you describe.
You gotta read up on the whole ceremony and their statement of
practices:
On Fri, 30 Jul 2010, Joe Abley wrote:
One observation from a non-crypto operations guy that was drawn into
this project and has learnt a lot from having to implement the
infrastructure designed by real crypto people: security is not always
obvious. What seems like a flaw is often not, and what
On 28 July 2010 04:52, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net wrote:
Right, I think I pointed out it was basically SMS, despite being billed
as enterprise paging, which brings us back to the previous question
Or are you saying that there are SMS networks out there that aren't part
of the cellular
On 07/28/2010 02:21 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
That plus the phrase restarting the Internet is more than a little bit
misleading.
If you think that is misleading, you would want to see this article:
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/836210-brit-given-a-key-to-unlock-the-internet
By
Leen Besselink wrote:
On 07/28/2010 02:21 AM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote:
That plus the phrase restarting the Internet is more than a little bit
misleading.
If you think that is misleading, you would want to see this article:
andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com (andrew.wallace) wrote:
A British computer expert has been entrusted with part of a digital key, to
help
restart the internet in the event of a major catastrophe.
Paul Kane talked to Eddie Mair on Radio 4's PM programme about what he might
be
called
On Wed, 2010-07-28 at 10:33 +0200, Elmar K. Bins wrote:
One, I do not see the operational relevance of this news.
The real problem is that articles like this DO get considerable
attention in the UK - a place where the internet has yet to gain true
understanding and recognition as a national
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010, Joe Greco wrote:
Weren't the FCC and att recently suggesting that VoIP was the future of
telephony?
BT are currently upgrading the UK's phone system to VOIP. But it's running
on a private network.
Tony.
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On Wed, 28 Jul 2010, Leen Besselink wrote:
If you think that is misleading, you would want to see this article:
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/836210-brit-given-a-key-to-unlock-the-internet
See also the press releases from Bath University:
On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 9:33 AM, Elmar K. Bins e...@4ever.de wrote:
andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com (andrew.wallace) wrote:
A British computer expert has been entrusted with part of a digital key, to
help
restart the internet in the event of a major catastrophe.
Paul Kane talked to Eddie
Of course this is just my opinion.
Which is totally unfounded and equivalent to a ton of dung.
Please stop with the non-operational content conspiracy theories, tnx.
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 09:24:57 PDT, andrew.wallace said:
What I think is, this is leaving them wide open to attack. If an attack was
state-sponsored, its likely they would be able to stop those selected people
reaching the location in the United States by way of operational officers
Obviously you have approximately zero understanding of the crypto community.
They tend to be the most paranoid people out there - and the *only* way to get
acceptance of a signed root was to make sure that ICANN is *not* in posession
of enough keying material to sign a key by itself. In
On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 14:20:51 CDT, Jorge Amodio said:
Also, these famous guys selected as part of the TCR group where the
number is not actually seven, don't even have enough material to sign
anything by themselves.
Of course not. The only real requirement is that the TCR group hold enough
Also, these famous guys selected as part of the TCR group where the
number is not actually seven, don't even have enough material to sign
anything by themselves.
Of course not. The only real requirement is that the TCR group hold enough
shares so ICANN can't sign anything without them. For
On 7/28/2010 1:16 PM, Jorge Amodio wrote:
Also, these famous guys selected as part of the TCR group where the
number is not actually seven, don't even have enough material to sign
anything by themselves.
Of course not. The only real requirement is that the TCR group hold enough
shares so
A British computer expert has been entrusted with part of a digital key, to
help
restart the internet in the event of a major catastrophe.
Paul Kane talked to Eddie Mair on Radio 4's PM programme about what he might be
called upon to do in the event of an international online emergency.
Great! So I assume he is an elder of the Internet?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRmxXp62O8g
On 7/27/10 4:43 PM, andrew.wallace andrew.wall...@rocketmail.com wrote:
A British computer expert has been entrusted with part of a digital key, to
help
restart the internet in the event of a
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:43:21 PDT, andrew.wallace said:
A British computer expert has been entrusted with part of a digital key, to
help
restart the internet in the event of a major catastrophe.
You *do* realize this news is like two months old, right?
Those of us who lived through the Morris worm fragmenting the Arpa/Milnet in
1988 and things like major worm-induced outages remember what a hassle it was
to *really* restart the net. Calling up your upstream on the phone asking if
it
was safe to turn up the link again, or looking for help
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net wrote:
As wonderful as the new communications paradigms are, do we also
have a situation now developing where it might eventually become
very difficult or even impossible to ensure out-of-band lines of
communications remain
On Tue, Jul 27, 2010 at 5:38 PM, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net wrote:
As wonderful as the new communications paradigms are, do we also
have a situation now developing where it might eventually become
very difficult or even impossible to ensure out-of-band lines of
communications remain
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:21:56 -0400, Jim Richardson
weaselkee...@gmail.com wrote:
That's already a problem for getting alert pages. Any actual *pager*
companies left? They all seem to have gone to SMS systems.
SkyTel is the only one I remember. Sadly, their coverage is about that of
Cricket
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:37:57 -0400, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net wrote:
Relatively speaking, att's Enterprise Paging (which appears to just be
enterprise SMS with a TAP/SNPP gateway) has been a lot more reliable. I
have no idea how reliable it'd be in a major telecom crisis, of course.
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