- Original Message -
From: Jimmy Hess mysi...@gmail.com
I guess the networking equivalent is --- you stop paying for your OC3
with $BIG_TELCO for a few months, and you get it turned off, but for
some reason the physical cabling isn't physically removed. A few months
later, you decide
Actually, the unit still works as an e-mail filter. You can still access the Barracuda
reputation list with it
and it does SPF and Baysian filtering still. It also lets you configure black
lists and other RBLs as well, so
it still has utility. The thing that you don't get is updated SPAM and
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 8:46 AM, Nathan Eisenberg
nat...@atlasnetworks.us wrote:
In fact, it's not. If you miss your renewal payment for, frex, Safari
books, they actually slip your cycle date to when you renew -- since you
don't
[...]
But, effectively, he's a new client, and should
On 12/21/2011 3:22 PM, David Swafford wrote:
In my position within the enterprise vertical, backdating to the
expiration (not the payment date) seems to be the norm. Cisco does
this on SmartNet, as does SolarWinds and a number of other vendors
I've worked with. We don't typically slip on
This particular product is often used by the SMB types. This changes
things a bit. While I disagree with paying for signature updates you
didn't use (It's a service, and I don't care about their fixed costs, I
went into it knowing I'd have a license for the signatures as they were
expired), I do
In a message written on Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 12:26:56PM -0600, PC wrote:
This particular product is often used by the SMB types. This changes
things a bit. While I disagree with paying for signature updates you
didn't use (It's a service, and I don't care about their fixed costs, I
went into
On 12/22/2011 10:47 AM, Leo Bicknell wrote:
In a message written on Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 12:26:56PM -0600, PC wrote:
This particular product is often used by the SMB types. This changes
things a bit. While I disagree with paying for signature updates you
didn't use (It's a service, and I
In a message written on Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 10:54:55AM -0800, Michael Thomas
wrote:
At that point why should they sell iron at all? Seems like you get
all of the downside of owning the iron, and all of the downside of
paying for a cloud based service. Either you own what you own,
or you pay
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011, Michael Thomas wrote:
At that point why should they sell iron at all? Seems like you get
all of the downside of owning the iron, and all of the downside of
paying for a cloud based service. Either you own what you own,
or you pay for service that somebody else provides.
On 12/22/2011 11:07 AM, Jon Lewis wrote:
On Thu, 22 Dec 2011, Michael Thomas wrote:
At that point why should they sell iron at all? Seems like you get
all of the downside of owning the iron, and all of the downside of
paying for a cloud based service. Either you own what you own,
or you pay
On 22 December 2011 14:07, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote:
Presumably, Barracuda's hardware is i386/i686 compatible commodity parts.
It's probably not at all useless. Just attach a USB DVD drive or USB
flash drive, wipe the disk(s) and install your favorite Linux distro.
It may take some
The vmware image is more expensive than the midrange hardware. (and you pay for
how many processors it will use, ram, features like multi domain support,
etc...)
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Information Services Manager - Fayetteville Public Utilities
http://www.fpu-tn.com/
On Wed, Dec 21, 2011 at 11:54 AM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
Leveraging a superior bargaining position to achieve more revenue from a
kind of high-risk customer doesn't sound dishonest it sounds
rational.
Why would an agreement be denominated as 1 year maintenance if it could
Well look what was in my in-box this morning! Looks like Barracuda Networks is
sending
out spam again. Maybe word is getting around about their less that value-full renewal
policy. Could it be that people are starting to resent being taken advantage of??
See my response below their message.
- Original Message -
From: John Peach john-na...@johnpeach.com
On Wed, 21 Dec 2011 09:36:08 -0600
John Palmer \(NANOG Acct\) nan...@adns.net wrote:
Well look what was in my in-box this morning! Looks like Barracuda
Networks is sending out spam again. Maybe word is getting around
In fact, it's not. If you miss your renewal payment for, frex, Safari
books,
they actually slip your cycle date to when you renew -- since you don't
*get*
the service between the expire date and the renew date, I concur with
his
appraisal that you shouldn't be paying for it, either.
If
On 21 December 2011 13:46, Nathan Eisenberg nat...@atlasnetworks.us wrote:
I've always strongly felt that this was a rather foul business practice,
wherever I've seen it. The justification for it is the utterly misguided
belief that, if allowed to, customers will pay for a month then cancel
On 21 Dec 2011, at 18:46, Nathan Eisenberg wrote:
In fact, it's not. If you miss your renewal payment for, frex, Safari
books,
they actually slip your cycle date to when you renew -- since you don't
*get*
the service between the expire date and the renew date, I concur with
his
appraisal
On Dec 21, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Edward Dore wrote:
On 21 Dec 2011, at 18:46, Nathan Eisenberg wrote:
In fact, it's not. If you miss your renewal payment for, frex, Safari
books,
they actually slip your cycle date to when you renew -- since you don't
*get*
the service between the expire
In my position within the enterprise vertical, backdating to the
expiration (not the payment date) seems to be the norm. Cisco does
this on SmartNet, as does SolarWinds and a number of other vendors
I've worked with. We don't typically slip on the dates intentionally,
but our procurement and
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