Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-13 Thread Henry Linneweh
: Re: Rugged wireless bridge I found this sucker so far, I guess it has to be waterproof rather than just rugged. http://www.korenixsecurity.com/products/weatherproof-ethernet-switch/jetnet-3706-rj On May 12, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: Not sure how outdoor-worthy those guys

Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Hugh Irvine
connectivity to an outdoor parking lot for security devices like a camera, and emergency phone and a gate. Does anyone have any suggestions on a wireless bridge and an outdoor rated switch if such exists? How do people provide IP to outdoor locations like a surface parking lot? http

Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Andrey Khomyakov
Hi all again Thanks for all the links. Lots of wifi solutions. The main problem I'm facing is the fact that I need more than one copper ethernet connection at those outdoor locations. Meaning that I'll have at least two or three IP cameras (PoE desired) and a automatic security gate. So, I

Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Lyon
Andrey, Some of the UBNT gear have two ethernet ports, some models pass PoE, some don't. What I would do is to get a switch with or without PoE, put them into a NEMA 4 enclosure. Then put water-proof ethernet feedthrough bushings on the enclosure. How many locations do you have to do this at?

Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Pete Carah
On 05/12/2010 06:53 PM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote: Hi all again Thanks for all the links. Lots of wifi solutions. The main problem I'm facing is the fact that I need more than one copper ethernet connection at those outdoor locations. Meaning that I'll have at least two or three IP cameras

Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/12/2010 15:53, Andrey Khomyakov wrote: Hi all again Thanks for all the links. Lots of wifi solutions. The main problem I'm facing is the fact that I need more than one copper ethernet connection at those outdoor locations. Meaning that I'll have at least two or three IP cameras (PoE

Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Mike Lyon
Not sure how outdoor-worthy those guys are... -Mike On Wed, May 12, 2010 at 4:04 PM, Seth Mattinen se...@rollernet.us wrote: On 5/12/2010 15:53, Andrey Khomyakov wrote: Hi all again Thanks for all the links. Lots of wifi solutions. The main problem I'm facing is the fact that I need

Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 5/12/2010 16:11, Mike Lyon wrote: Not sure how outdoor-worthy those guys are... Put them in a box. ~Seth

Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Andrey Khomyakov
I found this sucker so far, I guess it has to be waterproof rather than just rugged. http://www.korenixsecurity.com/products/weatherproof-ethernet-switch/jetnet-3706-rj On May 12, 2010, at 7:11 PM, Mike Lyon wrote: Not sure how outdoor-worthy those guys are... -Mike On Wed, May 12,

Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Pete Carah
On 05/12/2010 07:23 PM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote: I found this sucker so far, I guess it has to be waterproof rather than just rugged. http://www.korenixsecurity.com/products/weatherproof-ethernet-switch/jetnet-3706-rj And,

Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-12 Thread Pete Carah
On 05/12/2010 08:30 PM, Pete Carah wrote: On 05/12/2010 07:23 PM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote: I found this sucker so far, I guess it has to be waterproof rather than just rugged. http://www.korenixsecurity.com/products/weatherproof-ethernet-switch/jetnet-3706-rj And,

Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-11 Thread Andrey Khomyakov
Hi all, I need to provide IP connectivity to an outdoor parking lot for security devices like a camera, and emergency phone and a gate. Does anyone have any suggestions on a wireless bridge and an outdoor rated switch if such exists? How do people provide IP to outdoor locations like a surface

Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-11 Thread Truman Boyes
wrote: Hi all, I need to provide IP connectivity to an outdoor parking lot for security devices like a camera, and emergency phone and a gate. Does anyone have any suggestions on a wireless bridge and an outdoor rated switch if such exists? How do people provide IP to outdoor locations like

Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-11 Thread Roy
have any suggestions on a wireless bridge and an outdoor rated switch if such exists? How do people provide IP to outdoor locations like a surface parking lot? Thanks, Andrey

Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-11 Thread todd glassey
, Truman On 11/05/2010, at 9:36 AM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote: Hi all, I need to provide IP connectivity to an outdoor parking lot for security devices like a camera, and emergency phone and a gate. Does anyone have any suggestions on a wireless bridge and an outdoor rated switch if such exists

Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-11 Thread Curtis Maurand
On 5/11/2010 9:36 AM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote: Hi all, I need to provide IP connectivity to an outdoor parking lot for security devices like a camera, and emergency phone and a gate. Does anyone have any suggestions on a wireless bridge and an outdoor rated switch if such exists? How do people

Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-11 Thread Shane Short
. On 11/05/2010, at 11:30 PM, Curtis Maurand wrote: On 5/11/2010 9:36 AM, Andrey Khomyakov wrote: Hi all, I need to provide IP connectivity to an outdoor parking lot for security devices like a camera, and emergency phone and a gate. Does anyone have any suggestions on a wireless bridge

Re: Rugged wireless bridge

2010-05-11 Thread Paul Bosworth
the manufacturer. Thanks On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 7:36 AM, Andrey Khomyakov khomyakov.and...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I need to provide IP connectivity to an outdoor parking lot for security devices like a camera, and emergency phone and a gate. Does anyone have any suggestions on a wireless bridge

RE: Wireless bridge

2010-04-05 Thread Peter Boone
. They have worked very well through conditions that our last setup would not. Thanks again for the input everyone! Peter -Original Message- From: Peter Boone [mailto:na...@aquillar.com] Sent: June-18-09 9:46 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Wireless bridge OK, from reading all

Re: Wireless bridge

2010-04-05 Thread Bret Clark
Peter Boone wrote: I purchased 2x Ubiquity Bullet2's (2.4 GHz) and utilized our existing antennas. It has been working extremely well, pushing a stable 54 Mbps over the link without issue. Signal strength is consistently -40 dBm +/- 2 dBm, from about -80 dBm before! Total cost included 2x

Re: Wireless bridge

2010-04-05 Thread Mike
No, you are not pushing a stable '54mbps over the link without issue'. More likely, if you cared to look, you are getting somewhere around 30-35mbps, HALF DUPLEX. The '54mbps' advertised on the shiny sales brochure, is a signaling rate and not a measure of thruput. Mike- Bret Clark wrote:

RE: Wireless bridge

2010-04-05 Thread Peter Boone
to tweak the power output. There have actually been more error packets on the wire than in the air (0.01% of LAN packets). Regards, Peter -Original Message- From: Mike [mailto:mike-na...@tiedyenetworks.com] Sent: April-05-10 4:02 PM To: Bret Clark Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Wireless

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-07-03 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Matthew Walster wrote: I'd heartily recommend giving infra-red FSO a go, no Fresnel zone... A nitpick, but there's nothing special about infra-red that makes it not electromagnetic just like microwave. So there's still a Fresnel zone, only smaller in diameter. Also for this kind of link,

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-07-03 Thread Jorge Amodio
Also for this kind of link, 60 GHz gear is often cheaper and easier to deal with, so what I would recommend. I'd also take a look at 60GHz, check http://www.bridgewave.com/, I believe they have some sort of promotion going on for 60/80GHz gear. My .02

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-07-03 Thread Joel Jaeggli
You've got to recall that the genesis of this is dicsussion was the replacement of a pair for open-wrtized linksys wrt-54g routers, which have 30mW 2.4ghz radios being used for an 800meter link... There are a vast continuum (both in terms of performance and cost) of solutions between that and a

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-06-21 Thread Hugh Irvine
Hello - On this same topic does anyone have any experience with the Linksys WAP200E? thanks and regards Hugh On 19 Jun 2009, at 20:19, Bret Clark wrote: Justin Sharp wrote: I didn't read through all of the replies to see if this was suggested, apologies if it was.

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-06-19 Thread Bret Clark
Justin Sharp wrote: I didn't read through all of the replies to see if this was suggested, apologies if it was. http://www.solectek.com/products.php?prod=sw7kpage=feat I implemented a PTP link at about 3 miles using these Solectek radios. I get 40Mbps consistently with TCP traffic and

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Joe Tyson
wrote: Hi NANOG, I'm looking for some equipment recommendations for a wireless bridge between two locations approximately 500-800 meters apart. The current setup for this company has been extremely unstable and slow. I don't have a lot of experience in this area so I was hoping someone

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Chuck Anderson
On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 09:05:56AM -0400, Peter Boone wrote: I'm looking for some equipment recommendations for a wireless bridge between two locations approximately 500-800 meters apart. The current setup for this company has been extremely unstable and slow. I don't have a lot of experience

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Curtis Maurand
and use one as a client. Working in repeater mode will cut your bandwidth in half. --Curtis Peter Boone wrote: Hi NANOG, I'm looking for some equipment recommendations for a wireless bridge between two locations approximately 500-800 meters apart. The current setup for this company has been

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Pair of Ubuquiti power station 2 or 5 bridges, 5 would be preferable, under $200 per end. http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/ps5_datasheet.pdf Peter Boone wrote: Hi NANOG, I'm looking for some equipment recommendations for a wireless bridge between two locations approximately 500-800 meters

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Michael Dillon
(for example, after a good thunderstorm, the wireless link will be down for at least 12 hours, but will fix itself eventually. Sounds like there are trees in the line of sight, and maybe they are getting leafier over the years. The only solution to that is to change the path if it is possible.

RE: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Tim Huffman
Subject: Wireless bridge Hi NANOG, I'm looking for some equipment recommendations for a wireless bridge between two locations approximately 500-800 meters apart. The current setup for this company has been extremely unstable and slow. I don't have a lot of experience in this area so I

RE: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Jason Gurtz
(for example, after a good thunderstorm, the wireless link will be down for at least 12 hours, but will fix itself eventually. Are you sure there's not a moisture problem in the antennae cabling? Get an SWR meter that can handle the 2.4 GHz range and make sure that SWR is very low (approaching

RE: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Peter Boone
From: Michael Dillon [mailto:wavetos...@googlemail.com] (for example, after a good thunderstorm, the wireless link will be down for at least 12 hours, but will fix itself eventually. Sounds like there are trees in the line of sight, and maybe they are getting leafier over the years. The

RE: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Lyndon Nerenberg
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 11:54 -0400, Peter Boone wrote: Oh I know. Luckily it's located in an industrial area just on the outskirts of the city. There isn't a lot of other WiFi (in my opinion); 3-5 total SSIDs spread across 2 of the 3 physical channels (1,6,11) depending on which rooftop you

RE: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Tim Huffman
The line of sight is all clear, no trees. Only one building along the way has a rooftop of similar height, but the antennas are extended far above the roofline. We have used a rifle scope to confirm line of sight is all clear at all angles. Unfortunately, you can't necessarily rely on

RE: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread John van Oppen
- From: Tim Huffman [mailto:t...@bobbroadband.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:27 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Wireless bridge The line of sight is all clear, no trees. Only one building along the way has a rooftop of similar height, but the antennas are extended far above the roofline

RE: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Peter Boone
-Original Message- From: Lyndon Nerenberg [mailto:lyn...@orthanc.ca] Sent: June 18, 2009 12:11 PM To: Peter Boone Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Wireless bridge On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 11:54 -0400, Peter Boone wrote: Oh I know. Luckily it's located in an industrial area just

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Jay Hennigan
Jason Gurtz wrote: Are you sure there's not a moisture problem in the antennae cabling? Get an SWR meter that can handle the 2.4 GHz range and make sure that SWR is very low (approaching 1:1 but certainly less than 2:1). Hook up the meter in-line at the AP. Test this after everything is wet

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Jason Gurtz wrote: Are you sure there's not a moisture problem in the antennae cabling? Get an SWR meter that can handle the 2.4 GHz range and make sure that SWR is very low (approaching 1:1 but certainly less than 2:1). Hook up the meter in-line at the AP. Test this after everything is

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Charles Wyble
looking for some equipment recommendations for a wireless bridge between two locations approximately 500-800 meters apart. The current setup for this company has been extremely unstable and slow. I don't have a lot of experience in this area so I was hoping someone could give me a few pointers

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Charles Wyble
+1 for Ubnt gear! Joel Jaeggli wrote: Pair of Ubuquiti power station 2 or 5 bridges, 5 would be preferable, under $200 per end. http://www.ubnt.com/downloads/ps5_datasheet.pdf Peter Boone wrote:

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Charles Wyble
2.4 and 5GHz license-free Wifi is license free because the frequencies are shared with the ISM (Industrial/Scientific/Medical) services. In an industrial area, competing WiFi is the least of your worries. These frequencies are also used by industrial grade heating units. Got anyone in the

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Neil Harris
Peter Boone wrote: From: Michael Dillon [mailto:wavetos...@googlemail.com] (for example, after a good thunderstorm, the wireless link will be down for at least 12 hours, but will fix itself eventually. Sounds like there are trees in the line of sight, and maybe they

RE: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Bret Clark
On Thu, 2009-06-18 at 09:34 -0700, John van Oppen wrote: -Original Message- From: Tim Huffman [mailto:t...@bobbroadband.com] Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 9:27 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: RE: Wireless bridge The line of sight is all clear, no trees. Only one building along

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Peter Boone wrote: - Get a unit with radio/antenna integrated, PoE from inside the building (outdoor rated cat5, shielded I assume), Actually shielding doesn't matter so much and it requires that the rj45 connector and socket be similarly sheilded to be effective, the salient points are: uv

Re: Wireless bridge

2009-06-18 Thread Justin Sharp
I didn't read through all of the replies to see if this was suggested, apologies if it was. http://www.solectek.com/products.php?prod=sw7kpage=feat I implemented a PTP link at about 3 miles using these Solectek radios. I get 40Mbps consistently with TCP traffic and ~100Mbps UDP. This PTP link