Re: Your Input Needed: Can ROA Replace LOA? ? Short Survey (7 mins)

2023-11-21 Thread owen--- via NANOG
> On Nov 17, 2023, at 07:02, Tom Beecher wrote: > >> Therefore, Cogent currently does not have and is not member of ARIN. It >> refuses to sign contract with ARIN and currently Cogent is not bound by this >> RUD rules and regulations. >> >> There is one downfall to not being ARIN member,

Re: Your Input Needed: Can ROA Replace LOA? ? Short Survey (7 mins)

2023-11-17 Thread Tom Beecher
> > Therefore, Cogent currently does not have and is not member of ARIN. It > refuses to sign contract with ARIN and currently Cogent is not bound by > this RUD rules and regulations. > > There is one downfall to not being ARIN member, Cogent cannot currently > issue ROAs or RPKIs. They only

Re: Your Input Needed: Can ROA Replace LOA? ? Short Survey (7 mins)

2023-11-17 Thread George Toma
There is IPV4 exhaustion and many ISPs lease IPV4 space from other entities, such as brokers and other providers. One of the biggest IPv4 lessors is Cogent. By Cogent having legacy IP space from IANA which it inherited when it acquired PSInet, Cogent was not required to sign a contract when RIR

Re: Your Input Needed: Can ROA Replace LOA? – Short Survey (7 mins)

2023-11-16 Thread Christopher Hawker
and completed. Regards, Christopher Hawker From: Christopher Morrow Sent: Friday, November 17, 2023 3:18 AM To: Tom Beecher Cc: Christopher Hawker ; nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Your Input Needed: Can ROA Replace LOA? – Short Survey (7 mins) On Thu, Nov 16, 2023

Re: Your Input Needed: Can ROA Replace LOA? – Short Survey (7 mins)

2023-11-16 Thread Brian Knight via NANOG
On 2023-11-15 21:47, Christopher Hawker wrote: Hello everyone, Aftab Siddiqui is currently exploring the possibility of using Route Object Authorisations (ROAs) as a potential replacement to LOAs. Separate to this (and unknowing of Aftab's research), I had started a discussion on the RPKI

Re: Your Input Needed: Can ROA Replace LOA? – Short Survey (7 mins)

2023-11-16 Thread Tom Beecher
> > > In a decade working on the SP side of the world, I worked with prob 20 different upstream carriers. I can only think of one that required LOA to accept prefixes via BGP. Everyone else was via RIR methods, or nothing. There are of course providers out there that do, but not nearly as many

Re: Your Input Needed: Can ROA Replace LOA? – Short Survey (7 mins)

2023-11-16 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 10:22 AM Tom Beecher wrote: >> >> In the service provider industry, its primary use is for advertising address >> resources (IPv4/v6 and ASN) > > > Not really. I would think there are a few uses of LOA in the telco/SP world, at least: 1) 'can I make this

Re: Your Input Needed: Can ROA Replace LOA? – Short Survey (7 mins)

2023-11-16 Thread Tom Beecher
> > In the service provider industry, its primary use is for advertising > address resources (IPv4/v6 and ASN) Not really. On Thu, Nov 16, 2023 at 9:19 AM Christopher Hawker wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Aftab Siddiqui is currently exploring the possibility of using Route > Object

Re: Your Input Needed: Can ROA Replace LOA? – Short Survey (7 mins)

2023-11-16 Thread John Kristoff
On Thu, 16 Nov 2023 03:47:43 + Christopher Hawker wrote: > Aftab Siddiqui is currently exploring the possibility of using Route > Object Authorisations (ROAs) as a potential replacement to LOAs. > Separate to this (and unknowing of Aftab's research), I had started a > discussion on the RPKI

Re: Your Input Needed: Can ROA Replace LOA? – Short Survey (7 mins)

2023-11-16 Thread Niels Bakker
Hi Christopher, No. Why would your survey take an additional 6.5 minutes to fill out? -- Niels. * ch...@thesysadmin.dev (Christopher Hawker) [Thu 16 Nov 2023, 15:20 CET]: Hello everyone, Aftab Siddiqui is currently exploring the possibility of using Route Object Authorisations

Your Input Needed: Can ROA Replace LOA? – Short Survey (7 mins)

2023-11-16 Thread Christopher Hawker
Hello everyone, Aftab Siddiqui is currently exploring the possibility of using Route Object Authorisations (ROAs) as a potential replacement to LOAs. Separate to this (and unknowing of Aftab's research), I had started a discussion on the RPKI Community guild on Discord