Re: are underwater routers a thing?

2022-04-16 Thread Dave Taht
On Sat, Apr 16, 2022 at 1:57 PM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > > On 3/18/22 06:21, Joel Jaeggli wrote: > > > > > The mean depth of the worlds oceans is around ~3700 meters below MSL > > which means most service calls involve deploying to the proximate > > location of the fault, fishing around for a

Re: are underwater routers a thing?

2022-04-16 Thread Mark Tinka
On 3/18/22 06:21, Joel Jaeggli wrote: The mean depth of the worlds oceans is around ~3700 meters below MSL which means most service calls involve deploying to the proximate location of the fault, fishing around for a while and then carefully re-laying  several kilometers of cable on a

Re: are underwater routers a thing?

2022-03-18 Thread Ethan O'Toole
I was reading an article in the Economist about a new fiber route down the Red Sea from Israel and wondered if there were any branches off of those lines and where the routers were for them. The route kind of made it look like it was completely at sea, but it would kind of make sense to leave

Re: are underwater routers a thing?

2022-03-17 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 3/17/22 18:42, Michael Thomas wrote: I was reading an article in the Economist about a new fiber route down the Red Sea from Israel and wondered if there were any branches off of those lines and where the routers were for them. The route kind of made it look like it was completely at sea,

Re: are underwater routers a thing?

2022-03-17 Thread Karl Auer
On Thu, 2022-03-17 at 19:59 -0700, H.Shrikumar wrote: > Schroedinger Routers .. now that's what I want to see. Deflection > routing taken to its logical conclusion. But you can never tell if it > worked or not. Yes, you can. But you can't see if they are *working*. :-) Regards, K. --

Re: are underwater routers a thing?

2022-03-17 Thread H.Shrikumar
t;nanog@nanog.org" > Subject: RE: are underwater routers a thing? > > > > it look like it was completely at sea, but it would kind of make sense > to leave them at sea if you could put a router there. > > > > First thing that comes to mind is power, how would you power them? >

Re: are underwater routers a thing?

2022-03-17 Thread Lady Benjamin Cannon of Glencoe
Surprisingly it is power that primarily limits repeater count in undersea spans. Ie, most available power is going to be eaten up budget wise by the repeaters, leaving none for routers. It’s not terribly clear that a router would substantially benefit things that a ROADM could not also

Re: are underwater routers a thing?

2022-03-17 Thread Christopher Morrow
John's probably seen this but I think it addresses power on cables and branching nodes (which are just optical /roadm devices) https://youtu.be/H9R4tznCNB0 On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 22:40 John Levine wrote: > It appears that Jerry Cloe said: > >-=-=-=-=-=- > > > >it look like it was completely

Re: are underwater routers a thing?

2022-03-17 Thread Justin Streiner
High voltage DC from landing stations to the underwater amps and submarine branching units. jms On Thu, Mar 17, 2022, 22:46 Karl Auer wrote: > On Thu, 2022-03-17 at 21:26 -0500, Jerry Cloe wrote: > > First thing that comes to mind is power, how would you power them? > > Hydroelectricity (or

Re: are underwater routers a thing?

2022-03-17 Thread Karl Auer
On Thu, 2022-03-17 at 21:26 -0500, Jerry Cloe wrote: > First thing that comes to mind is power, how would you power them? Hydroelectricity (or wave energy), *obviously*. Sheesh. :-) Regards, K. -- ~~~ Karl Auer

Re: are underwater routers a thing?

2022-03-17 Thread John Levine
It appears that Jerry Cloe said: >-=-=-=-=-=- > >it look like it was completely at sea, but it would kind of make sense >to leave them at sea if you could put a router there. > >First thing that comes to mind is power, how would you power them? Undersea cables have had power for repeaters since

Re: are underwater routers a thing?

2022-03-17 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
> On Mar 17, 2022, at 9:26 PM, Jerry Cloe wrote: > > > it look like it was completely at sea, but it would kind of make sense > to leave them at sea if you could put a router there. > > First thing that comes to mind is power, how would you power them? Undersea cables absolutely carry

RE: are underwater routers a thing?

2022-03-17 Thread Jerry Cloe
  it look like it was completely at sea, but it would kind of make sense to leave them at sea if you could put a router there.   First thing that comes to mind is power, how would you power them?

are underwater routers a thing?

2022-03-17 Thread Michael Thomas
I was reading an article in the Economist about a new fiber route down the Red Sea from Israel and wondered if there were any branches off of those lines and where the routers were for them. The route kind of made it look like it was completely at sea, but it would kind of make sense to leave