RE: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-10 Thread Dylan Ebner
, Network Engineer Consulting Radiologists, Ltd. -Original Message- From: Andrey Gordon [mailto:andrey.gor...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 1:35 PM To: Nanog Subject: black listing of web traffic Hi list I have a problem that I can't seem to find a solution to yet. My student

black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Andrey Gordon
Hi list I have a problem that I can't seem to find a solution to yet. My student network is being NATted out and anyone who's on that network had troubles accessing random websites. For example, going to www.apple.com or www.facebook.com would work great, but store.apple.com would either not load

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Chris Campbell
I know that cisco either are or have integrated the IronPort reputation service into their IPS devices, maybe a check on www.senderbase.org could help. Chris Campbell - On 9 Feb 2010, at 19:36, Andrey Gordon andrey.gor...@gmail.com wrote: Hi list I have a problem

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Tony Finch
On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Jon Lewis wrote: Other than the Spamhaus DROP list, I've never heard of blacklisting being applied to IP routing. The RBL was originally distributed via BGP. Tony. -- f.anthony.n.finch d...@dotat.at http://dotat.at/ GERMAN BIGHT HUMBER: SOUTHWEST 5 TO 7. MODERATE OR

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Jon Lewis
True...and I was a subscriber, so I should have remembered that...but it was roughly a decade ago and in that form dead most of that time. Irrelevant to this guy's current issue. On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Tony Finch wrote: On Tue, 9 Feb 2010, Jon Lewis wrote: Other than the Spamhaus DROP list,

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Andrey Gordon
Can't find my IP on any of the black lists. Don't have any proxies. Sites that behave poorly are consistent. That is to say that facebook.com, apple.com would always come up without an issue, but cnn.com, forever21.com(i know, don't ask, students), store.apple.com would consistently take forever

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Jim Shankland
Andrey Gordon wrote: Can't find my IP on any of the black lists. Don't have any proxies. Sites that behave poorly are consistent. That is to say that facebook.com, apple.com would always come up without an issue, but cnn.com, forever21.com(i know, don't ask, students), store.apple.com would

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Andrey Gordon
Thx to all the folks replying off the list. The more I trouble shoot the more I'm convinced that it's not the sites that are doing rate-limiting. I went to a website of one of my previous employers (a small company). Chances of them having a fancy reverse proxy with some sort of black list

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Rogelio
Could it be a dns issue? Some sites trying to resolve your ip address and others don't? Sent from my iPhone On Feb 9, 2010, at 4:47 PM, Andrey Gordon andrey.gor...@gmail.com wrote: Can't find my IP on any of the black lists. Don't have any proxies. Sites that behave poorly are

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Andrey Gordon
By changing my outbound IP address to a different one (i suspect effectively resetting sessions) the problem was solved. So, after that I set it back to the original source NAT. And the sites open up just fine still. It really behaves like a NAT table exhaustion, but the firewall only reports

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Andrey Gordon
Thanks to all, The problem seems to be fixed by changing the NAT ip to something else and than back. It does seem much like NAT exhaustion even though the f/w claims only 13K session for two dynamic NATs and about 20 static ones. What I don't get is why there is consistency in opening sites. Why

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Chris Campbell
That's not surprising behaviour on a PaloAlto unit, they are still very young in the market and my colleagues have had issues with NAT and proxy arp in the recent past. Chris Campbell - On 9 Feb 2010, at 22:31, Andrey Gordon andrey.gor...@gmail.com wrote: By changing

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 09 Feb 2010 17:44:01 EST, Andrey Gordon said: It does seem much like NAT exhaustion even though the f/w claims only 13K session for two dynamic NATs and about 20 static ones. What I don't get is why there is consistency in opening sites. Why does facebook open all the time and

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread gordon b slater
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 17:04 -0500, Andrey Gordon wrote: Thx to all the folks replying off the list. The more I trouble shoot the more I'm convinced that it's not the sites that are doing rate-limiting. I went to a website of one of my previous employers (a small company). Chances of them

Re: black listing of web traffic

2010-02-09 Thread gordon b slater
On Tue, 2010-02-09 at 17:44 -0500, Andrey Gordon wrote: What I don't get is why there is consistency in opening sites. Why does facebook open all the time and store.apple.com barely opens all the time. I'd say if it would be NAT exhaustion, they would all behave the same way meaning open and