RE: route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-05 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
The older school of thought was to put all of the edge interfaces into the IGP, and then carry all of the external routes in BGP. I thought people where doing it because IGP converged faster than iBGP and in case of an external link failure the ingress PE was informed via IGP that it has to find

Re: route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-05 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 09:32:52AM +0200, Adam Vitkovsky wrote: I thought people where doing it because IGP converged faster than iBGP and in case of an external link failure the ingress PE was informed via IGP that it has to find an alternate next-hop. Though now with

Re: route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-04 Thread Randy Bush
oops! i have a host directly on the linx on which i can give you shell access

Re: route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-04 Thread Jay Ashworth
3, 2013 7:20:44 PM Subject: Re: route for linx.net in Level3? I noticed it too this morning from a AS3549 customer. Level 3 LG shows no route for 195.66.232.0/22 on North American sites. On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, John Kemp k...@network-services.uoregon.edu wrote: Having trouble

Re: route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-04 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 02:57:11PM -0400, Jay Ashworth wrote: Yes. In the fallout from the Cloudflare attack of last week it was announced that several IXs were going to stop advertising the address space of their peering lan, which properly does not need to be

Re: route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-04 Thread Tom Paseka
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: But hey, this is a good thing because a DDOS caused issues, right? Well, not so much. Even if the exchange does not advertise the exchange LAN, it's probably the case that it is in the IGP (or at least IBGP) of everyone

Re: route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-04 Thread Brian Dickson
Leo Bicknell wrote: Even if the exchange does not advertise the exchange LAN, it's probably the case that it is in the IGP (or at least IBGP) of everyone connected to it, and by extension all of their customers with a default route pointed at them. Actually, that may not be the case, and

Re: route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-04 Thread Joe Abley
On 2013-04-04, at 15:53, Brian Dickson brian.peter.dick...@gmail.com wrote: Leo Bicknell wrote: Even if the exchange does not advertise the exchange LAN, it's probably the case that it is in the IGP (or at least IBGP) of everyone connected to it, I have experience of several networks

RE: route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-04 Thread Adam Vitkovsky
it and have a free transit. Check out: http://www.bcp38.info adam -Original Message- From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bickn...@ufp.org] Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:29 PM To: NANOG Subject: Re: route for linx.net in Level3? In a message written on Thu, Apr 04, 2013 at 02:57:11PM -0400

Re: route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-04 Thread Randy Bush
Even if the exchange does not advertise the exchange LAN, it's probably the case that it is in the IGP (or at least IBGP) of everyone connected to it, yikes! this is quite ill-advised and i don't know anyone who does this, but i think all my competitors should. I have experience of several

Re: route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-04 Thread Paul Ferguson
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:26 PM, Adam Vitkovsky adam.vitkov...@swan.sk wrote: Check out: http://www.bcp38.info Right on. :-) - ferg -- Fergie, a.k.a. Paul Ferguson fergdawgster(at)gmail.com

Re: route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-04 Thread John Kemp
Yeah, you wouldn't think that one should fall out. It is possible that my 195.66.241.146 really should be something sitting within: 195.66.232.0/22. I'll have to talk with some of the LINX folks to understand whether they are intending that 195.66.240.0/22 and 195.66.232.0/22 are treated

Re: route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-04 Thread Tom Paseka
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: Even if the exchange does not advertise the exchange LAN, it's probably the case that it is in the IGP (or at least IBGP) of everyone connected to it, yikes! this is quite ill-advised and i don't know anyone who does this, but

Re: route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-04 Thread Randy Bush
On Thu, Apr 4, 2013 at 1:43 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: Even if the exchange does not advertise the exchange LAN, it's probably the case that it is in the IGP (or at least IBGP) of everyone connected to it, yikes! this is quite ill-advised and i don't know anyone who does this, but

Re: route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-04 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Fri, Apr 05, 2013 at 10:01:34AM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: it's putting such things in one's igp that disgusts me. as joe said, igp is just for the loopbacks and other interfaces it takes to make your ibgp work. While your method is correct for probably 80-90% of the ISP

route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-03 Thread John Kemp
Having trouble reaching route-views.linx.routeviews.org from AS3582. I'm assuming that some folks stopped carrying this particular linx.net address prefix as of this morning. ?!? $ whois -h whois.cymru.com -v 195.66.241.146 AS | IP | BGP Prefix | CC | Registry |

Re: route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-03 Thread Job Snijders
Hi John, On Apr 4, 2013, at 12:52 AM, John Kemp k...@network-services.uoregon.edu wrote: Having trouble reaching route-views.linx.routeviews.org from AS3582. I'm assuming that some folks stopped carrying this particular linx.net address prefix as of this morning. ?!? Indeed LINX has

Re: route for linx.net in Level3?

2013-04-03 Thread Yang Yu
I noticed it too this morning from a AS3549 customer. Level 3 LG shows no route for 195.66.232.0/22 on North American sites. On Wed, Apr 3, 2013 at 6:52 PM, John Kemp k...@network-services.uoregon.edu wrote: Having trouble reaching route-views.linx.routeviews.org from AS3582. I'm assuming