small site multi-homing (related to: Small guys with BGP issues)

2009-11-03 Thread Mike
Small-site multi-homing is one of the great inequities of the Internet and one that can, and should, be solved. I envision an Internet of the future where anyone with any mixture of any type of network connections can achieve, automatically, provider independence and inbound/outbound load

Re: small site multi-homing (related to: Small guys with BGP issues)

2009-11-03 Thread Clue Store
Well you and the rest of these so called dreamers can help with the purchase of my new routers that don't exist yet to support you wanting to multi-home a /29 and have the rest of the Internet world hold all of these said /29's in their tables. Most folks who get a /29's don't care how they get to

Re: small site multi-homing (related to: Small guys with BGP issues)

2009-11-03 Thread Dave Pooser
If 500 companies are currently announcing /24s to be heard, but could be moved to /29s, then you still have 500 route announcements. You just have a lot less waste. That's my situation here. I've got a /24 with fewer than 10 public IPs active, because I need those 10 hosts to be reachable

Re: small site multi-homing (related to: Small guys with BGP issues)

2009-11-03 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:11:15 PST, Mike said: Small-site multi-homing is one of the great inequities of the Internet and one that can, and should, be solved. I envision an Internet of the future where anyone with any mixture of any type of network connections can achieve,

Re: small site multi-homing (related to: Small guys with BGP issues)

2009-11-03 Thread Brian Raaen
While the idea of seamless routing sounds great, so does world peace... I don't think I will see either in my lifetime. There are some technical hurdles you will have to solve first. 1st how do I solve security (preventing spoofing and other evil deeds done by rouge networks). 2nd how can my

Re: small site multi-homing (related to: Small guys with BGP issues)

2009-11-03 Thread Dave Israel
Clue Store wrote: Well you and the rest of these so called dreamers can help with the purchase of my new routers that don't exist yet to support you wanting to multi-home a /29 and have the rest of the Internet world hold all of these said /29's in their tables. Most folks who get a /29's

Re: small site multi-homing (related to: Small guys with BGP issues)

2009-11-03 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 5414.1257270...@turing-police.cc.vt.edu, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu w rites: On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:11:15 PST, Mike said: Small-site multi-homing is one of the great inequities of the Internet and one that can, and should, be solved. I envision an Internet of the future

Re: small site multi-homing (related to: Small guys with BGP issues)

2009-11-03 Thread Joel Jaeggli
valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: On Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:11:15 PST, Mike said: Small-site multi-homing is one of the great inequities of the Internet and one that can, and should, be solved. I envision an Internet of the future where anyone with any mixture of any type of network

Re: small site multi-homing (related to: Small guys with BGP issues)

2009-11-03 Thread Clue Store
I think you're missing my point and did not read my post completely. First off, BGP was never mentioned in my post. By the time these 'dreamers' want to announce a /29 to multiple providers and have everyone accept them with this new light weight protocol you speak about, there will hopefully be

Re: small site multi-homing (related to: Small guys with BGP issues)

2009-11-03 Thread Dave Israel
Clue Store wrote: I think you're missing my point and did not read my post completely. First off, BGP was never mentioned in my post. Oops, you are correct. Somebody else said BGP. You spoke of the existing table, and so I had BGP in my mind, and I muddled the two together. Mea culpa.