Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-07-01 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
[ back on list ] On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 05:34:53PM -0400, Jerry B. Altzman wrote: There was a HUGE one about that domain name between Nissan Motors and some computer consultant named Nissan (a Hebrew name) in NC. vis http://www.nissan.com/Lawsuit/The_Story.php I don't know exactly how to

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-29 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:24:48AM -0700, Scott Francis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 32 lines which said: what problem is ICANN trying to solve with this proposal? What about the current system that's broken, does this new system fix? ICANN is simply responding to demand. Some

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-28 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 10:24:48AM -0700, Scott Francis wrote: more to the point ... what problem is ICANN trying to solve with this proposal? Oh, that's quite straightforward: insufficient registrar revenue. ---Rsk

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-28 Thread David Conrad
On Jun 27, 2008, at 6:11 PM, Jean-François Mezei wrote: But my uneducated opinion is that this current project appears to let the .TLD loose and this will result in top level domains being meaningless, without any trust. Given the complexity of the new gTLD process, I think it safe to say

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-28 Thread David Conrad
On Jun 27, 2008, at 8:59 PM, WWWhatsup wrote: David Conrad wrote: With that said, personally, I agree that more attention should be spent on the welfare of the registrants. Unfortunately, given I work for ICANN, my providing comments in the RAA public consultation along those lines would be a

RE: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-28 Thread Frank Bulk - iNAME
One way to provide protection is too allow those who have the domain portion of any domain.(com|net|org|...) to have first dibs for the domain of any new gTLD. i.e. if nanog.org, nanog.com, nanog.net, etc. would have first dibs on nanog.thisisgreatstuff. Or is that too simplistic and fraught

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-27 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jun 27, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Bill Nash wrote: On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Scott Francis wrote: perhaps somebody with more insight can explain the rationale to me (DRC?) - is there a purpose served here aside from corporate/legal interests? It strikes me as fomenting another gold rush. The notion

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-27 Thread Phil Regnauld
David Conrad (drc) writes: Other folks believe that anything that reduces the effective monopoly VeriSign has (through .COM and .NET) would be a good thing. This view holds that by increasing the number of top-level domains, you increase the opportunities for consumer (that is, domain

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-27 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 12:23:28PM -0700, Scott Francis wrote: that's exactly my point! it's _not_ reliable, but it's the behavior that the average user has come to expect. If we can't even guarantee reliability with the small handful of TLDs currently in use, when we start introducing

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-27 Thread David Conrad
On Jun 27, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Bill Nash wrote: I'd rather see ICANN spend time on current problems instead of making new ones. Out of curiosity, what are the problems you feel ICANN should be spending its time on? Regards, -drc

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-27 Thread David Conrad
On Jun 27, 2008, at 11:58 AM, Phil Regnauld wrote: The process ensures that too few new TLDs will be created for it being a threat to VeriSign This remains to be seen, at least from my perspective. I have no idea how many TLDs are going to make it through the gauntlet or

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-27 Thread David Conrad
On Jun 27, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Scott Francis wrote: If we can't even guarantee reliability with the small handful of TLDs currently in use, when we start introducing arbitrary new ones to anybody that can pay, I'm concerned that it's going to make user support even more of a headache I might

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-27 Thread Scott Francis
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 1:49 PM, David Conrad [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Jun 27, 2008, at 12:23 PM, Scott Francis wrote: If we can't even guarantee reliability with the small handful of TLDs currently in use, when we start introducing arbitrary new ones to anybody that can pay, I'm

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-27 Thread Roland Perry
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Bill Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes I agree with Scott, I'd rather see ICANN spend time on current problems instead of making new ones. Did you express that opinion to the Paris meeting? [Not an attack on you specifically, but as this process has been ongoing for

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-27 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008 17:04:19 EDT, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jean-Fran=E7ois_Mezei?= said: Say I am a pastry chef, and I pay $40 per year for pastry.com, I got it because I signed up early and now cherish my domain name. I am a small business. But now, some rich guy can come in and bid for .pastry

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-27 Thread David Conrad
On Jun 27, 2008, at 2:02 PM, Scott Francis wrote: what little assurance we have that e.g. bankofamerica.com is the legitimate (or should I say, _a_ legitimate) site for the financial institution of the same name becomes less certain when we have e.g. bank.of.america, www.bankofamerica.bank,

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-27 Thread Bill Nash
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, David Conrad wrote: On Jun 27, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Bill Nash wrote: I'd rather see ICANN spend time on current problems instead of making new ones. Out of curiosity, what are the problems you feel ICANN should be spending its time on? For starters, has Verisign ever

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-27 Thread Bill Nash
On Fri, 27 Jun 2008, Bill Nash wrote: Except for domain registrars, who are only really a registrar when they make a mistake that could cost your entire commercial enterprise. Edit: s/when/until/ Beer:30. - billn

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-27 Thread David Conrad
On Jun 27, 2008, at 3:30 PM, Bill Nash wrote: On Jun 27, 2008, at 10:57 AM, Bill Nash wrote: Out of curiosity, what are the problems you feel ICANN should be spending its time on? For starters, has Verisign ever been sanctioned by ICANN for it's business practices, You mean like

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-27 Thread Jean-François Mezei
While doing the groceries, I got to think about this issue. There have been complaints in the past about difficulty in getting new legitimate TLDs approved by ICANN. (image of ICANN being too USA centric etc etc etc). So I understand a move towards a more documented and logical process to get

Re: what problem are we solving? (was Re: ICANN opens up Pandora's Box of new TLDs)

2008-06-27 Thread WWWhatsup
David Conrad wrote: With that said, personally, I agree that more attention should be spent on the welfare of the registrants. Unfortunately, given I work for ICANN, my providing comments in the RAA public consultation along those lines would be a bit ... awkward. Would you agree with