Re: Access to the IPv4 net for IPv6-only systems, was: Re: WG Action: Conclusion of IP Version 6 (ipv6)

2007-10-02 Thread Daniel Senie
At 09:13 AM 10/2/2007, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 2-okt-2007, at 15:05, Adrian Chadd wrote: Please explain how you plan on getting rid of those protocol-aware plugins when IPv6 is widely deployed in environments with -stateful firewalls-. You just open up a hole in the firewall where

Re: Creating demand for IPv6

2007-10-02 Thread William Herrin
On 10/2/07, Jon Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 2 Oct 2007, William Herrin wrote: At the customer level, #1 has been thoroughly mitigated by NAT, eliminating demand. Indeed, the lack of IPv6 NAT creates a negative demand: folks used to NAT don't want to give it up. At the internet

Rudimentary IPv6 Progress Report Page

2007-10-02 Thread Mike Leber
I've been messing around with parsing MRT format IPv6 BGP tables and saw Randy's posts about deployment progress (or lack thereof), so I threw together this site: http://bgp.he.net/ipv6-progress-report.cgi It gives a rough estimate of the percentage of: * Networks that run IPv6 (currently

Re: Creating demand for IPv6

2007-10-02 Thread William Herrin
On 10/2/07, Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: During early phase of free pool exhaustion, when you can't deliver more IPv4 addresses to your customers you lose the customer to a hosting provider who still has addresses left. So sorry. Those will be some nasty years. Unless you're