Re: Best utilizing fat long pipes and large file transfer

2008-06-13 Thread Michal Krsek
Hi Sean, from thursday, we have copied some ~300 GB packages from Prague to San Diego (~200 ms delay, 10 GE flat ethernet end machines connected via 1GE) files using RBUDP which worked great. Each scenario needs some planning. You have to answer several questions: 1) What is the performance

Re: Spamhaus down?

2008-06-13 Thread Steve Linford
On 12 Jun 2008, at 20:55, Raymond L. Corbin wrote: Something going on with SpamHaus site/ dnsbl servers? spamhaus.org1 SOA server: need.to.know.only 259200s email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] serial: 2008060901 refresh:

BGP Update Report

2008-06-13 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 12-May-08 -to- 12-Jun-08 (32 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS2.0 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS15169 301131 4.1%2264.1 -- GOOGLE - Google Inc. 2 - AS4538 120238 1.6%

The Cidr Report

2008-06-13 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jun 13 21:14:59 2008 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

Re: Spamhaus down?

2008-06-13 Thread Matthew Black
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:02:58 + Steve Linford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12 Jun 2008, at 20:55, Raymond L. Corbin wrote: Something going on with SpamHaus site/ dnsbl servers? We get a spamhaus data feed of PBL, SBL, and XBL and have not seen any problems recently. matthew black

BRAS Configuration backup and trace feature segment changes

2008-06-13 Thread Joe Shen
hi, I'm looking for tools which could backup BRAS and router configuration automatically, while monitoring special configuration changes. RANCID seems to be able to backup whold configuration, but it seems it could not monitor special feature configuration segment changes ( e.g. changes

Re: Spamhaus down?

2008-06-13 Thread Steve Linford
On 13 Jun 2008, at 16:35, Matthew Black wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 08:02:58 + Steve Linford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 12 Jun 2008, at 20:55, Raymond L. Corbin wrote: Something going on with SpamHaus site/ dnsbl servers? We get a spamhaus data feed of PBL, SBL, and XBL and have not

RE: BRAS Configuration backup and trace feature segment changes

2008-06-13 Thread Paul Stewart
We're using Cirrus from Solarwinds for this works pretty good (at least since they brough out the latest patch a few months ago) It does full config backup but will only backup changed configs - also sends a daily email to us with any changes made to routers etc also daily report

Re: Best utilizing fat long pipes and large file transfer

2008-06-13 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: From: Robert E. Seastrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 21:15:49 -0400 Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and for those of us who are addicted to simple rsync, or whatever over ssh, you should be aware of the really bad openssh

Re: Best utilizing fat long pipes and large file transfer

2008-06-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:26:56 -0400 From: Robert Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 06:37 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote: I'm looking for input on the best practices for sending large files over a long fat pipe between facilities (gigabit private circuit, ~20ms RTT). I'd like to avoid modifying TCP

Re: Best utilizing fat long pipes and large file transfer

2008-06-13 Thread Sean Knox
Many thanks for great replies on and off-list. The suggestions basically ranged from these options: 1. tune TCP on all hosts you wish to transfer between 2. create tuned TCP proxies and transfer through those hosts 3. setup a socat (netcat++) proxy and send through this host 4. use an

Weekly Routing Table Report

2008-06-13 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For historical data, please see http://thyme.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith [EMAIL

Re: DNS problems to RoadRunner - tcp vs udp

2008-06-13 Thread Jon Kibler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Price wrote: SNIP From what I have read, public DNS servers should support both UDP and TCP queries. TCP queries are often used when a UDP query fails, or if the answer is over a certain length. UDP is used for queries. TCP is used for

Re: DNS problems to RoadRunner - tcp vs udp

2008-06-13 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:14:55 EDT, Jon Kibler said: UDP is used for queries. TCP is used for zone transfers. It's also sometimes used if a reply doesn't fit in the 512 bytes for a UDP answer and EDNS0 isn't in effect. You get a truncated UDP packet back and re-ask the query over TCP.

Re: DNS problems to RoadRunner - tcp vs udp

2008-06-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:14:55 -0400 From: Jon Kibler [EMAIL PROTECTED] -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Price wrote: SNIP From what I have read, public DNS servers should support both UDP and TCP queries. TCP queries are often used when a UDP query fails, or if

Re: Best utilizing fat long pipes and large file transfer

2008-06-13 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 12:40:48 -0400 From: Robert Boyle [EMAIL PROTECTED] At 12:01 PM 6/13/2008, Kevin Oberman wrote: Clearly you have failed to try very hard or to check into what others have done. We routinely move data at MUCH higher rates over TCP at latencies over 50 ms. one way (100

Re: DNS problems to RoadRunner - tcp vs udp

2008-06-13 Thread Bill Owens
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 02:14:55PM -0400, Jon Kibler wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Price wrote: SNIP From what I have read, public DNS servers should support both UDP and TCP queries. TCP queries are often used when a UDP query fails, or if the answer is

Re: DNS problems to RoadRunner - tcp vs udp

2008-06-13 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
Sorry to abuse the list, but aset.com seems to have some mail blocking issues: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (reason: 551 5.7.1 Message undeliverable. Please see: http://bounce.trustem.net/edu.php?id=m5DIJA6U012003.0.1... not accept email from DHCP connections with an academic institution supplied

Re: DNS problems to RoadRunner - tcp vs udp

2008-06-13 Thread Jon Kibler
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kevin Oberman wrote: If it does not, you should be very concerned. The RFCs (several, but I'll point first to good old 1122) allow either TCP or UDP to be used for any operation that will fit in a 512 byte transfer. (EDNS0 allows larger UDP.)

Re: DNS problems to RoadRunner - tcp vs udp

2008-06-13 Thread John Kristoff
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 14:14:55 -0400 Jon Kibler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TCP is used for zone transfers. If my server responded to TCP queries from anyone other than a secondary server, I would be VERY concerned. I wouldn't be unless it looked like a DDoS - and it might for some that are seeing

.255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread David Hubbard
I remember back in the day of old hardware and operating systems we'd intentionally avoid using .255 IP addresses for anything even when the netmask on our side would have made it fine, so I just thought I'd try it out for kicks today. From two of four ISP's it worked fine, from Verizon FIOS and

RE: DNS problems to RoadRunner - tcp vs udp

2008-06-13 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
First: if you don't allow TCP queries, then you're going to break lots of recent applications for DNS. Second: unless your server and resolver support EDNS0, there is no way to increase the size of a UDP response, and even then, it's not large enough for many applications (ENUM, TXT, APL, etc.).

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:08:47 EDT, David Hubbard said: I remember back in the day of old hardware and operating systems we'd intentionally avoid using .255 IP addresses for anything even when the netmask on our side would have made it fine, so I just thought I'd try it out for kicks today.

Re: DNS problems to RoadRunner - tcp vs udp

2008-06-13 Thread Justin Shore
Jon Kibler wrote: Various hardening documents for Cisco routers specify the best practices are to only allow 53/tcp connections to/from secondary name servers. Plus, from all I can tell, Cisco's 'ip inspect dns' CBAC appears to only handle UDP data connections and anything TCP would be denied.

Re: DNS problems to RoadRunner - tcp vs udp

2008-06-13 Thread Justin Shore
Justin Shore wrote: Jon Kibler wrote: Various hardening documents for Cisco routers specify the best practices are to only allow 53/tcp connections to/from secondary name servers. Plus, from all I can tell, Cisco's 'ip inspect dns' CBAC appears to only handle UDP data connections and anything

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 3:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:08:47 EDT, David Hubbard said: I remember back in the day of old hardware and operating systems we'd intentionally avoid using .255 IP addresses for anything even when the netmask on our side would have made it

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread David Andersen
On Jun 13, 2008, at 4:11 PM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 3:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 15:08:47 EDT, David Hubbard said: I remember back in the day of old hardware and operating systems we'd intentionally avoid using .255 IP addresses for

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Kameron Gasso
Christopher Morrow wrote: go-go-actiontec (vol sends those out, god do they suck...) Crappy CPE's are exactly why we don't hand out .0 and .255 addresses in our DHCP pools. :( -- Kameron Gasso | Senior Systems Administrator | visp.net Direct: 541-955-6903 | Fax: 541-471-0821

Re: Best utilizing fat long pipes and large file transfer

2008-06-13 Thread Stuart Henderson
On 2008-06-12, Kevin Oberman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The idea is to use tuned proxies that are close to the source and destination and are optimized for the delay. OpenBSD has relayd(8), a versatile tool which can be used here. There is support for proxying TCP connections. These can be

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Peter Dambier
I have had a look into the manuals of my ISP's routers. Those boxes can think in /24 only. The split whatever you have down to several /24 and reserve both .0 and .255 in each of them. I have seen both .0 and .255 in the WLAN behind NAT working but you have to ifconfig the interface via telnet.

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Mike Lewinski
David Hubbard wrote: I remember back in the day of old hardware and operating systems we'd intentionally avoid using .255 IP addresses for anything even when the netmask on our side would have made it fine, so I just thought I'd try it out for kicks today. From two of four ISP's it worked fine,

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Mike Lewinski
Mike Lewinski wrote: The TCP/IP stack in Windows XP is broken in this regard, possibly in Vista as well, though I've yet to have the displeasure of finding out. A co-worker confirms that his Vista SP1 can access our .255 router via SSH.

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread William Allen Simpson
Mike Lewinski wrote: The TCP/IP stack in Windows XP is broken in this regard, possibly in Vista as well, though I've yet to have the displeasure of finding out. A co-worker confirms that his Vista SP1 can access our .255 router via SSH. Aww, that's too bad. I've long enjoyed setting

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Jared
Mike Lewinski wrote: David Hubbard wrote: I remember back in the day of old hardware and operating systems we'd intentionally avoid using .255 IP addresses for anything even when the netmask on our side would have made it fine, so I just thought I'd try it out for kicks today. From two of four

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Mark Smith
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:43:36 -0700 Kameron Gasso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher Morrow wrote: go-go-actiontec (vol sends those out, god do they suck...) Crappy CPE's are exactly why we don't hand out .0 and .255 addresses in our DHCP pools. :( -- Kameron Gasso | Senior Systems

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Tim Durack
Funny this discussion surfaced now - I got bitten by this recently. Was using .255 for NAT on a secondary firewall. When the primary failed over, parts of the Internet became unreachable... Tim: On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Mark Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 13:43:36

RE: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread Ian Henderson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 2008-06-14: RFC1519 is 15 years old now. I *still* heard a trainer (in a Cisco class no less) mention class A/B/C in the last few months. Some evil will obviously take generations to fully stamp out. We've faced two issues with .255 and .0: - Using /31 links

Re: .255 addresses still not usable after all these years?

2008-06-13 Thread bmanning
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 03:08:47PM -0400, David Hubbard wrote: I remember back in the day of old hardware and operating systems we'd intentionally avoid using .255 IP addresses for anything even when the netmask on our side would have made it fine, so I just thought I'd try it out for kicks