That is one long protect path. Yikes.
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Otherwise, as Suresh notes, the only way to eliminate human error completely
is
to eliminate the presence of humans in the activity.
and,hence by reference.
Automated config deployment / provisioning.
That's the funniest thing I've read all day... ;-)
A little pessimistic rant ;-)
This self-proclaimed hacker was no more than a script-kiddie with a spot
of luck and half a brain enough to follow social-media-password chains. What
an absolute buffoon. I applaud the English student interviewer for
maintaining his composure while wasting his time with the black hat, who
by the
On Tue, 2010-02-02 at 12:26 +, gb10hkzo-na...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Nothing in the IT / ISP / Telco world is ever going to be perfect,
far too complex with many dependencies. Yes you might play in your
perfect little labs until the cows come home . but there always
has been and
On Mon, 1 Feb 2010 21:21:52 -0500
Chadwick Sorrell mirot...@gmail.com wrote:
Hello NANOG,
Long time listener, first time caller.
A recent organizational change at my company has put someone in charge
who is determined to make things perfect. We are a service provider,
not an enterprise
On 02/02/2010 02:21, Chadwick Sorrell wrote:
This outage, of a high profile customer, triggered upper management to
react by calling a meeting just days after. Put bluntly, we've been
told Human errors are unacceptable, and they will be completely
eliminated. One is too many.
Leaving the
Hi Rashed
This my first time to hear about app-tec company. I'm very happy to see this in
Sudan. In fact We applied for PI address form AfriNIC and our request is
approved. But the current design depends on our ISP (SUDATEL) and we using
their routers. we have a router (One point to access our
Humans make errors.
For your upper management to think they can build a foundation of reliability
on the theory that humans won't make errors is self deceiving.
But that isn't where the story ends. That's where it begins. Your
infrastructure, processes and tools should all be designed
Humans make errors.
For your upper management to think they can build a foundation of reliability
on the theory that humans won't make errors is self deceiving.
But that isn't where the story ends. That's where it begins. Your
infrastructure, processes and tools should all be designed
Hi Stephane
thanks, your scheme is very expressive.And sorry for forgetting to send this
message to my own list (afnog).
regarding the subject the next hop of default route of our customers are ISP
routers then SUIN routers. Is this a normal situation???
Howdy,
Has anyone come up with a reverse DNS 'pattern' that one can employ that will
prevent Senderbase from assigning a poor reputation to an entire /24 because
they saw an email they didn't like from a single IP address?
We're an infrastructure provider, which means that we lease servers,
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Paul Corrao pcor...@voxeo.com wrote:
Humans make errors.
For your upper management to think they can build a foundation of
reliability on the theory that humans won't make errors is self deceiving.
But that isn't where the story ends. That's where it
Has anyone come up with a reverse DNS 'pattern' that one can employ that
will prevent Senderbase from assigning a poor reputation to an entire
/24
because they saw an email they didn't like from a single IP address?
We're an infrastructure provider, which means that we lease servers, etc
to
Since email reputation is now being based on the neighborhood theory you
must do one of the following:
Do one of the following (hopefully #1):
1.) Provide custom reverse DNS for the customer. BCP for SMTP server DNS
is matching forward and reverse DNS. Anything else is suspect...
2.) Set up a
On 2/2/2010 6:26 AM, gb10hkzo-na...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:
Otherwise, as Suresh notes, the only way to eliminate human error
completely is to eliminate the presence of humans in the
activity.
and,hence by reference.
Automated config deployment / provisioning.
That's the funniest thing
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Drew Weaver drew.wea...@thenap.com wrote:
Since email reputation is now being based on the neighborhood theory you
must do one of the following:
Do one of the following (hopefully #1):
1.) Provide custom reverse DNS for the customer. BCP for SMTP server DNS
Greetings,
I am looking for an experienced Freebsd/linux/cisco/juniper person.
If you live in Toronto or the GTA and are interested please drop me a line
offlist.
Cheers,
Carlos.
I think this discussion would be much better on the mailop list, but
the short answer here is real mail servers have real, non-generic names
with matching forward/reverse DNS.
That certainly is true, but if a real mail server that has real, non-generic
names with matching
We have solved 98% of this with standard configurations and templates.
To deviate from this requires management approval/exception approval after an
evaluation of the business risks.
Automation of config building is not too hard, and certainly things like
peer-groups (cisco) and regular groups
On Feb 2, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
We have solved 98% of this with standard configurations and templates.
To deviate from this requires management approval/exception approval
after an evaluation of the business risks.
I would also point Chad to this book: http://bit.ly/cShEIo
Chadwick Sorrell wrote:
This outage, of a high profile customer, triggered upper management to
react by calling a meeting just days after. Put bluntly, we've been
told Human errors are unacceptable, and they will be completely
eliminated. One is too many.
Good, Fast, Cheap - pick any two.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:45 PM, James Downs james.do...@egontech.com wrote:
On Feb 2, 2010, at 9:33 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
We have solved 98% of this with standard configurations and templates.
To deviate from this requires management approval/exception approval after
an evaluation of the
On 2/2/2010 11:33 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
We have solved 98% of this with standard configurations and
templates.
To deviate from this requires management approval/exception approval
after an evaluation of the business risks.
Automation of config building is not too hard, and certainly things
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:04 AM, char...@knownelement.com wrote:
That is one long protect path. Yikes.
There be mountains in the way, with deserts in between, and not a lot
of people to justify diversity or railroads and highways to run it
along.
Not many carriers have more than one fiber route
And in an open desert, back hoes can smell fiber from miles away.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Bill Stewart nonobvi...@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:04 AM, char...@knownelement.com wrote:
That is one long protect path. Yikes.
There be mountains in the way, with deserts in
Hello,
does anybody knows what happend with ipat?
http://nethead.de/index.php/ipat
http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/Tools_and_Resources
Any other suggestion for a good foss ip address management app with
ipv6 support?
I was about to suggest IPPlan, but it is lacking the V6 support. Here is
one I found doing some searching, but I haven't used it myself:
http://sourceforge.net/projects/haci/
-Scott
-Original Message-
From: Pavel Dimow [mailto:paveldi...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 02,
Hello NANOG!
Does anyone know of some strong datacenters in northwestern NJ, or north of
Westchester NY without getting too far away from NYC?
I'm looking for a DR colo solution for a site that is in NYC; this needs to be
at least 50m away from NYC, but I'm trying to keep it not too much
Datapipe has a facility in N.J...
Not sure if they are 50mi from NYC
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Original Message
From: Matt Sprague mspra...@readytechs.com
Date: 2/2/10 2:19 pm
To: nanog@nanog.org nanog@nanog.org
Subj: Datacenter for DR in northwestern NJ/NY
Hello NANOG!
Thanks!
I was looking at them also (I live in that area), but you're right, they're
just inside a 50mi radius.
--
Matt Sprague
Delivery Director
ReadyTechs llc
973.455.0606 x1204
-Original Message-
From: Ray Sanders [mailto:ray.sand...@villagevoicemedia.com]
Sent: Tuesday,
Might be better off going to Philly, its only about an hour and a half away,
and you'll likely have better connectivity options. Most of the big data
centers in NJ are well within the 50 mile requirement (Bergen County,
Hoboken, Newark, Jersey City).
-Scott
-Original Message-
Sungard has some nice datacenters in Philly. I'm in one that's still
being built out, and I haven't regretted it yet.
--Matt
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 4:50 PM, Scott Berkman sc...@sberkman.net wrote:
Might be better off going to Philly, its only about an hour and a half away,
and you'll likely
At 04:41 PM 2/2/2010, Ray Sanders wrote:
Datapipe has a facility in N.J...
I have to admit, I've used the Datapipe facility. I'm underwhelmed.
You might also want to try Albany. Smaller providers, but a few up
there (Time Warner for example) that may work.
Decent infrastructure, a train
Cervalis has facilities in wappingers ny
1.5 hours from NYC
-Original Message-
From: Matt Sprague [mailto:mspra...@readytechs.com]
Sent: Tuesday, February 02, 2010 4:16 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Datacenter for DR in northwestern NJ/NY
Hello NANOG!
Does anyone know of some strong
On Feb 2, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Cerniglia, Brandon wrote:
Cervalis has facilities in wappingers ny
1.5 hours from NYC
Hmm -- where to the fibers run from a facility like that? Are the all homed to
NYC, or are there runs to, say, Albany or Boston?
-Original Message-
From: Matt
Good point...so if the cut is in the middle of nowhere without easy
access...then how the hell did it get cut? Malicious?
Matt Simmons wrote:
And in an open desert, back hoes can smell fiber from miles away.
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 3:27 PM, Bill Stewart [1]nonobvi...@gmail.com wrote:
On
On Feb 2, 2010, at 6:36 PM, Bret Clark wrote:
Good point...so if the cut is in the middle of nowhere without easy
access...then how the hell did it get cut? Malicious?
Some hikers were lost in the desert and tossed down some fiber, waiting for a
backhoe to show up and save them, but it
Cross-country Fibers very often follow existing utility rights of way. So even
in a wide open desert, the places the fibers go are the busy spots.
Sometimes its train tracks, sometimes its gas pipelines, sometimes its
electric, sometimes it’s a road, but very rarely is fiber like that on its
Thanks for all the comments!
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 1:01 PM, JC Dill jcdill.li...@gmail.com wrote:
Chadwick Sorrell wrote:
This outage, of a high profile customer, triggered upper management to
react by calling a meeting just days after. Put bluntly, we've been
told Human errors are
This is actually in my service area.
There is an on-going water construction project along Interstate 8 by the
Kiewit Corporation, and other entities, which are working on the All American
Canal Lining Project.
http://www.iid.com/Water/AllAmericanCanalLiningProject
Automated config deployment / provisioning. And sanity checking
before deployment.
Easy to say, not so easy to do. For instance, that incorrect port was identified
by a number or name. Theoretically, if an automated tool pulls the number/name
from a database and issues the command, then the
Never said it was, and never said foolproof either. Minimizing the
chance of error is what I'm after - and ssh'ing in + hand typing
configs isn't the way to go.
Use a known good template to provision stuff - and automatically
deploy it, and the chances of human error go down quite a lot. Getting
The actual error happened when someone was troubleshooting a turn-up,
where in the past the customer in question has had their ethertype set
wrong. It wasn't a provisioning problem as much as someone
troubleshooting why it didn't come up with the customer. Ironically,
the NOC was on the
If your manager pretends that they can manage humans without a few
well-worn human factor books on their shelf, quit.
David
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 5:36 PM, Michael Dillon
wavetos...@googlemail.com wrote:
The actual error happened when someone was troubleshooting a turn-up,
where in
On Feb 2, 2010, at 8:36 PM, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Never said it was, and never said foolproof either. Minimizing the
chance of error is what I'm after - and ssh'ing in + hand typing
configs isn't the way to go.
Use a known good template to provision stuff - and automatically
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