Re: AS6453 (Tata/Teleglobe/Globe Internet?) - various US ISP Outage?

2010-11-22 Thread sthaug
Anyone else seeing problems reaching ATT/XO possibly others from AS6453 in Europe? Seems to work okay from Norway: traceroute to 140.239.191.10 (140.239.191.10), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 ge0-0-0-3000.br1.fn3.no.catchbone.net (193.75.4.1) 0.165 ms 0.179 ms 0.235 ms 2

Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-22 Thread Sergey Voropaev
Does any one know the NMS (network management software) which can do the fallowing: 1. Monitor on Cisco Routers/Switches interface utilization every 5-10 seconds and send e-mail alarm when utilization low or high of predefined thresholds. 2. Collect net-flow statistics (at least src/dst) with

Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-22 Thread sthaug
Does any one know the NMS (network management software) which can do the fallowing: 1. Monitor on Cisco Routers/Switches interface utilization every 5-10 seconds and send e-mail alarm when utilization low or high of predefined thresholds. 2. Collect net-flow statistics (at least src/dst)

XO/AS2828 - Cogent/AS174 blackholing

2010-11-22 Thread Tore Anderson
Hi list, I'm seeing blackholing on my inbound traffic from XO and their downstreams (notably CNN) via Cogent. Prepending towards Cogent changes my inbound path from 2828 174 39029 to 2828 3549 3292 39029 and it works fine, even though the outbound path is still via Cogent: t...@cr3 traceroute

Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-22 Thread Sergey Voropaev
Steinar, I'm sure that router updates its counter more often than 5 seconds. On 22 November 2010 12:46, sth...@nethelp.no wrote: Does any one know the NMS (network management software) which can do the fallowing: 1. Monitor on Cisco Routers/Switches interface utilization every 5-10

Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-22 Thread Livio Zanol Puppim
IT depends on the manufacturer. Cisco can updates OIDs even on 1 second time basis (maybe less?). A long time ago I've made an real time monitor to troubleshooting problems at the WAN. IT was not a NMS, only visual graphs using PHP and RRDtool in one page showing IfOctests, IfDiscards, IfErrors,

Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-22 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 22/11/2010 10:00, Sergey Voropaev wrote: I'm sure that router updates its counter more often than 5 seconds. some do, some don't. For example, sup720 snmp counters are updated every 9 seconds, while the show interface counters are updated every 30 seconds. Nick

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Sat, Nov 20, 2010 at 23:15, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: You seem to be indirectly answering the parent posting in much of what you say. That is fine, I just wanted to point it out. It's a commonly accepted, well-defined convention to save humans effort while not sacrificing

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 16:54, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: Because in my version fd::/8 actually is the same as fd00::/8, which, as you rightly point out, is exactly what a normal human being would naturally expect. Which is against every expectation of anyone who ever learned Arabic

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 23:15, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: In fact, it would look pretty weird to most people if we started writing 951-21-42-33 (or I bet they wouldn't expect that was a zip code in any case). Similarly, if we start placing the separators in arbitrary places in phone

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread Richard Hartmann
Please don't group several emails into one. It breaks threads. And while I could not find anything about this in the NANOG FAQ, it's common netiquette not to do so. On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 23:50, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 11:40 AM, Joel Jaeggli joe...@bogus.com

Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-22 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 22/11/2010 10:47, Livio Zanol Puppim wrote: Good to know. It such a dificult information to find in documentation. I should have wrapped up that statement with a ymmv. Because probably, your mileage will vary. Nick

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread Jeff Aitken
[ Meant to send this to the list and not directly to Richard. ] On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 03:07:40AM +0100, Richard Hartmann wrote: If any of you have any additional suggestions, you are more than welcome to share them. I heard hexquad somewhere awhile back and have been using it since...

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread Richard Hartmann
For the sake of completeness, the relevant part of what I answered privately can be found below. On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 13:22, Jeff Aitken jait...@aitken.com wrote: [ Meant to send this to the list and not directly to Richard. ] On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 03:07:40AM +0100, Richard Hartmann

Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-22 Thread Brandon Ross
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010, Nick Hilliard wrote: some do, some don't. For example, sup720 snmp counters are updated every 9 seconds, while the show interface counters are updated every 30 seconds. That is most certainly NOT true. The 'show interface' counters update at least once a second.

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 6:40 AM, Richard Hartmann richih.mailingl...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 16:54, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: Because in my version fd::/8 actually is the same as fd00::/8, which, as you rightly point out, is exactly what a normal human being would

Auditing a network to add Voice

2010-11-22 Thread Kasper Adel
Hi, My customer would like to add VoIP over their network and they asked us for an audit. the result of the audit would be simply you guys are ready for it Breaking it down [high level] for me sounds like : (suggestions are more than welcomed) : 1) Looking at hardware computation finite

Re: Auditing a network to add Voice

2010-11-22 Thread Kasper Adel
Sorry i forgot to add more detail. We are not looking for IP Telephony type of voice but RTP from Media Gateways. Cheers, Kim On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:59 PM, Kasper Adel karim.a...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, My customer would like to add VoIP over their network and they asked us for an audit.

Re: AS6453 (Tata/Teleglobe/Globe Internet?) - various US ISP Outage?

2010-11-22 Thread Owen DeLong
Yes, I was able to reach Tata (they actually have done something very good I encourage others to follow, see below) and they resolved the issue within 15 minutes of my phone call. What Tata has done with as6453.net is that there is a website there which provides NOC contact info and the phone

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread Owen DeLong
I don't see a problem with people not assigning customers /56s so long as they go in the correct direction and give /48s and not /60s or /64s. Many ISPs will end up handing their customers /64, /62 or other less-than-ideal prefixes. As soon as a customer needs to subnet their /64, the

Re: Blocking International DNS

2010-11-22 Thread Joe Abley
On 2010-11-22, at 00:00, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: Indeed, offshore resolvers, offshore DNS infrastructure and the progressive's futile attempts at interference with free markets is once again thwarted. We all know that U.S. law helps keep the internet safe /sarcasm You don't think (i) a service

Re: Blocking International DNS

2010-11-22 Thread Curtis Maurand
On 11/22/2010 10:25 AM, Joe Abley wrote: You don't think (i) a service provider, as that term is defined in section 512(k)(1) of title 17, United States Code, or other operator of a domain name system server shall take reasonable steps that will prevent a domain name from resolving to that

Re: Blocking International DNS

2010-11-22 Thread Joe Greco
You don't think (i) a service provider, as that term is defined in section 512(k)(1) of = title 17, United States Code, or other operator of a domain name system = server shall take reasonable steps that will prevent a domain name from = resolving to that domain name=92s Internet protocol

starwars.com subdomain hijacked?

2010-11-22 Thread Matt Disuko
It seems the subdomain shop.starwars.com is being redirected. Anybody else seeing this?

Re: Blocking International DNS

2010-11-22 Thread Joe Abley
On 2010-11-22, at 10:43, Joe Greco wrote: It's funny, isn't it, didn't we just finish convincing the government of the need for DNSSEC, making the DNS system more resistant to some forms of tampering? I guess if the manner of the interception was to send back SERVFAIL to DNS clients whose

Re: Auditing a network to add Voice

2010-11-22 Thread Bret Clark
Iperf can be used to measure jitter and delay as well as simulate a quasi VoIP call. You can also use mtr under Linux which provides jitter and delay measurements from one point to another point. A g.729 call (lower quality) takes about ~40kbps and a g.711 (high quality) used about ~100Kbps of

Re: Auditing a network to add Voice

2010-11-22 Thread Bret Clark
Most VoIP solutions are RTP whether internal or via SIP solution from a service provider. On 11/22/2010 10:04 AM, Kasper Adel wrote: Sorry i forgot to add more detail. We are not looking for IP Telephony type of voice but RTP from Media Gateways. Cheers, Kim On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 4:59 PM,

Re: Blocking International DNS

2010-11-22 Thread Owen DeLong
On Nov 22, 2010, at 7:25 AM, Joe Abley wrote: On 2010-11-22, at 00:00, Jeffrey Lyon wrote: Indeed, offshore resolvers, offshore DNS infrastructure and the progressive's futile attempts at interference with free markets is once again thwarted. We all know that U.S. law helps keep the

Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-22 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 22/11/2010 14:02, Brandon Ross wrote: That is most certainly NOT true. You're correct that I'm mistaken. It's 9 second updates for both snmp and the interface (packets / bytes) counters, at least on 6700 cards / SXI. Are you getting different measurements? Nick

Re: Blocking International DNS

2010-11-22 Thread Joe Abley
On 2010-11-22, at 10:35, Curtis Maurand wrote: And where would the list that we need to block be gotten from? bittorrent? :-)

Re: Auditing a network to add Voice

2010-11-22 Thread Kasper Adel
Hi Bret, These guys are not looking for measuring traffic generated by a tool, they want to measure what they have running now (not only Voice). I am not sue if measuring what they have or generating traffic and measuring it is the same thing. what do u think? thanks, Kim On Mon, Nov 22, 2010

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 15:07, William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: Trimming zeros on both the left and the right, as the correctly written IPv6 notation 1::/16 would have us do, is confusing. It's like writing one million and one tenth as 1,,.1 instead of 1,000,000.1. No, there are simply

RE: starwars.com subdomain hijacked?

2010-11-22 Thread Gavin Pearce
It seems the subdomain shop.starwars.com is being redirected. Anybody else seeing this? HTML served up looks official, albeit different NS servers and IP Range from main site. Resolves to 209.20.19.60 (shop.starwars.novator2.com.). Couldn't tell you if that's where it's meant to go mind...

Re: Auditing a network to add Voice

2010-11-22 Thread Bret Clark
I'm not sure if Wireshark will let you do this...at least with TCP, we do use Wireshark to analyze RTP traffic which provides jitter/loss data, maybe a vendor provided LAN analyzer would provide this information I still think you're better of on using some type of tools and do the measurement

Re: starwars.com subdomain hijacked?

2010-11-22 Thread Jaren Angerbauer
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 8:46 AM, Matt Disuko gourmetci...@hotmail.com wrote: It seems the subdomain shop.starwars.com is being redirected. Anybody else seeing this? Redirected to where? Looks like it is working as expected...? --Jaren

Re: Auditing a network to add Voice

2010-11-22 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 22 Nov 2010 16:59:54 +0200, Kasper Adel said: Breaking it down [high level] for me sounds like : (suggestions are more than welcomed) : 1) Looking at hardware computation finite resources (cpu, memory...etc) 2) Looking at available bandwidth 3) QoS policy 4) High Availability and

RE: starwars.com subdomain hijacked?

2010-11-22 Thread Matt Disuko
I'm surprised by the sequence of events here.. domain novator2.com is registered with DomainsAtCost.ca. domain novator2.com expires... gets picked up by the administrators of yourdomainhasexpired.com - Rebel.com? 1550507.ca? ;; ANSWER SECTION: shop.starwars.com. 1655IN CNAME

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread Daniel Hagerty
Richard Hartmann richih.mailingl...@gmail.com writes: I will add quad to -03 anyway. If you get a few +1 on hexquad, I am against adding that, as well. Quad is a standard term for 64 bit integer in C/C++. For example: $ grep -c quad /usr/src/sys/netinet6/*|awk -F: '{tot+=$2} END{print

RE: Auditing a network to add Voice

2010-11-22 Thread Holmes,David A
One of the best active measurement products is the BRIX monitoring system, now owned by EXFO. Active measurement systems have the capability of sending out emulated application probes (for instance G.711 calls), or alternatively simple ping tests to gather round trip times (RTT), jitter, and

Re: starwars.com subdomain hijacked?

2010-11-22 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/22/10 9:05 AM, Ken Chase wrote: That phishers manage to fake sites that look wrong is also beyond me, what's so hard about 'save page as'? Probably because there's no need to try that hard - they'll catch enough people no matter how crappy the phish. ~Seth

Re: starwars.com subdomain hijacked?

2010-11-22 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Matt Disuko gourmetci...@hotmail.com wrote: It seems the subdomain shop.starwars.com is being redirected. Anybody else seeing this? The Rebel Alliance managed to hit that site, but the Empire struck back and it's back online again. Rubens

Re: IPv6

2010-11-22 Thread Ray Soucy
We have had Cogent and recently added TWC (not TWT) and have had no problems. We still see the majority of our IPv6 traffic go though the NOX (I2), though. On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 4:39 PM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Curious as to who is running IPv6 with TW Telecom or Cogent. I'm wanting

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread Scott Morris
Given that a meal is often comprised of several mouthfuls, wouldn't it stand to reason that the entire address would suffice there? ;) Scott On 11/19/10 11:06 AM, Richard Hartmann wrote: On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 14:14, Scott Morris s...@emanon.com wrote: If 8 bits is a byte, then 16 bits

switch about routing p

2010-11-22 Thread Deric Kwok
Hi I read switch that supports PIM / ESRP / VRRP What are they? Thank you

Re: switch about routing p

2010-11-22 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 11/22/10 10:34 AM, Deric Kwok wrote: Hi I read switch that supports PIM / ESRP / VRRP I assume you don't mean extreme standby routing protocol, if you do then you have your answer, you future is purple. What are they? Most decent layer3 switch platforms will support PIM/VRRP. Thank

non operational question related to IP

2010-11-22 Thread Greg Whynott
i was pinging a host from a windows machine and made a typo which seemed harmless. the end result was it interpreted my input differently than what I had intended. thinking this was a m$ issue I quickly took the opportunity to poke fun at windows as the senior m$ admin was near by. look at

Re: non operational question related to IP

2010-11-22 Thread David Coulson
Prefixing the octet with 0 makes it interpret it as octal, not decimal. Pretty typical on a UNIX system. On 11/22/2010 2:52 PM, Greg Whynott wrote: i was pinging a host from a windows machine and made a typo which seemed harmless. the end result was it interpreted my input differently than

RE: non operational question related to IP

2010-11-22 Thread Matlock, Kenneth L
'Octal' (Base-8) :) The leading '0' is telling the box to interpret it as octal instead of decimal or hex. Ken Matlock Network Analyst Exempla Healthcare (303) 467-4671 matlo...@exempla.org -Original Message- From: Greg Whynott [mailto:greg.whyn...@oicr.on.ca] Sent: Monday, November

Re: non operational question related to IP

2010-11-22 Thread James Downs
On Nov 22, 2010, at 11:52 AM, Greg Whynott wrote: anyone happen to know how the OS's are interpreting the 010? doesn't appear work out in base[2-10] (1010,101,22,20,14,13,12,11,10,A) Looks base 8 to me. -j

Re: non operational question related to IP

2010-11-22 Thread Steven Bellovin
On Nov 22, 2010, at 2:52 52PM, Greg Whynott wrote: i was pinging a host from a windows machine and made a typo which seemed harmless. the end result was it interpreted my input differently than what I had intended. thinking this was a m$ issue I quickly took the opportunity to poke

Re: non operational question related to IP

2010-11-22 Thread Greg Whynott
thanks guys. I should of paid more attention in school. interesting cisco understands what we meant. 8) -g On Nov 22, 2010, at 2:56 PM, Matlock, Kenneth L wrote: 'Octal' (Base-8) :) The leading '0' is telling the box to interpret it as octal instead of decimal or hex. Ken Matlock

id.apple.com

2010-11-22 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
Would a mail-op from id.apple.com please contact me off-list?

Re: IPv6

2010-11-22 Thread John Gammons
On Nov 21, 2010, at 4:31 PM, Cameron Byrne wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 3:17 PM, Cameron Byrne cb.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 2:44 PM, Mike Tancsa m...@sentex.net wrote: On 11/18/2010 5:14 PM, Lee Riemer wrote: Try tracerouting to 2001:500:4:13::81 (www.arin.net) or

Re: non operational question related to IP

2010-11-22 Thread Michael Brown
On 11/22/2010 02:58 PM, Steven Bellovin wrote: 010 is how C represents an octal number. This one is known in decimal as 8. Obviously, what Greg meant to type was: $ ping 012.0xA.10.1 PING 012.0xA.10.1 (10.10.10.1) 56(84) bytes of data. M. -- Michael Brown | The true sysadmin does

Re: XO/AS2828 - Cogent/AS174 blackholing

2010-11-22 Thread Tore Anderson
Problem solved. The culprit turned out to be a Cogent router in Dallas. Many thanks to Jason Beasley from XO for helping out with troubleshooting and escalating the issue. * Tore Anderson I'm seeing blackholing on my inbound traffic from XO and their downstreams (notably CNN) via Cogent.

RE: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-22 Thread Frank Bulk - iName.com
Well, on the RSP720, the show interface byte counters are definitely not every second, though I can't say it's been as long as 9 seconds. I typically look at them while making changes and they definitely stand still for a few seconds. Frank -Original Message- From: Brandon Ross

Re: non operational question related to IP

2010-11-22 Thread William Herrin
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 3:09 PM, Michael Brown mich...@supermathie.net wrote: On 11/22/2010 02:58 PM, Steven Bellovin wrote: 010 is how C represents an octal number.  This one is known in decimal as 8. Obviously, what Greg meant to type was: $ ping 012.0xA.10.1 PING 012.0xA.10.1 (10.10.10.1)

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 16:23, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: then, the other ISPs will eventually find themselves at a competitive disadvantage as their customers start to ask Why can't I have a /48 like my friend Bob got from provider Z? I kinda implied that, but yes, I should have

Re: non operational question related to IP

2010-11-22 Thread Brian Reichert
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 12:56:00PM -0700, Matlock, Kenneth L wrote: 'Octal' (Base-8) :) The leading '0' is telling the box to interpret it as octal instead of decimal or hex. My guess you're seeing an interface that uses inet_addr() instead of inet_pton(); the latter is used more nowadays at

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 18:33, Daniel Hagerty h...@linnaean.org wrote:    Ambiguating usages like Take the least signifigant quad of that ipv6 address to mean either 16 bits or 64 bits, when it currently is unamibigously 64 bits won't make the lives of C/C++ programmers writing IPv6 code any

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread Lamar Owen
On Friday, November 19, 2010 08:14:52 am Scott Morris wrote: If 8 bits is a byte, then 16 bits should be a mouthful. I thought the Jargon File settled that long ago: 4 bits = nybble, 8 bits = byte, 16 bits = playte, 32-bits = dynner. See http://dictionary.die.net/nybble Since the zeros

Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-22 Thread Tassos Chatzithomaoglou
Does service counters max age help in any way?* *According to Cisco, setting it too low might upset the snmp counters.* * -- Tassos Jon Lewis wrote on 23/11/2010 00:19: On Mon, 22 Nov 2010, Brandon Ross wrote: On Mon, 22 Nov 2010, Nick Hilliard wrote: some do, some don't. For example,

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread Richard Hartmann
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 14:05, Richard Hartmann richih.mailingl...@gmail.com wrote: I will add quad to -03 anyway. If you get a few +1 on hexquad, I am against adding that, as well. Erm. Belated, but I am _not_ against adding etc pp. Richard

Re: non operational question related to IP

2010-11-22 Thread Mark Andrews
See man inet. All numbers supplied as ``parts'' in a `.' notation may be decimal, octal, or hexadecimal, as specified in the C language (i.e., a leading 0x or 0X implies hexadecimal; otherwise, a leading 0 implies octal; other- wise, the number is interpreted as decimal).

Re: Network management software with high detailed traffic report

2010-11-22 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 22/11/2010 22:56, Tassos Chatzithomaoglou wrote: Does service counters max age help in any way?* *According to Cisco, setting it too low might upset the snmp counters.* https://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/ios/fundamentals/command/reference/cf_r1.html#wp1067159 The Usage Guidelines are

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread Robert Bonomi
From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Fri Nov 19 11:05:33 2010 Subject: Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming From: Owen DeLong o...@delong.com Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 08:58:45 -0800 To: Richard Hartmann richih.mailingl...@gmail.com Cc:

Re: Blocking International DNS

2010-11-22 Thread Dobbins, Roland
On Nov 22, 2010, at 10:48 PM, Joe Abley wrote: I guess if the manner of the interception was to send back SERVFAIL to DNS clients whose queries were (in some sense) objectionable, the result would be that the clients were not able to resolve the (in some sense) bad names. Quantifying the

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread Robert Bonomi
From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Fri Nov 19 14:18:02 2010 Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:19:34 -0800 From: Joel Jaeggli joe...@bogus.com To: Owen DeLong o...@delong.com Subject: Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming Cc: bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com,

Re: Blocking International DNS

2010-11-22 Thread Wil Schultz
The more I think about this COICA deal the more I can't even fathom how it could be implemented. If an upstream server won't resolve, what's to stop a network admin from using an offshored DNS server, or even the root servers? Unless we're talking about keeping DNS traffic confined to the

Re: Introducing draft-denog-v6ops-addresspartnaming

2010-11-22 Thread TJ
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 08:14, Scott Morris s...@emanon.com wrote: If 8 bits is a byte, then 16 bits should be a mouthful. ;) Scott If we can't choose mouthful (which for some reason sounds thematically correct), chunk gets my vote. *(Chunk = Maybe not the most technical, but has been

Re: Blocking International DNS

2010-11-22 Thread Joe Sniderman
On 11/22/2010 07:47 PM, Wil Schultz wrote: The more I think about this COICA deal the more I can't even fathom how it could be implemented. If an upstream server won't resolve, what's to stop a network admin from using an offshored DNS server, or even the root servers? The way I read it its

Re: IPv6 6to4 and dns

2010-11-22 Thread Franck Martin
- Original Message - From: Kevin Oberman ober...@es.net To: Franck Martin fra...@genius.com Cc: Jeroen van Aart jer...@mompl.net, NANOG list nanog@nanog.org Sent: Tuesday, 23 November, 2010 12:31:47 PM Subject: Re: IPv6 6to4 and dns Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2010 09:36:28 +1300 (FJST)