No - at least some links were still up. I saw both IPVPNs and leased lines
still working during the event.
aj
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From: Ryan Finnesey ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com
Date: Sat, 5 Feb 2011 23:58:35
To: Fred Bakerf...@cisco.com; Hayden
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From: Jimmy Hess [mailto:mysi...@gmail.com]
The most important thing to ensure usage is recognized is that the
entire address space is announced plus routed,
I don't speak on behalf of a community, but in the past there have
been people reminding the ARIN
The end-to-end model is about If my packet is permitted by policy and
delivered to the
remote host, I expect it to arrive as sent, without unexpected
modifications.
Well, it's about communications integrity being the responsibility of the
endpoint. It
is therefore expected that the network not
sure
From: Lee Howard l...@asgard.org
To: Owen DeLong o...@delong.com; david raistrick dr...@icantclick.org
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Sun, February 6, 2011 2:16:35 PM
Subject: RE: quietly
The end-to-end model is about If my packet is
Which of the big boys are doing it?
Tim
do you have a satellite dish? what are your dish pointing coordinates..we
just need to find out what is going on the air interface ...
From: Ryan Wilkins r...@deadfrog.net
To: Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com
Cc: NANOG nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Fri, February 4,
On 2/5/2011 11:57 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
Rationalising to power of 2 allocations shouldn't result in requiring
256 times the space you were claiming with the 8 bits of shift on
average. A couple of bits will allow that.
I didn't claim 8 bit average (if I accidentally did, my apologies). I
- Original Message -
From: isabel dias isabeldi...@yahoo.com
do you have a satellite dish? what are your dish pointing
coordinates..we
just need to find out what is going on the air interface ...
Well, either iDirect or SCPC...
Cheers,
-- jra
On Feb 5, 2011, at 9:40 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
What's really needed is seperate the routing slot market from the
address allocation market.
Bingo! In fact, having an efficient market for obtaining routing of a
given prefix, combined with IPv6 vast identifier space, could actually
satisfy the
Firewalls merely constrict it. Not that I advocate against the use of
firewalls;
in fact, I think I'm agreeing with you, and extending the argument a little
further,
that we should move from NAT to firewalls, then from stateful firewalls to
secure hosts and network security appliances.
Tim Chown writes:
Which of the big boys are doing it?
Google - although there don't call themselves a web hoster, they can be
used for hosting web sites using services such as Sites or App Engine.
Both support IPv6, either using the opt-in mechanism or by using an
alternate CNAME (ghs46 instead
I ran across this link a while back, it shows, of the top 100k
websites (according to Alexa), which ones are IPv6 enabled:
http://www.atoomnet.net/ipv6_enabled_popular_websites.php?complete_list=true
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Simon Leinen simon.lei...@switch.ch wrote:
Tim Chown writes:
On 2/6/11 8:00 AM, John Curran wrote:
On Feb 5, 2011, at 9:40 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
What's really needed is seperate the routing slot market from the
address allocation market.
Bingo! In fact, having an efficient market for obtaining routing of a
given prefix, combined with IPv6 vast
I have used both softlayer and arpnetworks. Both have v6 by default, but
only softlayer can be considered a big boy... multiple sites. Cloud and
dedicated servers ... softlayer is a class act with v6 added for free
On Feb 6, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
So assuming this operates on a pollution model the victims of routing
table bloat are compensated by the routing table pollutors for the use
of the slots which they have to carry. so I take the marginal cost of
the slots that I need subtract
In article 85d304ba-6c4e-4b86-9717-2adb542b8...@delong.com, Owen
DeLong o...@delong.com writes
Part of the problem is knowing in advance what ISPs will and won't
do. It's all very well saying one shouldn't patronise an ISP that
blocks port 25, for example, but where is that documented before
On 2/6/11 9:32 AM, John Curran wrote:
One hopes that the costs of consuming routing table slots creates
backpressure to discourage needless use, and that the royalities
receive offset the costs of carrying any additional routing table
slots.
Note that our present system lacks both
In article 20110205131510.be13e9b5...@drugs.dv.isc.org, Mark Andrews
ma...@isc.org writes
And when my vendor is Sipura, or Sony[1], how does an individual small
enterprise attract their attention and get the features added?
You return the equipment as not suitable for the advertised purpose
On Feb 6, 2011, at 9:49 AM, Roland Perry wrote:
In article 20110205131510.be13e9b5...@drugs.dv.isc.org, Mark Andrews
ma...@isc.org writes
And when my vendor is Sipura, or Sony[1], how does an individual small
enterprise attract their attention and get the features added?
You return the
- Original Message -
From: Owen DeLong o...@delong.com
I'm pretty sure the PS3 will get resolved through a software update.
Yes, there will be user-visible disruptions in this transition.
No, it can't be 100% magic on the part of the service provider.
It still has to happen.
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 11:15 AM, Joel Jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote:
So assuming this operates on a pollution model the victims of routing
table bloat are compensated by the routing table pollutors for the use
of the slots which they have to carry. so I take the marginal cost of
In this case
Many virtual private server companies (I have 2 BurstNET VPS servers
in Scranton and Los Angeles) will give you a /64 of IPv6 addresses.
This is always an option.
Im not familiar with wpa_supplicant, but you can preface external commands
to execute in ifconfig.* with !
On Feb 6, 2011 1:08 PM, Andrew Ball ab...@students.prairiestate.edu
wrote:
Hello,
I have a NetBSD host that I would like to
connect to an existing wireless LAN using a rum(4) interface
On Feb 6, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
If you advertise a product as internet access, then, providing limited or
partial access
to the internet does not fulfill the terms of the contract unless you have
the appropriate
disclaimers.
And in nearly every ISP's terms-of-service, which
On Feb 6, 2011, at 10:34 AM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Owen DeLong o...@delong.com
I'm pretty sure the PS3 will get resolved through a software update.
Yes, there will be user-visible disruptions in this transition.
No, it can't be 100% magic on the part
On February 5, 2011 at 18:11 d...@dcrocker.net (Dave CROCKER) wrote:
On 2/5/2011 6:43 AM, Fred Baker wrote:
On Feb 4, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Hayden Katzenellenbogen wrote:
Not sure if it has been said already but wasn't one of the key point for
the creation of the internet to create
On 2/6/2011 10:47 AM, Barry Shein wrote:
If you focus it down very sharply like this:
DARPA specified (or, perhaps, the project was sold to DARPA with
a promise...) that the network being designed in the late 1960s
should be resistant to a nuclear attack.
That's probably an
On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 10:43:18AM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
I believe that Sony will offer IPv6 software upgrades for the PS-3 because
they will eventually realize that failing to do so is bad for future sales.
Sony appears quite willing to file eye-openingly broad discovery requests
in its
On Feb 5, 2011, at 9:06 PM, John R. Levine wrote:
Sure. Bet you ten bucks that no hotel in North America offers IPv6 this year
in the wifi they provide to customers. (Conference networks don't count.)
That could easily be the case this year...
However, it's not going to stay that way for
if it's running a recent net80211 stack, you'll need to create a vap sttion
interface first
eg, ifconfig wlan0 create wlandev rum0
then do stuff to wlan0, not rum0.
Adrian
On Sun, Feb 06, 2011, Atticus wrote:
Im not familiar with wpa_supplicant, but you can preface external commands
to
Is anyone on this list aware of any IPv6 ready networks in the English
speaking caribbean?
Rudi Daniel
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On Feb 6, 2011, at 11:11 AM, Henry Yen wrote:
On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 10:43:18AM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
I believe that Sony will offer IPv6 software upgrades for the PS-3 because
they will eventually realize that failing to do so is bad for future sales.
Sony appears quite willing to
Once upon a time, Henry Yen he...@aegisinfosys.com said:
On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 10:43:18AM -0800, Owen DeLong wrote:
I believe that Sony will offer IPv6 software upgrades for the PS-3 because
they will eventually realize that failing to do so is bad for future sales.
Technical impediments
On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:16 PM, David Conrad wrote:
As you're aware, RFC 2050 was a group effort, so focusing on Jon's intent
seems questionable particularly given he sadly isn't around to provide
corrections.
While it may have been a group effort, Jon was the IANA.
With regards to specific
On Feb 6, 2011, at 2:28 PM, Owen DeLong wrote:
While Sony is, indeed, showing surprising market ignorance and bad
judgment at the moment, I think that the market will eventually teach
them a lesson in these regards.
Time will tell.
It is worth correlating that there seems to be some
the authoritative and secondary servers for the ميسر. zone were
unreachable, a circumstance which existed a year ago for the .ht zone.
the authoritative and secondary servers for the .eg zone were
mutually unreachable.
wireline dialtone was prevalent during the prefix withdrawal period.
What's really needed is seperate the routing slot market from the
address allocation market.
Bingo! In fact, having an efficient market for obtaining routing of a
given prefix, combined with IPv6 vast identifier space, could
actually satisfy the primary goals that we hold for a long-term
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 12:15 PM, Joel Jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote:
On 2/6/11 8:00 AM, John Curran wrote:
On Feb 5, 2011, at 9:40 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
What's really needed is seperate the routing slot market from the
address allocation market.
Bingo! In fact, having an efficient market
1) You get a note from the owner of jidaw.com, a large ISP in Nigeria,
telling you that they have two defaultless routers so they'd like a
share of the route fees. Due to the well known fraud problem in
Nigeria, please pay them into the company's account in the Channel
Islands. What do
On 2/6/2011 2:53 PM, Derek J. Balling wrote:
It is worth correlating that there seems to be some agreement to surprising market
ignorance in the feature set and implementation of IPv6 as it pertains to the
demands of its myriad actual consumers, and that the market will eventually teach the
On 2/6/2011 3:16 PM, John Levine wrote:
I can imagine some technical backpressure, particularly against networks
that don't aggregate their routes, but money? Forget about it, unless
perhaps you want to mix them into the peering/transit negotiations.
On the other hand, the ESPN3 extortion
In message aanlktiksv84+tsm80ajyxg-xzdfx3ngjz1fjm0kq6...@mail.gmail.com, Fred
Richards writes:
I ran across this link a while back, it shows, of the top 100k
websites (according to Alexa), which ones are IPv6 enabled:
On Feb 6, 2011, at 9:53 AM, John Curran wrote:
Your suggestion that existing loans may be impacted means to be ignored
for evaluating future allocations does seems a bit superfluous when taken
in full context, but obviously must be considered as you are one of the
authors.
I believe (it
In message 23119638.5335.1297017284299.javamail.r...@benjamin.baylink.com, Ja
y Ashworth writes:
- Original Message -
From: Owen DeLong o...@delong.com
I'm pretty sure the PS3 will get resolved through a software update.
Yes, there will be user-visible disruptions in this
On 2/6/2011 4:44 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
PS3 will only be a problem if it doesn't work through double NAT
or there is no IPv4 path available. Homes will be dual stacked for
the next 10 years or so even if the upstream is IPv6 only. DS-Lite
or similar will provide a IPv4 path. The DS-Lite
In message 4d4f27e4.6080...@brightok.net, Jack Bates writes:
On 2/6/2011 4:44 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
PS3 will only be a problem if it doesn't work through double NAT
or there is no IPv4 path available. Homes will be dual stacked for
the next 10 years or so even if the upstream is IPv6
On 2011-02-03, at 18:37, Paul Graydon wrote:
On 02/02/2011 06:31 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
I, personally, have been waiting to hear what happens when network techs
discover that they can't carry IP addresses around in their heads anymore.
That sounds trivial, perhaps, but I don't think
On Feb 6, 2011, at 8:57 AM, isabel dias wrote:
do you have a satellite dish? what are your dish pointing coordinates..we
just need to find out what is going on the air interface ...
I don't personally have one but of of the companies that I contract to is in
the satellite networks
On 2/6/2011 6:13 PM, Joe Abley wrote:
I'm not sure this is the nightmare people think it will be.
In my (admittedly fairly small-scale) experience with operating v6 on real
networks, being able to figure out a prefix from a schema such as
ARIN:ARIN:SITE:VLAN::/64
makes things a lot
it is both amusing and horrifying to watch two old dogs argue about
details of written rules as if common sense had died in october 1998.
what is good for the internet? what is simple? what is pragmatic? if
the answer is not simple and obvious, we should go break something else.
randy
On Feb 6, 2011, at 7:51 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
it is both amusing and horrifying to watch two old dogs argue about
details of written rules as if common sense had died in october 1998.
what is good for the internet? what is simple? what is pragmatic? if
the answer is not simple and obvious,
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On 02/06/2011 02:15 PM, Mark Andrews wrote:
In message aanlktiksv84+tsm80ajyxg-xzdfx3ngjz1fjm0kq6...@mail.gmail.com,
Fred
Richards writes:
I ran across this link a while back, it shows, of the top 100k
websites (according to Alexa), which ones
On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 04:51:26PM -0800, Randy Bush wrote:
it is both amusing and horrifying to watch two old dogs argue about
details of written rules as if common sense had died in october 1998.
what is good for the internet? what is simple? what is pragmatic? if
the answer is not simple
We (voxel.net, AS 29791) offer dual-stack on all server and cloud
products. As others have pointed out, SoftLayer is an excellent
example of a hosting provider that Gets It on a large scale.
Sadly, v6 support on popular cloud-only services is suspiciously
absent. Terremark vCoudExpress, Savvis,
On 2/6/11 7:08 PM, Adam Rothschild wrote:
We (voxel.net, AS 29791) offer dual-stack on all server and cloud
products. As others have pointed out, SoftLayer is an excellent
example of a hosting provider that Gets It on a large scale.
Sadly, v6 support on popular cloud-only services is
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:21 PM, Joel Jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote:
On 2/6/11 7:08 PM, Adam Rothschild wrote:
We (voxel.net, AS 29791) offer dual-stack on all server and cloud
products. As others have pointed out, SoftLayer is an excellent
example of a hosting provider that Gets It on a
Here's one list:
http://www.sixxs.net/wiki/IPv6_Enabled_Hosting
Frank
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From: Tim Chown [mailto:t...@ecs.soton.ac.uk]
Sent: Sunday, February 06, 2011 8:53 AM
To: NANOG list
Subject: Top webhosters offering v6 too?
Which of the big boys are doing it?
Tim
BlueHost, which while maybe not a great quality web host, by all
measures is a big one, not only does not support IPv6 but they denied
my request to create a record pointing to a friend's IPv6 page
for a domain I host there.
BH, are you listening???
-. Carlos
On Sun, Feb 6, 2011 at 7:58
On Sun, Feb 06, 2011 at 22:08:32PM -0500, Adam Rothschild wrote:
As others have pointed out, SoftLayer is an excellent
example of a hosting provider that Gets It on a large scale.
An excellent example of a provider that Spams on a large scale, too.
--
Henry Yen
On 02-05-11 8:29 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
On Feb 5, 2011, at 6:11 PM, Dave CROCKER wrote:
On 2/5/2011 6:43 AM, Fred Baker wrote:
On Feb 4, 2011, at 9:49 PM, Hayden Katzenellenbogen wrote:
Not sure if it has been said already but wasn't one of the key
point for the creation of the internet to
On 2/6/11 8:21 PM, Carlos Martinez-Cagnazzo wrote:
BlueHost, which while maybe not a great quality web host, by all
measures is a big one, not only does not support IPv6 but they denied
my request to create a record pointing to a friend's IPv6 page
for a domain I host there.
BH, are
Oxilion, dutch based provider (AS48539), also provides cloud services based
on RHEV. They do provide IPv6 also.
See for a redhat notice about this:
http://www.redhat.com/about/news/prarchive/2010/oxilion.html
Their site is mostly dutch, however this one is in English also
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