RE: IPv6 is on the marketers radar

2011-02-13 Thread Lee Howard
From: Geert Bosch [mailto:bo...@adacore.com] Basically, it should not have to cost anything extra to set up new users for IPv6. The same hardware that handles IPv4 today can be programmed to do IPv6. That is not the case for a significant number of home gateways and other consumer

Re: Old Annex question

2011-02-13 Thread Joe Hamelin
Michael Loftis mlof...@wgops.com wrote: I could just set the attn_string to say ^A and then I could just hit that and it would work, but it doesn't seem to. Remember if you're using minicom it will escape ^A for it's own menu use. Wolfe.net had a score of those with Multi-tech modems way back

Re: Old Annex question

2011-02-13 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 13/02/2011 15:30, Joe Hamelin wrote: day. I remember days spent hunting down ring-no-answers in a 400 POTS line hunt group. It was much easier to detect those by looking for strange port connectivity patterns in the logs. re: annexes, it was a happy day when we upgraded from annex 3 to

Re: Old Annex question

2011-02-13 Thread Jon Meek
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: On 13/02/2011 15:30, Joe Hamelin wrote: day. I remember days spent hunting down ring-no-answers in a 400 POTS line hunt group. It was much easier to detect those by looking for strange port connectivity patterns in

Re: quietly....

2011-02-13 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 2/3/11 12:59 PM, David Conrad wrote: On Feb 3, 2011, at 5:35 AM, Jack Bates wrote: You missed my pointed. Root servers are hard coded, but they aren't using a well known anycast address. Actually, most of the IP addresses used for root servers are anycast addresses and given they're in

Re: quietly....

2011-02-13 Thread David Conrad
On Feb 13, 2011, at 7:56 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: Of course, one might ask why those well known anycast addresses are owned by 12 different organizations instead of being golden addresses specified in an RFC or somesuch, but that gets into root server operator politics... there are perfectly

Re: quietly....

2011-02-13 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: David Conrad d...@virtualized.org On Feb 13, 2011, at 7:56 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: Of course, one might ask why those well known anycast addresses are owned by 12 different organizations instead of being golden addresses specified in an RFC or somesuch,

Combining 10g tap ports

2011-02-13 Thread Eric Gauthier
Hello, I'm wondering what are people's experience is with boxes, like those from Gigamon, to aggregate 10g span ports? Any recommendations? As background, we currently have a sensor network where we provide our InfoSec team with taps from various points in our network. In cases where we have

Re: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ryan Finnesey: This is one of the reasons we are starting to look at Juniper for a new network build. It is my understanding we set software updates for life for free. My understanding is that it's free for customers who have a service contract in place. Most downloads are not

Little to No Connectivity on LLNW Delivered Content // AS22822 ... AS7132

2011-02-13 Thread Raul Rodriguez
Will an ATT op comment on what looks like an outage (or the beginning of a connectivity tiff) regarding LLNW content (Netflix among others) delivered via GBLX and TiNet to AS7132 customers in Southern California? Here's the full path: AS22822 AS3257 AS7018 AS7132 Thanks. -RR

Re: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-13 Thread Randy Carpenter
How does Juniper feel about used hardware? ~Seth I love Juniper's hardware and software, and support. However, the way they deal with used or second hand hardware is terrible. It is not possible to transfer ownership at all. You can not resell anything, and hope to get any software updates

RE: SmartNet Alternatives

2011-02-13 Thread George Bonser
* Ryan Finnesey: This is one of the reasons we are starting to look at Juniper for a new network build. It is my understanding we set software updates for life for free. My understanding is that it's free for customers who have a service contract in place. Most downloads are not

Re: IPv6 is on the marketers radar

2011-02-13 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 000901cbcb22$3cf978a0$b6ec69e0$@org, Lee Howard writes: -Original Message- From: Geert Bosch [mailto:bo...@adacore.com] Honestly, I can't quite see the big deal for home users. I'm using an Apple Airport Extreme, and setting it up with a IPv6 tunnel from $150?

Re: IPv6 is on the marketers radar

2011-02-13 Thread Michael Dillon
It's bad that home gateways need replacing It's not neccessarily bad. There are a lot of older devices out there and technology has progressed a couple of generations since then. That spells market opportunity for manufacturers of IPv6 gateways, particularly at the higher end of the market where

Re: IPv6 is on the marketers radar

2011-02-13 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 8b082d10-a0ea-4012-8656-e60dd7ec7...@adacore.com, Geert Bosch write s: On Feb 12, 2011, at 21:03, Lee Howard wrote: Honestly, I can't quite see the big deal for home users. I'm using an Apple Airport Extreme, and setting it up with a IPv6 tunnel from =20 $150? That's a

RE: IPv6 mistakes, was: Re: Looking for an IPv6 naysayer...

2011-02-13 Thread Frank Bulk
Fine approach as long as the DSLAMs and CPE allow ether type 0x86DD to pass. Frank -Original Message- From: Jack Bates [mailto:jba...@brightok.net] Sent: Friday, February 11, 2011 4:01 PM To: Ricky Beam Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: IPv6 mistakes, was: Re: Looking for an IPv6

mailing list bounces

2011-02-13 Thread Mark Andrews
It looks like one of nanog's outbound servers doesn't have a PTR record. Mark Received:from s0.nanog.org (207.75.116.162) by edge.atlasbiz.com (192.168.198.21 ) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.255.0; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:34:17 + ; DiG 9.6.0-APPLE-P2 -x 207.75.116.162 ;; global options:

Packet over SONET failback

2011-02-13 Thread Jason Lixfeld
PoS failure detection happens in under 50ms, but what about the failback? Same deal? I ask because I've got two routers connected to opposite ends of a spare PoS link that I've been playing with and I'm noticing that the failback on the far side seems to be about 15 seconds (assuming the near

Re: mailing list bounces

2011-02-13 Thread Larry J. Blunk
- Original Message - It looks like one of nanog's outbound servers doesn't have a PTR record. Mark Received:from s0.nanog.org (207.75.116.162) by edge.atlasbiz.com (192.168.198.21 ) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.2.255.0; Sun, 13 Feb 2011 21:34:17 + ; DiG

Re: quietly....

2011-02-13 Thread Joel Jaeggli
On 2/13/11 10:31 AM, David Conrad wrote: On Feb 13, 2011, at 7:56 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: Of course, one might ask why those well known anycast addresses are owned by 12 different organizations instead of being golden addresses specified in an RFC or somesuch, but that gets into root server

Re: mailing list bounces

2011-02-13 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 121334192.111427.1297644483313.JavaMail.root@int-mailstore01, Larr y J. Blunk writes: - Original Message - It looks like one of nanog's outbound servers doesn't have a PTR record. Mark Received:from s0.nanog.org (207.75.116.162) by edge.atlasbiz.com

Re: My upstream ISP does not support IPv6

2011-02-13 Thread Joel Jaeggli
fwiw we have v6 transit from internap in metro atlanta. setup was drama-free. up until about 6 months ago it was offered on a non-production basis and only as a tunnel, now it's dual stacked to our customer edge. joel On 2/4/11 7:05 AM, Scott Helms wrote: We have been working diligently for

Re: IPv6 is on the marketers radar

2011-02-13 Thread Owen DeLong
On Feb 13, 2011, at 1:33 PM, Mark Andrews wrote: In message 000901cbcb22$3cf978a0$b6ec69e0$@org, Lee Howard writes: -Original Message- From: Geert Bosch [mailto:bo...@adacore.com] Honestly, I can't quite see the big deal for home users. I'm using an Apple Airport Extreme,

Re: quietly....

2011-02-13 Thread bmanning
On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 04:49:57PM -0800, Joel Jaeggli wrote: On 2/13/11 10:31 AM, David Conrad wrote: On Feb 13, 2011, at 7:56 AM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: Of course, one might ask why those well known anycast addresses are owned by 12 different organizations instead of being golden addresses

Re: quietly....

2011-02-13 Thread David Conrad
On Feb 13, 2011, at 2:49 PM, Joel Jaeggli wrote: Ignoring historical mistakes, what would they be? gosh, I can't imagine why anyone would want to renumber of out 198.32.64.0/24... I guess you missed the part where I said Ignoring historical mistakes. making them immutable pretty much

RE: quietly....

2011-02-13 Thread Frank Bulk
Ditto. -Original Message- From: Jack Bates [mailto:jba...@brightok.net] Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 11:02 PM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: quietly snip I have also now seen 2 different vendor DSL modems which when not using PPPoE require a manually entered default router (ie,

RE: quietly....

2011-02-13 Thread Frank Bulk
Sounds like PI space is a solution for those 5000 desktops. Frank -Original Message- From: david raistrick [mailto:dr...@icantclick.org] Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 11:05 AM To: Cameron Byrne; Owen DeLong Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: quietly On Tue, 1 Feb 2011, Cameron

RE: quietly....

2011-02-13 Thread Frank Bulk
Requiring them to be on certain well known addresses is restrictive and creates an unnecessary digression from IPv4 practice. It's comments like this that raise the hair on admins' necks. At least mine. Frank -Original Message- From: Iljitsch van Beijnum [mailto:iljit...@muada.com]