Can anybody point to dependable analysis of the performance credentials on
green (CO2/carbon neutral, recycling, etc) and financial cost recovery of the
Internet vendors such Juniper and Cisco et al?
The story emerging here is not looking very encouraging.
Christian
On 13 Feb 2011, at
I've used NHR for a number of deployments over the past couple of years and
they are a fantastic organisation to work with. I've used them for maintenance
support in the US for replacement of parts - highly recommended.
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From: tbran...@gmail.com
Sent: Tue, February
On 2011-02-16, at 02:44, Douglas Otis wrote:
Routers indicate local MTUs, but minimum MTUs are not assured to have 1280
octets when IPv4 translation is involved.
See Section 5 in rfc2460.
I've heard that interpretation of 2460 before from Bill Manning, but I still
don't see it myself. The
- Original Message -
From: Martin Millnert milln...@gmail.com
To: Marshall Eubanks t...@americafree.tv
Cc: North American Network Operators Group nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, 17 February, 2011 8:28:22 AM
Subject: Re: NYTimes: Egypt Leaders Found ‘Off’ Switch for Internet
On Wed,
I don't think that the Egyptian shutdown of domain names had much effect;
that's why the bgp prefixes were withdrawn. What was effective was the
withdrawal of BGP prefixes.
http://www.renesys.com/blog/2011/01/egypt-leaves-the-internet.shtml notes, for
example, that routes *through* Egypt were
John,
Congratulations to you and ICANN for this significant step, at all the
various layers and meanings of significant. :)
Relevant to another post today, I've noticed that neither the
*.ip6-servers.arpa nor the *.in-addr-servers.arpa allow axfr. Which
leads to the following questions:
On Feb 16, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
John,
Congratulations to you and ICANN for this significant step, at all the
various layers and meanings of significant. :)
Relevant to another post today, I've noticed that neither the
*.ip6-servers.arpa nor the *.in-addr-servers.arpa
On 02/16/2011 13:44, John Curran wrote:
On Feb 16, 2011, at 4:30 PM, Doug Barton wrote:
John,
Congratulations to you and ICANN for this significant step, at all the various
layers and meanings of significant. :)
Relevant to another post today, I've noticed that neither the
On 2/16/11 4:25 PM, Fred Baker wrote:
I don't think that the Egyptian shutdown of domain names had much effect ...
ditto.
i'm not aware of any actions by the .eg registry operator, though i'll
ask, coincidental to the prefix withdrawal.
i suppose in the interests of completeness i should
Never mind, Messrs. Cowie and Baker answered my question:
http://mailman.nanog.org/pipermail/nanog/2011-February/033181.html
Couldn't have paths through Egypt if layer 2 were cut off.
(Right?)
--Richard
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Richard Barnes
richard.bar...@gmail.com wrote:
It also
On 2011-02-16, at 17:33, Doug Barton wrote:
This leads to 2 additional questions:
1. Is the zone available from those 2 locations the same as what's
available on the authoritative servers, or is there a lag time between
updates on the auth and the xfr servers?
The two servers mentioned
On Feb 16, 2011, at 4:25 13PM, Fred Baker wrote:
I don't think that the Egyptian shutdown of domain names had much effect;
that's why the bgp prefixes were withdrawn. What was effective was the
withdrawal of BGP prefixes.
Per the NYT article, the issue was the Egyptian Intranet -- people
- Original Message -
From: Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca
To: Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us
Cc: John Curran jcur...@arin.net, NANOG na...@merit.edu
Sent: Thursday, 17 February, 2011 12:05:16 PM
Subject: Re: [arin-announce] IN-ADDR.ARPA Zone Transfer Complete
On 2011-02-16, at
I'm building up to 3000-4000ms latency with these BIB routers. We never had
this issue on the old point to points using Cisco gear.
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 5:09 PM, Jim Gettys j...@freedesktop.org wrote:
On 02/16/2011 05:44 PM, Mikeal Clark wrote:
We just put in a ATT MPLS and are having a
On 2/16/11 6:10 PM, Steven Bellovin wrote:
On Feb 16, 2011, at 4:25 13PM, Fred Baker wrote:
I don't think that the Egyptian shutdown of domain names had much effect;
that's why the bgp prefixes were withdrawn. What was effective was the
withdrawal of BGP prefixes.
Per the NYT article, the
ah
On Feb 16, 2011, at 3:10 PM, Steven Bellovin wrote:
On Feb 16, 2011, at 4:25 13PM, Fred Baker wrote:
I don't think that the Egyptian shutdown of domain names had much effect;
that's why the bgp prefixes were withdrawn. What was effective was the
withdrawal of BGP prefixes.
Per
On 2/16/11 10:57 PM, Joe Abley wrote:
On 2011-02-16, at 02:44, Douglas Otis wrote:
Routers indicate local MTUs, but minimum MTUs are not assured to have 1280
octets when IPv4 translation is involved.
See Section 5 in rfc2460.
I've heard that interpretation of 2460 before from Bill Manning,
Mounir,
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 6:58 PM, Mounir Mohamed
mounir.moha...@gmail.com wrote:
No the BGP and the physical links were down.
did you have any domestic BGP sessions up?
Regards,
Martin
On 02/16/2011 15:13, Franck Martin wrote:
- Original Message -
From: Joe Ableyjab...@hopcount.ca
To: Doug Bartondo...@dougbarton.us
Cc: John Curranjcur...@arin.net, NANOGna...@merit.edu
Sent: Thursday, 17 February, 2011 12:05:16 PM
Subject: Re: [arin-announce] IN-ADDR.ARPA Zone
- Original Message -
From: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com
To: Fred Baker f...@cisco.com
Cc: Franck Martin fra...@genius.com, North American Network Operators
Group nanog@nanog.org
Sent: Thursday, 17 February, 2011 2:37:02 PM
Subject: Re: Local root zone (Was NYTimes: Egypt Leaders Found
Congrats to all on getting this done! It's been a long time in coming. Good to
see it finally finished.
Regards,
-drc
On Feb 16, 2011, at 1:00 PM, John Curran wrote:
Apologies for cross-posting, but I believe this relevant to the NANOG
operator community.
FYI,
/John
Begin forwarded
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:14:48 +0800, Phil Regnauld said:
Point 2:
I've heard that 98% of traffic to the root is junk, but since
NXDOMAINs get quickly neg cached, how much bandwidth conservation
and resource preservation are we talking about ? If one takes
This list serves a number of purposes and one of them is to answer
technical networking questions. But this list is also not the only
place that these types of questions are asked. For instance, LinkedIn
has a QA feature where people can ask and answer questions on a wide
range of topics. Just
On 02/16/2011 06:16 PM, Mikeal Clark wrote:
I'm building up to 3000-4000ms latency with these BIB routers. We never
had this issue on the old point to points using Cisco gear.
Bufferbloat is getting more and more common, as memory has gotten
cheaper, and braindead people claim that 0 packet
No the BGP and the physical links were down.
What about non-Internet layer 2 links? A number of companies have
private IP networks extending into Egypt providing MPLS or other VPN
services. In addition, there are often longlines into the Gulf states
to provide the Egyptian sites with redundancy.
I'm never afraid to ask a question, just as long as I've done my homework (due
diligence)
and not using this group to do work for me.
Believe me, this group has helped me tremendously.
As for LinkedIN, I have nothing against, it, but I don't use it. I don't have
an account on it
and not
Michael Dillon (wavetossed) writes:
What do you think? (Probably best to answer this on the NANOG group over
at...
Hmm, wouldn't http://serverfault.com/ or http://www.quora.com/ be a more
appropriate / efficient forum for technical questions ? Or does it have
to be
From: Mikeal Clark
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 3:16 PM
To: Jim Gettys
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: ATT MPLS / BIB Routers
I'm building up to 3000-4000ms latency with these BIB routers. We
never had
this issue on the old point to points using Cisco gear.
Something I
Doug Barton (dougb) writes:
Actually it seems like you want to jump up and down on it. Given
that both the benefits and the potential problems have been
extensively debated elsewhere, I'll simply say that you raise
interesting questions that I think people interested in this method
should
On 02/16/2011 22:16, Phil Regnauld wrote:
Doug Barton (dougb) writes:
Actually it seems like you want to jump up and down on it. Given
that both the benefits and the potential problems have been
extensively debated elsewhere, I'll simply say that you raise
interesting questions that I think
At 19:03 16/02/2011 -0800, Michael Dillon wrote:
This list serves a number of purposes and one of them is to answer
technical networking questions. But this list is also not the only
place that these types of questions are asked. For instance, LinkedIn
has a QA feature where people can ask and
On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 22:23, Phil Regnauld regna...@nsrc.org wrote:
Michael Dillon (wavetossed) writes:
What do you think? (Probably best to answer this on the NANOG group over
at...
Hmm, wouldn't http://serverfault.com/ or http://www.quora.com/ be
a more
appropriate /
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