Sorry to start the day OT, but I'm sure you lovely lot will have some
tips/experience! ;)
We have a HP Server Cabinet (42U 10842 G2), that we've stripped down to the
bare-bones chassis. It now measures 750mm wide.
We have a door-way that said server cabinet must fit through, measuring up
at
This may be a silly question but.. How did it get in there?
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Subject: OT: Server Cabinet
Sorry to start the day OT, but I'm sure you lovely lot will have
On Wed, 2011-05-04 at 09:43 +0100, Robert Lusby wrote:
Can you see where this is leading yet?
Is there no other entrance that's wider, perhaps a window/skylight?
Cutting-up a cabinet (only to find that it's pretty impossible to make
it sturdy again) or demolishing the wall may well be more
On 04/05/2011 10:53, Leigh Porter wrote:
This may be a silly question but.. How did it get in there?
I'm assuming that it's not yet in there :-)
I'd probably knock the wall down and fit a more reasonably sized door -
620mm (2') seems a bit narrow for a door anyway.
One could of course get a
I've removed the doorframe before, and usually replaced with a wider doorframe
later.
-Bill
On May 4, 2011, at 11:07, James Aldridge j...@mcvax.org wrote:
On 04/05/2011 10:53, Leigh Porter wrote:
This may be a silly question but.. How did it get in there?
I'm
Not a silly question my fault for not making clear - cabinet is still
outside the room ... yet to go in.
And, no other entrance points. Room is below ground level, with a stupidly
narrow door frame. Old client building, with a room not originally designed
for purpose.
Short of scrapping this
In article BANLkTin4qhFifiTeFcnZ+EU_02-h=wd...@mail.gmail.com, Robert
Lusby nano...@gmail.com writes
1) Have you ever had to fit a cabinet through a doorway that's too small?
Yes, but it was height not width
2) How did you do it? Cut cabinet, demolish wall ...?
by taking the fan tray off
In article banlktin1qsuj_knoamc4n+yame0odz3...@mail.gmail.com, Robert
Lusby nano...@gmail.com writes
Short of scrapping this cabinet
If you have no other use for it - sell on eBay! That's where my spare
cabinet went last year.
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On May 4, 2011, at 5:06 AM, James Aldridge wrote:
On 04/05/2011 10:53, Leigh Porter wrote:
This may be a silly question but.. How did it get in there?
I'm assuming that it's not yet in there :-)
I'd probably knock the wall down and fit a more reasonably sized door -
620mm (2') seems a
On 04/05/2011, at 1:54 AM, George Bonser gbon...@seven.com wrote:
Multicast is an elegant solution to a dwindling problem set.
And that is fundamentally where we disagree. I see this as not
elegant at all. It is a fundamental part of the protocol suite. It
is no more elegant than
Date: Wed, 4 May 2011 09:43:53 +0100
Subject: OT: Server Cabinet
From: Robert Lusby nano...@gmail.com
Sorry to start the day OT, but I'm sure you lovely lot will have some
tips/experience! ;)
We have a HP Server Cabinet (42U 10842 G2), that we've stripped down to the
bare-bones chassis.
Can you see where this is leading yet? Three obvious questions:
1) Have you ever had to fit a cabinet through a doorway that's too small?
2) How did you do it? Cut cabinet, demolish wall ...?
3) If you cut the cabinet, any tips?
Comment: you need to recognize that you are 'making
It's admittedly far from ideal in some ways, but a great way to deal
with this sort of situation can be to get a pair of two-post open
frame relay racks; most of them bolt together and can be put just
about anywhere. Many times we forget that these can be used as the
front and back of a
If you have a need for a 4-post rack, do not accomplish that by using 2 2-post
racks. You will likely find that rack rails that are designed for a 4-post rack
will not fit.
Get an open-frame 4-post rack. It will come unassembled. It will also likely be
no more costly that 2 2-post racks.
On Wed, 4 May 2011, Joe Greco wrote:
Good comments so far. I didn't see this one though:
It's admittedly far from ideal in some ways, but a great way to deal
with this sort of situation can be to get a pair of two-post open
frame relay racks; most of them bolt together and can be put just
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:43 AM, Robert Lusby nano...@gmail.com wrote:
We have a HP Server Cabinet (42U 10842 G2), that we've stripped down to the
bare-bones chassis. It now measures 750mm wide.
We have a door-way that said server cabinet must fit through, measuring up
at 620mm.
Hi Rob,
My
If you have a need for a 4-post rack, do not accomplish that by using 2 2-po=
st racks. You will likely find that rack rails that are designed for a 4-pos=
t rack will not fit.
Why? With *any* rack, there are always scenarios where the rack rails for
some random item don't end up fitting
In a message written on Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:09:33AM +0100, Robert Lusby
wrote:
And, no other entrance points. Room is below ground level, with a stupidly
narrow door frame. Old client building, with a room not originally designed
for purpose.
I think folks can help you find a bolt
Once upon a time, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net said:
Now of course we have no idea what's going to be mounted in this, but
it's an HP rack so I assume maybe HP servers, which tend towards the
heavy.
One thing about using a 2-post rack for servers that can be a problem is
that most 2-post racks
Once upon a time, Joe Greco jgr...@ns.sol.net said:
Now of course we have no idea what's going to be mounted in this, but
it's an HP rack so I assume maybe HP servers, which tend towards the
heavy.
One thing about using a 2-post rack for servers that can be a problem is
that most 2-post
On Wed, 4 May 2011, Joe Greco wrote:
If you have a need for a 4-post rack, do not accomplish that by using 2 2-po=
st racks. You will likely find that rack rails that are designed for a 4-pos=
t rack will not fit.
Possibly, though you can usually order universal rails to fit
tapped-hole
On Tuesday, May 03, 2011 01:54:00 PM Jay Ford wrote:
On Tue, 3 May 2011, vince anton wrote:
Anyone has experiemces to share or known v6 issues with SXF (or v4 issues
with v6 enabled for that matter), or should I be looking at SRC/SRD/SRE for
7600 ?
I have 9 6500+SUP720-3BXL boxes with a
Do you have any kids ?
If yes ask them to do it, leave and come back a few hours later
On 5/4/2011 10:07 AM, Chaim Rieger wrote:
Do you have any kids ?
If yes ask them to do it, leave and come back a few hours later
At last, a helpful answer!
Seriously, disregarding all the helpful comments from everyone
questioning your judgment in trying to move a large cabinet through a
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From: Jeffrey S. Young yo...@jsyoung.net
I think it's elegant, in think Deering did an incredible job to
create it and some many years ago I played a role to bring
multicast to the Internet at large. I believed that multicast
would play a huge role in the
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From: Chaim Rieger chaim.rie...@gmail.com
Do you have any kids ?
If yes ask them to do it, leave and come back a few hours later
And the Webby for Best Short Answer to a NANOG Question goes ... to.
What's your 5 word acceptance speech, Chaim?
Cheers,
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I think that George's POV -- which is also mine -- is that as the
world shifts, the percentage of video distribution which is
amenable to multicast, and not well served by unicast, is likely
to grow, and it would be a Good Idea to be ready for that
situation already when it arrives.
Really?
I think that George's POV -- which is also mine -- is that as the
world shifts, the percentage of video distribution which is
amenable to multicast, and not well served by unicast, is likely
to grow, and it would be a Good Idea to be ready for that
situation already when it arrives.
On 5/4/2011 12:26 PM, Tim Franklin wrote:
I think that George's POV -- which is also mine -- is that as the
world shifts, the percentage of video distribution which is
amenable to multicast, and not well served by unicast, is likely
to grow, and it would be a Good Idea to be ready for that
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On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Leigh Porter
leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com wrote:
Agreed, it seems the only demand really for this live viewing is sport, news
and background programming like the mentioned breakfast television.
I disagree with the general notion that multicast is not useful
On 5/4/2011 2:07 PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:45 PM, Leigh Porter
leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com wrote:
Agreed, it seems the only demand really for this live viewing is sport, news
and background programming like the mentioned breakfast television.
I disagree with the
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I disagree with the general notion that multicast is not useful except
for live content.
Oh, there are all SORTS of things it would be well-suited for. Live
content is just the lowest hanging fruit.
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On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Scott Helms khe...@ispalliance.net wrote:
Local caching is MUCH more efficient than having the same traffic running in
streams and depending on everyone's PC to try and update in the same time
This only works, of course, if there is a local cache which PCs are
Hello NANOG,
I sent this information to the rwhoisd mailing list originally but I've been
informed that the mailing list is mostly dead now. I hope this is not too
far off-topic for NANOG. One person replied to me off-list from the rwhois
mailing list and had some help but I haven't found a
On May 4, 2011, at 3:37 48PM, Jeff Wheeler wrote:
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Scott Helms khe...@ispalliance.net wrote:
Local caching is MUCH more efficient than having the same traffic running in
streams and depending on everyone's PC to try and update in the same time
This only
Do anyone know of any good technical writer in Seattle/Bellevue area that we
can contract for a month?
Thanks
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Thanks for clarifying this, actually I have a few more blocks with four
origin ASNs that I'm not positive if they are anycast prefixes. Please help
distinguish them if the provide anycast service.
27.130.0.0/16
58.147.0.0/20
58.147.0.0/17
58.147.16.0/20
58.147.64.0/20
58.147.80.0/20
On 2011-05-04, at 23:11, Yaoqing(Joey) Liu wrote:
Thanks for clarifying this, actually I have a few more blocks with four
origin ASNs that I'm not positive if they are anycast prefixes. Please help
distinguish them if the provide anycast service.
You could probably get a good distance
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote:
On 2011-05-04, at 23:11, Yaoqing(Joey) Liu wrote:
Thanks for clarifying this, actually I have a few more blocks with four
origin ASNs that I'm not positive if they are anycast prefixes. Please help
distinguish them if the
On Wed, 4 May 2011, George Bonser wrote:
There is a security aspect to such things, though, as how do you know
the content is from a trusted source? That is the bugaboo with
multicast. It needs to be information that isn't going to hurt anything
if it is bogus. Also, it opens up a DoS
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From: Jeff Wheeler j...@inconcepts.biz
The potential savings is limited by the over-speed of the mcast stream
vs real-time, and the density of mcast listener groups. Given that
access network speeds continue to increase, yet ISPs are really not
increasing
Landon,
By no means an expert in rwhoisd, but my net directory has the
following:
atrribute_defs directory
data directory
schema file
soa file
and the DATA directory contains the following:
network directory
org directory
referral directory
From what you describe it sounds like things
--As of May 4, 2011 5:43:04 PM -0400, Jay Ashworth is alleged to have said:
You know what would make this work *well*? If IAPs *didn't include mcast
traffic in your cap*. Since the reason for their caps is, in the final
analysis *to limit THEIR transit costs*, multicast would seem to be a
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On 05/05/2011, at 2:53 AM, Scott Helms wrote:
On 5/4/2011 12:26 PM, Tim Franklin wrote:
I think that George's POV -- which is also mine -- is that as the
world shifts, the percentage of video distribution which is
amenable to multicast, and
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Tim Durack tdur...@gmail.com wrote:
Multicast is a great technical solution in search of a good business problem.
It's a useful replacement for broadcast on a local link. It's of
limited utility elsewhere.
On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 5:21 PM, George Bonser
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From: Daniel Staal dst...@usa.net
--As of May 4, 2011 5:43:04 PM -0400, Jay Ashworth is alleged to have
said:
You know what would make this work *well*? If IAPs *didn't include mcast
traffic in your cap*. Since the reason for their caps is, in the final
On Wed, 04 May 2011 18:20:09 EDT, William Herrin said:
And of course such a cache system could work well for popular
non-streamed content as well.
Never quite linked up with someone interested in seeing an
implementation though...
I suspect to generate interest, it would have to be
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On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote:
No business is entitled to protection of its business model.
Unless it has a market monopoly, deep pockets, and lobbyist friends.
That does not mean they're *entitled* to it... just that they
On 4 May 2011 04:43, Robert Lusby nano...@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry to start the day OT, but I'm sure you lovely lot will have some
tips/experience! ;)
We have a HP Server Cabinet (42U 10842 G2), that we've stripped down to the
bare-bones chassis. It now measures 750mm wide.
We have a
Hi NANOG,
I manually extracted the origins and their org info for the announced
block of prefixes. All these prefixes were observed being originated
by at most four ASNs simultaneously. I suspect they provide anycast or
IXP service, but not positive. Please confirm my conjecture if you
know them.
There is a security aspect to such things, though, as how do you
know
the content is from a trusted source? That is the bugaboo with
multicast. It needs to be information that isn't going to hurt
anything
if it is bogus. Also, it opens up a DoS possibility with noise
traffic
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