When we first read about the noise issues in the area we invested a large
sum of capital in an RD facility to developed electronic cow bells that
have integrated GPS in them so the cow knows where it is and can simply turn
the bell off. The bells are now under manufacture in China and we
Dear Mr J,
Many thanks for your attention and focus on the issues.
I do hope that the author of the link in the OPs post has had his
attention drawn to my series of posts.
You have demonstrated in less then half a dozen posts that the article
author simply isn't getting off his butt and
Ricardo Ferreira wrote:
Funny, how in the title refers to the Internet globally when the article is
specific about the USA.
I live in europe and we have at home 100Mbps . Mid sized city of 500k
people. Some ISPs even spread WiFi across town so that subscribers can have
internet access outside
Though it's nice to have why would one *need* 100 Mbps at home?
some of us try to get work done from home. and anyone who has worked
and/or lived in a first world country thinks american 'broadband' speeds
are a joke, even for a home network.
randy
some of us try to get work done from home. and anyone who has worked
and/or lived in a first world country thinks american 'broadband' speeds
are a joke, even for a home network.
amen
-J
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 02:34:10AM -0700, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
Ricardo Ferreira wrote:
Funny, how in the title refers to the Internet globally when the article is
specific about the USA.
I live in europe and we have at home 100Mbps . Mid sized city of 500k
people. Some ISPs even spread
On 11/06/2011 9:34 p.m., Jeroen van Aart wrote:
I don't regard simultaneously streaming 6 channels of TV and downloading
the latest movie torrent in 2 minutes as a basic necessity, let alone
essential.
100/40 isn't about 6 channels of TV and even less about torrents.
It's about BIR not CIR.
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 02:34:10AM -0700, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
Though it's nice to have why would one *need* 100 Mbps at home? I
Residential broadband is asymmetric, so it's typically more like
6/100 MBit/s, though VDSL and FTTH are also making (slow) progress.
Even with that slow upstream
On Jun 11, 2011, at 1:54 AM, Chris Adams wrote:
IIRC in the several years I
had ISDN service, my bill was never exactly the same amount two
consecutive months (and I never had any usage charges, so it wasn't
because of that).
I upgraded several years ago to ISDN at home to move the D-A
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 05:34, Jeroen van Aart jer...@mompl.net wrote:
Ricardo Ferreira wrote:
Funny, how in the title refers to the Internet globally when the article
is
specific about the USA.
I live in europe and we have at home 100Mbps . Mid sized city of 500k
people. Some ISPs even
L
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From: TJ [mailto:trej...@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2011 07:39 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
On 6/11/2011 1:59 AM, Don Gould wrote:
Your responses clearly demonstrate by asking a few simple questions, and
allowing those with a few clues to be creative, that there are any
number of ways to get things done if you really want to perhaps this
is a new concept for people in rural
I don't regard simultaneously streaming 6 channels of TV and downloading
the latest movie torrent in 2 minutes as a basic necessity, let alone
essential.
Ten years ago, most people would have been shocked at the idea of a
cell phone that had a touchscreen, a 600MHz CPU, 16GB flash, and the
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 05:34, Jeroen van Aart jer...@mompl.net wrote:
Though it's nice to have why would one *need* 100 Mbps at home?
The essential point is: if people have the bandwidth, they fill it,
sometimes with uses we haven't dreamed up yet. In the USA at least,
creativity and
Also, the telcos generally made getting a BRI difficult to impossible.
An early string of Dilbert cartoons covered Dilbert's attempts to get
ISDN at his house, and IIRC they were based on Scott Adams' real-life
attempts (and this was either when or shortly after he worked for the
phone company).
On Jun 11, 2011, at 2:34 AM, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
Though it's nice to have why would one *need* 100 Mbps at home?
640K ought to be enough for anybody -- Bill Gates
Regards,
-drc
On 11 jun 2011, at 4:03, Owen DeLong wrote:
You can call that bad network design if you want, but, there are real world
requirements and scenarios where that has to happen for a variety of reasons.
Those networks have working configurations in DHCPv4 and no ability to move
to IPv6
until
Iljitsch,
On Jun 11, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
There is no point in repeating all the IPv4 mistakes with IPv6, if that's
what you want, stay on IPv4.
As should be apparent by now, the vast majority of people don't want to move to
IPv6. They simply want access to the
On Jun 11, 2011, at 5:34 10AM, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
Ricardo Ferreira wrote:
Funny, how in the title refers to the Internet globally when the article is
specific about the USA.
I live in europe and we have at home 100Mbps . Mid sized city of 500k
people. Some ISPs even spread WiFi across
On Jun 11, 2011, at 7:21 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
On 11 jun 2011, at 4:03, Owen DeLong wrote:
You can call that bad network design if you want, but, there are real world
requirements and scenarios where that has to happen for a variety of reasons.
Those networks have working
There is a RTP FEC extension...
Pete
On May 29, 2011, at 12:40 AM, Aria Stewart wrote:
Anyone have any interest in a forward-error-corrected streaming protocol
suitable for multicast, possibly both audio and video?
Good for when there's some packet loss.
Aria Stewart
I'm sorry, but IPv4 DHCP was a wonderful solution to many issues, which are
very very difficult in IPv6. RA is a solution looking for an actual problem.
That being said, I like having the option of RA, but it is only useful in a
very small subset of use cases, many it actually causes issues,
Leo Bicknell wrote:
In a message written on Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 05:13:09PM +0200, Iljitsch van
Beijnum wrote:
Now you could argue that the DHCPv6-supplied gateway addresses should have
higher priority than the ones learned from RAs. At least that solves the
problem. However, that solution
There is a RTP FEC extension...
Pete
On May 29, 2011, at 12:40 AM, Aria Stewart wrote:
Anyone have any interest in a forward-error-corrected streaming protocol
suitable for multicast, possibly both audio and video?
Good for when there's some packet loss.
Aria Stewart
I
I'm also searching something cheap software or device to stream audio only
(radio broadcasting, stream from external site to head-office).
Kind regards,
Ingo Flaschberger
RA is fine for residential use, its enterprises and institutions that would
benefit most from a route option with DHCPv6.
Frank
-Original Message-
From: Leo Bicknell [mailto:bickn...@ufp.org]
Sent: Friday, June 10, 2011 9:48 AM
To: Ray Soucy; Iljitsch van Beijnum
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Randy Bush wrote:
some of us try to get work done from home. and anyone who has worked
and/or lived in a first world country thinks american 'broadband' speeds
are a joke, even for a home network.
I understand, but I was referring to the average home internet
connection. But even for work
Don Gould wrote:
100/40 isn't about 6 channels of TV and even less about torrents.
It's about BIR not CIR.
It's about dropping my HD video recorder, with 2 hours of random video
recorded at todays 'family birthday party', on its 'hot shoe' and it
All these new gadgets will drive the need
Eugen Leitl wrote:
It definitely reduces need for moving human bodies in metal boxes
back and forth, and reduces road wear and carbon dioxide emissions.
I think a world of telecommuting employees is a utopia that will not be
reached in my lifetime. Most companies have proven to be unwilling
On Jun 11, 2011, at 6:37 PM, Jeroen van Aart wrote:
Eugen Leitl wrote:
It definitely reduces need for moving human bodies in metal boxes
back and forth, and reduces road wear and carbon dioxide emissions.
I think a world of telecommuting employees is a utopia that will not be
reached in
On 2011-06-10 21:03, Owen DeLong wrote:
On Jun 10, 2011, at 12:57 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
I just wish someone had said the same when it was decided that .ip6.int in
reverse DNS zone files was ugly and needed to be changed to .ip6.arpa. Or when
someone decided that it's a good idea to
On Jun 11, 2011, at 19:00, TR Shaw ts...@oitc.com wrote:
I'm not sure where this thread is going but rural america and rural canada
are rolling their own broadband connectivity in places.
This is my eventual goal where I'm moving. (Oswego Co., NY).
I'm well aware that I'm moving outside of
But this is all luxury, it's not the fulfillment of a basic need and
even a right (as proclaimed by the UN). It's going above and beyond
that, which is fine, but it's not *needed* in the sense of survival and
being able to further yourself in life and career.
A smartphone may be a luxury.
- Original Message -
From: Jay Murphy, DOH jay.mur...@state.nm.us
The umbra of it all. We have jobs though.
Not all of us.
Cheers,
-- jra
--
Jay R. Ashworth Baylink j...@baylink.com
Designer The Things I Think
- Original Message -
From: Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net
The current set of iphone/ipad firmware updates are about 700mb per
device. Not counting the latest combo updater (or incremental) for
MacOS. (Hopefully with the 5.0 software announced they will do OTA
updates on a
On 6/11/2011 4:29 PM, Christopher Pilkington wrote:
On Jun 11, 2011, at 19:00, TR Shawts...@oitc.com wrote:
I'm not sure where this thread is going but rural america and rural canada are
rolling their own broadband connectivity in places.
This is my eventual goal where I'm moving. (Oswego
- Original Message -
From: Valdis Kletnieks valdis.kletni...@vt.edu
(Biggest single issue? Probably that some companies got really big incentives
a
number of years ago to deploy broadband, and were allowed to pocket the money
without actually deploying. Will take quite a bit to
- Original Message -
From: Jeroen van Aart jer...@mompl.net
Though it's nice to have why would one *need* 100 Mbps at home?
(I can't imagine that no one's gone here yet...)
Jeroen: does your computer have more than 640KB of RAM?
Cheers,
-- jr 'or your cellphone? Watch?' a
--
Jay R.
Hi guys,
Firstly, sorry if this may sound too newbie for the list. Reading the
discussion about dhcpv6 vs RAs, this question just popped in my mind.
It seems that most of IPv6 addressing for hosts will be choosed using EUI-64
method. Considering that no one (specially endusers) will bother to
Sent from my iPad
On Jun 11, 2011, at 15:16, Jeroen van Aart jer...@mompl.net wrote:
Randy Bush wrote:
some of us try to get work done from home. and anyone who has worked
and/or lived in a first world country thinks american 'broadband' speeds
are a joke, even for a home network.
I
I have an interesting situation at a business that I am working on. We
currently have the office set up with redundant connections for their mission
critical servers and such, and also have a (cheap) cable modem for general
browsing on client machines.
The interesting part is that the client
Also remember there are a lot of moves afoot to *make it illegal* for
cities
and other municipalities to deploy last-mile fiber, as we discussed a
couple
weeks ago. Who's responsible for most of that?
Verizon.
Can you spell FiOS?
My assertion's been that they need it to save them
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 10:30:26PM -0300, Fabio Mendes wrote:
Firstly, sorry if this may sound too newbie for the list. Reading the
discussion about dhcpv6 vs RAs, this question just popped in my mind.
It seems that most of IPv6 addressing for hosts will be choosed using EUI-64
method.
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Randy Carpenter rcar...@network1.netwrote:
With IPv6, we are having some trouble coming up with a way to do this.
Since there is no NAT, does anyone have any ideas as to how this could be
accomplished?
Juniper, *BSD (including pfsense) and Linux all do NAT66
I have an interesting situation at a business that I am working on. We
currently have the office set up with redundant connections for their
mission critical servers and such, and also have a (cheap) cable modem for
general browsing on client machines.
The interesting part is that the
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Reath [mailto:m...@mattreath.com]
Sent: June-11-11 11:22 PM
To: Randy Carpenter
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Question about migrating to IPv6 with multiple upstreams.
Standard IP routing, the default gateway of the network can decide based
on
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Reath [mailto:m...@mattreath.com]
Sent: June-11-11 11:22 PM
To: Randy Carpenter
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Question about migrating to IPv6 with multiple upstreams.
Standard IP routing, the default gateway of the network can decide based
on a
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Reath [mailto:m...@mattreath.com]
Sent: June-11-11 11:22 PM
To: Randy Carpenter
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Question about migrating to IPv6 with multiple upstreams.
Standard IP routing, the default gateway of the network can decide based
on a
I guess I'm a little confused on the setup. You have a firewall with
a
connection to a local LAN, another connection to customer network(s),
and
a third connection to the Internet via cable modem?
You have NAT setup to NAT your Local LAN out to the Internet and to
the
customer network?
Wishing all the attendees a good time and a great start in Denver.
NewNog is now NANOG and thank you to the community which has been a
great source of information and education.
Way to go Betty,Patrick and everyone else I have never met, but take
the ball and run with it.
For a fuller discussion of this scenario, you can read this draft:
http://wiki.tools.ietf.org/id/draft-ietf-v6ops-ipv6-multihoming-without-ipv6nat-00.txt
Frank
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From: Randy Carpenter [mailto:rcar...@network1.net]
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