RE: IPv6 version of www.qwest.com/www.centurylink.com has been down for 10 days

2011-08-18 Thread Leigh Porter
-Original Message- From: Frank Bulk [mailto:frnk...@iname.com] Sent: 18 August 2011 06:36 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: IPv6 version of www.qwest.com/www.centurylink.com has been down for 10 days The IPv6 version of www.qwest.com has been down for 10 days. Wget shows a 301 to

cox.net in NoVa IPv6 engineer sought

2011-08-18 Thread Edward Lewis
I have some questions wrt IPv6 workings...can someone from cox contact me privately? Thanks in advance, -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Edward Lewis NeuStarYou can leave a voice message at +1-571-434-5468 I'm overly

Re: IPv6 version of www.qwest.com/www.centurylink.com has been down for 10 days

2011-08-18 Thread Dale W. Carder
Thus spake Leigh Porter (leigh.por...@ukbroadband.com) on Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:47:19AM +: It seems that any IPv6 efforts by organisations are best effort at most with of course some notable exceptions who seem to offer a really very good service (HE for example). It's starting to

Charter Others - Bogon Filtering 223.0.0.0/8

2011-08-18 Thread host
I Apologise for having to resort to mailing such a large list, and for wasting anyone's time who is not using bogon filters anymore, however since being allocated a /22 by APNIC on 223.0.0.0/8 around 12 months ago, we have begun using it now in production, and are getting complaints from some

RE: Charter Others - Bogon Filtering 223.0.0.0/8

2011-08-18 Thread host
Thank you to everyone who has replied. Charter have got back to me and are investigating this now. Appreciate everyone's fast responses! Regards, Greg -Original Message- From: Greg M [mailto:gr...@servu.net.au] On Behalf Of h...@desura.com Sent: Friday, 19 August 2011 12:14 AM To:

What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Mark Keymer
I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. I myself have a cable provider at home that I use. And I find it quite frustrating to call and report issues in there network, because the people in the call center have

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread PC
$big_national_ISP? Well, most problems I see are major and not just routing to one other ISP. My solution? Pull out the smartphone and tether if I really need to get on the web. Otherwise I sleep it off or do something else. I only call if it's hours/days in duration, or likely isolated to my

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Mark Keymer m...@viviotech.net wrote: I myself have a cable provider at home that I use. And I find it quite frustrating to call and report issues in there network, because the people in the call center have you do the same things every time and are not very

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Ariel Biener
On 08/18/2011 08:30 PM, PC wrote: $big_national_ISP? Well, most problems I see are major and not just routing to one other ISP. My solution? Pull out the smartphone and tether if I really need to get on the web. Or connect to the neighbors unprotected wifi... :) --Ariel -- -- Ariel

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Jon Lewis
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Mark Keymer wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. I myself have a cable provider at home that I use. And I find it quite frustrating to call and report issues in there network,

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread mikea
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:21:57AM -0700, Mark Keymer wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. I myself have a cable provider at home that I use. And I find it quite frustrating to call and report

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 18 Aug 2011 10:21:57 PDT, Mark Keymer said: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. If I was busy with something mission-critical for work, the data center is 15 minutes from where I live. If I was

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Jay Nakamura
Is it just me that has a hard time reading a paragraph when there and their are misused? Anyway, one time, I had a problem with a DSL line with ATT, which had a trouble ticket from a storm taking down the connection and they had to replace a card somewhere. They said it was fixed but it wasn't

RE: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Eric Wieling
Obligatory xkcd http://xkcd.com/806/ -Original Message- From: Jay Nakamura [mailto:zeusda...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2011 2:06 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down? Anyway, one time, I had a problem with a DSL line with ATT, which

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Harry Hoffman
it's just you... most of us can use contaxt to know what the person actually meant ;-) On 08/18/2011 02:05 PM, Jay Nakamura wrote: Is it just me that has a hard time reading a paragraph when there and their are misused?

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread mikea
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 02:09:03PM -0400, Eric Wieling wrote: Obligatory xkcd http://xkcd.com/806/ Damn, that's _fine_! -- Mike Andrews, W5EGO mi...@mikea.ath.cx Tired old sysadmin

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Jeff Johnstone
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Mark Keymer m...@viviotech.net wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. snip I know we have a wide range of people here some of which work for my Home ISP. and would

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread mikea
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 11:17:07AM -0700, Jeff Johnstone wrote: On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Mark Keymer m...@viviotech.net wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. snip I know we have a wide

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Paul
On 08/18/2011 07:21 AM, Mark Keymer wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. I myself have a cable provider at home that I use. And I find it quite frustrating to call and report issues in there network,

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Landon Stewart
On 18 August 2011 10:21, Mark Keymer m...@viviotech.net wrote: I myself have a cable provider at home that I use. And I find it quite frustrating to call and report issues in there network, because the people in the call center have you do the same things every time and are not very

Re: IPv6 version of www.qwest.com/www.centurylink.com has been down for 10 days

2011-08-18 Thread Owen DeLong
On Aug 18, 2011, at 4:47 AM, Leigh Porter wrote: -Original Message- From: Frank Bulk [mailto:frnk...@iname.com] Sent: 18 August 2011 06:36 To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: IPv6 version of www.qwest.com/www.centurylink.com has been down for 10 days The IPv6 version of

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread John Adams
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 10:21 AM, Mark Keymer m...@viviotech.net wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. I have a couple of solutions to this problem. 1) I've got a backup Verizon 4G LTE modem giving

Search ISP at NYC

2011-08-18 Thread Olivier CALVANO
Hello, I throw a bottle into the sea ... We are looking for our implantation in the United States a partner based at New York City. An ISP or a company operating in the networks and if possible with a network (ASN, IP, Datacenter Space in ..) We would take a minority or majority in this partner

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Alex Brooks
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 6:21 PM, Mark Keymer m...@viviotech.net wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. Ooh, heck. I'm going through this at the moment. I noticed a website that doesn't load some of

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Owen DeLong
I multi home instead… It works great! Owen On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:39 AM, Ariel Biener wrote: On 08/18/2011 08:30 PM, PC wrote: $big_national_ISP? Well, most problems I see are major and not just routing to one other ISP. My solution? Pull out the smartphone and tether if I really need

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Owen DeLong
On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:44 AM, Jon Lewis wrote: On Thu, 18 Aug 2011, Mark Keymer wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. I myself have a cable provider at home that I use. And I find it quite

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread -Hammer-
I turn off Halo and go to bed. Holy cow there's a woman there! -Hammer- I was a normal American nerd -Jack Herer On 08/18/2011 12:21 PM, Mark Keymer wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. I myself

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Fred Baker
On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Mark Keymer wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. I'm on Cox Business Services, a Cable Modem network. The bad news: I pay more for less bandwidth. The good news: I

RE: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Tim
I remember when I used to use our cable company for internet. It sucked. I had business service from them and everytime any issue would occur(even if is a routing issue like you mentioned) they want to reboot the modem, computer, etc and end the call with would you like us to dispatch someone to

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Gary Buhrmaster
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 18:09, Eric Wieling ewiel...@nyigc.com wrote: Obligatory xkcd http://xkcd.com/806/ Obligatory dilbert: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gc2Ks3lQew8 (the first part regarding tech support)

RE: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Greg Smythe
I agree, ATT DSL support won't help me unless I remove my Cisco 1721 and re-connect their crappy modem I was forced to buy, even though with the debugging on the Cisco I can tell them exactly what's going on. (Small rant -- Why won't ATT offer symetric DSL for business customers??) (Long-time

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Franck Martin
Report the problem on Twitter or Facebook. It is a common issue that support staff go via a scripted process. You can play, I'm the IT manager of a fortune 500 company, to see if they still consider you as a luddite, but really your only option is to either try to escalate the call (talk to

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Justin Scott
I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. If my primary connection is down, I switch to my backup. At one office we have both Comcast cable and Verizon FiOS so if one is out, we just switch to the other. It's

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org It can be frustrating talking to their frontline people, but unless you have contacts there in network engineering, what else are you going to do? I just want to put in a tip o' the hat here to the BHN/RoadRunner *business* support

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Nick Olsen
- Original Message - From: Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org It can be frustrating talking to their frontline people, but unless you have contacts there in network engineering, what else are you going to do? I just want to put in a tip o' the hat here to the BHN/RoadRunner

Announcement of University of Washington routing study

2011-08-18 Thread Ethan Katz-Bassett
Hi NANOG, From August 24 to October 4, the University of Washington and Georgia Tech will conduct an Internet routing study using AS-PATH poisoning. The study will *only* affect the Georgia Tech experimental prefix 184.164.224.0/19(and its sub-prefixes). The prefix serves *no active

Re: IPv6 version of www.qwest.com/www.centurylink.com has been down for 10 days

2011-08-18 Thread Matthew Moyle-Croft
On 19/08/2011, at 4:18 AM, Owen DeLong wrote: It'd really suck for end users to start actively avoiding IPv6 connectivity because it keeps breaking and for organisations that have active records to break peoples connectivity to their resources. +1 -- I'm all for publishing records

Re: Announcement of University of Washington routing study

2011-08-18 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On behalf of the community, if I may be so bold (and I'm sure others will speak up if they disagree), thank you for the notice of this experiment. Also, thank you for doing the research. -- TTFN, patrick On Aug 18, 2011, at 19:32, Ethan Katz-Bassett et...@cs.washington.edu wrote: Hi NANOG,

Re: What do you do when your Home ISP is down?

2011-08-18 Thread Phil Dyer
On Thu, Aug 18, 2011 at 1:21 PM, Mark Keymer m...@viviotech.net wrote: I am wondering what some of you guys do when your home ISP is down. At least those of you that don't give yourself internet. read? phil

RE: IPv6 version of www.qwest.com/www.centurylink.com has been down for 10 days

2011-08-18 Thread Frank Bulk
FYI, the issue is not resolved and I've not heard from either of the companies suggesting that they're working on it. Note their commitment to IPv6 in these releases: http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/centurylink-joins-internet-community -in-world-ipv6-day-123089908.html