Re: Whois 172/12

2012-01-15 Thread Leigh Porter
On 15 Jan 2012, at 07:39, Ted Fischer t...@fred.net wrote: Hi all, Tearing what's left of my hair out. A customer is getting scanned by a host claiming to be 172.0.1.216. I know this is bogus, but I want to go back to the customer with as much authoritative umph as I can (heaven

Re: Whois 172/12

2012-01-15 Thread Ted Fischer
Thanks for the replies so far, but not what I was looking for. I should have specified that I've done several ns dig lookups just to make sure. We were supposed to have lit up the last of IPv4 last year. I would have presumed that meant that there was nothing left. Since I can't find a

Re: Whois 172/12

2012-01-15 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Jesus. 172.16/12 fine .. that's rfc1918. The rest of 172/8 is mostly unallocated. On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 1:28 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: Read RFC1918. Likely a machine on his local network (i.e. behind the same NAT box) is hitting him. But that is not guaranteed.  A

Re: Whois 172/12

2012-01-15 Thread Robert Bonomi
From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Sun Jan 15 02:02:00 2012 Subject: Re: Whois 172/12 From: Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 02:58:11 -0500 To: NANOG list nanog@nanog.org Read RFC1918. Likely a machine on his local network (i.e. behind the

Re: Whois 172/12

2012-01-15 Thread bmanning
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 06:36:12AM -0600, Robert Bonomi wrote: From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org Sun Jan 15 02:02:00 2012 Subject: Re: Whois 172/12 From: Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 02:58:11 -0500 To: NANOG list nanog@nanog.org

Re: Whois 172/12

2012-01-15 Thread Jon Lewis
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012 bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: so as a stylistic point, 172/12 is supposed to equal 172.0.0.0/12? Yeah...it's pretty common to drop the zeros when talkind CIDR. if memory serves, back in the day, there were records of allocations in this space,

Re: Whois 172/12

2012-01-15 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jan 15, 2012, at 7:36 AM, Robert Bonomi wrote: I'v read RFC-1918. I cannot find *any* reference to 172.0/12, as the OP was asking about. 172.16/12, yes. but not 172.0/12. Can you please clarify your advice? My advice is not to post when you are tired. :) -- TTFN, patrick

Re: Whois 172/12

2012-01-15 Thread Alex Ryu
Similar to 1.0.0.0/8 case, which was allocated to APNIC last year or so... On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 6:47 AM, bmann...@vacation.karoshi.com wrote: On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 06:36:12AM -0600, Robert Bonomi wrote: From nanog-bounces+bonomi=mail.r-bonomi@nanog.org  Sun Jan 15 02:02:00 2012

RE: Whois 172/12

2012-01-15 Thread Network IP Dog
quoteJesus. 172.16/12 fine .. that's rfc1918. The rest of 172/8 is mostly unallocated./quote What's with the language? Ephesians 4:32Cheers!!! -Original Message- From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:ops.li...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 12:35 AM To: Patrick W.

Re: Monday Night Footbal -- on Google?

2012-01-15 Thread Mark Tinka
On Thursday, January 12, 2012 12:06:42 PM Jay Ashworth wrote: I'm not saying you need the whole 19mbps (though, remember here, we are not talking about Additional Carriage; we are talking about *being the only way people can see that game* -- and my example was the Super Bowl).. but unless

Re: Whois 172/12

2012-01-15 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
So kind, compassionate and forgiving that I'll buy Patrick a beer when I see him next, its been a long time. --srs On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 9:46 PM, Network IP Dog network.ip...@gmail.com wrote: quoteJesus. 172.16/12 fine .. that's rfc1918.   The rest of 172/8 is mostly unallocated./quote

Re: Whois 172/12

2012-01-15 Thread Jay Moran
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 8:54 AM, Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org wrote: AOL has and uses (publicly) a bunch of space in 172/8. In fact, looking at a BGP table, I'd say they're by far the largest user (one of the only) in that /8. We, AOL, have 172.128/10, 172.192/12, 172.208/13, 172.216/16.

accessing multiple devices via a script

2012-01-15 Thread Abdullah Al-Malki
Hi fellows, I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem. Sometimes I want to access my customer network and want to extract some verification output show commands from a large number of devices. What kind of scripting solutions you guys are using this case.

Re: accessing multiple devices via a script

2012-01-15 Thread Phil Regnauld
Abdullah Al-Malki (a.almalki1402) writes: Hi fellows, I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem. Sometimes I want to access my customer network and want to extract some verification output show commands from a large number of devices. What kind of scripting

Re: accessing multiple devices via a script

2012-01-15 Thread Joel jaeggli
On 1/15/12 09:56 , Phil Regnauld wrote: Abdullah Al-Malki (a.almalki1402) writes: Hi fellows, I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem. Sometimes I want to access my customer network and want to extract some verification output show commands from a large number

Re: accessing multiple devices via a script

2012-01-15 Thread Justin Krejci
Parallel ssh (pssh) might help you too --Original Message-- From: Abdullah Al-Malki To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: accessing multiple devices via a script Sent: Jan 15, 2012 11:52 AM Hi fellows, I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem. Sometimes I want to

Re: accessing multiple devices via a script

2012-01-15 Thread Kurth Bemis
On Sun, 2012-01-15 at 18:56 +0100, Phil Regnauld wrote: Abdullah Al-Malki (a.almalki1402) writes: Hi fellows, I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem. Sometimes I want to access my customer network and want to extract some verification output show commands

RE: Whois 172/12

2012-01-15 Thread Keith Medcalf
As port 137 is the Netbios Name Service port are you *sure* this is a port scan and not a windows box (or other OS running NetBIOS crud) that simply has fat-fingered addresses configured? --- ()  ascii ribbon campaign against html e-mail /\  www.asciiribbon.org -Original Message-

Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 48, Issue 41

2012-01-15 Thread Scot Loach
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OpenTransit contact needed

2012-01-15 Thread Meftah Tayeb
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Re: NANOG Digest, Vol 48, Issue 41

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Re: accessing multiple devices via a script

2012-01-15 Thread Rhys Rhaven
I do this with cluster-ssh, as in some networks I have a generic script-daemon login that use to log into them all simultaneously. cssh uses tk and xterm, so its a bit long in the tooth. New hotness to do this is something like keyboardcast, which can broadcast keyboard input to however many

Re: Monday Night Footbal -- on Google?

2012-01-15 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-01-11 17:45 -0500), Justin M. Streiner wrote: If multicast is used it shouldn't take 150pbps, it should be much lower. That could be one of the things that helps spur v6 adoption - multicast being somewhat less of an afterthought :) While v4 multicast works, and delivering video

RE: accessing multiple devices via a script

2012-01-15 Thread Chuck Reynolds
Hi Abdullah - Have you seen the new Resource Manager product from QualiSystems? It has this capability built into it and out of the box to support large numbers of devices. Let me know off line where you are located and I can hook you up. Regards, Chuck -Original Message- From:

enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Ken King
I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones. we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office space. what are the thoughts these days on the best enterprise solution/vendor? Thanks

Re: Whois 172/12

2012-01-15 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012, Ted Fischer wrote: Thanks for the replies so far, but not what I was looking for. I should have specified that I've done several ns dig lookups just to make sure. We were supposed to have lit up the last of IPv4 last year. I would have presumed that meant that there was

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Meftah Tayeb
Ubiquity or ubikity, maybe is miss spelled Someone correct the spelling for him please thank you - Original Message - From: Ken King kk...@yammer-inc.com To: nanog@nanog.org Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 9:30 PM Subject: enterprise 802.11 I need to choose a wireless solution for a

Re: accessing multiple devices via a script

2012-01-15 Thread Rhys Rhaven
Is full disclosure expected on NANOG, or is it just polite? Like mentioning that Chuck Reynolds is a salesman for QualiSystems, and not just another network operator passing on what they might think will help? On 01/15/2012 01:21 PM, Chuck Reynolds wrote: Hi Abdullah - Have you seen the new

Re: Monday Night Footbal -- on Google?

2012-01-15 Thread Antonio Querubin
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012, Saku Ytti wrote: This is misguided, IPV6 does no magic to help scale multicast to Internet scale compared to IPV4. Actually, IPv6 embedded RP improves scalability over IPv4 MSDP peering and ASM. -- Antonio Querubin e-mail: t...@lavanauts.org xmpp:

Re: accessing multiple devices via a script

2012-01-15 Thread Shahab Vahabzadeh
Like Rhys Rhaven. On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Rhys Rhaven r...@rhavenindustrys.comwrote: Is full disclosure expected on NANOG, or is it just polite? Like mentioning that Chuck Reynolds is a salesman for QualiSystems, and not just another network operator passing on what they might think

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Mike Lyon
Ubiquity (www.ubnt.com) has their Unifi line of products. It's still pretty new in the marketspace and this, working out the bugs. I use their other products exclusively for outdoor wireless. However, in the offices ive done, ive used Cisco's WLC 4402 controller which supports 12 access points.

Re: Monday Night Footbal -- on Google?

2012-01-15 Thread Saku Ytti
On (2012-01-15 09:47 -1000), Antonio Querubin wrote: This is misguided, IPV6 does no magic to help scale multicast to Internet scale compared to IPV4. Actually, IPv6 embedded RP improves scalability over IPv4 MSDP peering and ASM. Unfortunately that does exactly nothing to help with

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Mike Hale
Cisco's wireless solutions are pretty badass. The APs I've used are absolutely rock solid. Set up will take a bit of time, but once you're done, maintenance is minimal. On Jan 15, 2012 11:54 AM, Mike Lyon mike.l...@gmail.com wrote: Ubiquity (www.ubnt.com) has their Unifi line of products. It's

Re: accessing multiple devices via a script

2012-01-15 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Sun, 15 Jan 2012, Rhys Rhaven wrote: Is full disclosure expected on NANOG, or is it just polite? Like mentioning that Chuck Reynolds is a salesman for QualiSystems, and not just another network operator passing on what they might think will help? I think it's reasonable to expect that

Re: accessing multiple devices via a script

2012-01-15 Thread Rhys Rhaven
Pseudonyms and declaring conflicts of interest are two separate things. On 01/15/2012 01:48 PM, Shahab Vahabzadeh wrote: Like Rhys Rhaven. On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:12 PM, Rhys Rhaven r...@rhavenindustrys.com mailto:r...@rhavenindustrys.com wrote: Is full disclosure expected on NANOG,

RE: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
Ubiquiti's Unifi products are decent, and have *MUCH* improved since their original release (amazing what you can do with better code!). In the original release, you had to have a management server running on the same L2 network as the Aps - they've moved the management to a L3 model so you

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Seth Mos
Hi, We chose the 3Com, now H3C wx3012 controller and AP9552 accesspoints. Initial issues where that blackberries could not connect to the wifi, the support initially was mediocre. Do note that this was at the time that everything got sold to HP. And they did pick up the issue and came around

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Leigh Porter
I use ruckus in town and city installs and despite rather a lot of other APs it performs very well. I don't have experience of them in high connected station density though. -- Leigh Porter On 15 Jan 2012, at 19:33, Ken King kk...@yammer-inc.com wrote: I need to choose a wireless solution

Re: OSS Systems

2012-01-15 Thread Shahab Vahabzadeh
Hi there again, I think Leigh is not available this week, anybody else idea about such a system? Which loadbalancer is good to use? LVS or hardware one? or radius as a proxy? How database must be placed? How radius servers talk to DB? And which radius server you suggest? Radiator? Thanks On Fri,

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Rafael Rodriguez
I'd recommend Aruba. Not a fan of the Cisco wifi controller gear. On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Ken King kk...@yammer-inc.com wrote: I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones. we can see hundreds

RE: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Network IP Dog
Meraki... ;^) http://www.meraki.com/ Ephesians 4:32Cheers!!! -Original Message- From: Ken King [mailto:kk...@yammer-inc.com] Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 11:31 AM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: enterprise 802.11 I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Meftah Tayeb
proximity to our new office space. what are the thoughts these days on the best enterprise solution/vendor? Thanks for your replies. Ken King __ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 6797 (20120115) __ The message was checked

Re: Monday Night Footbal -- on Google?

2012-01-15 Thread Jared Mauch
On Jan 15, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Saku Ytti wrote: Unfortunately that does exactly nothing to help with Internet scale. Now scaling for your local environment embedded RP might be beneficial, but actual practical applications where you need ASM are very few. Most vendors took out hardware

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Shahab Vahabzadeh
Any body tried Proxim ORiNOCO AP-8000, I have them in two airport and they really sucks ;) On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:00 PM, Ken King kk...@yammer-inc.com wrote: I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile

RE: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Joe Johnson
Meraki... ;^) Seconded! Joe Johnson Chief Information Officer Riverside Consulting Group, Ltd. Innovative Technology Solutions 365 Addison Road Riverside, Illinois 60546 Phone: 708.442.6033 x3456 Fax: 708.443.4496 j...@riversidecg.com www.riversidecg.com

Re: Monday Night Footbal -- on Google?

2012-01-15 Thread Cameron Byrne
On Jan 15, 2012 1:40 PM, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net wrote: On Jan 15, 2012, at 2:56 PM, Saku Ytti wrote: Unfortunately that does exactly nothing to help with Internet scale. Now scaling for your local environment embedded RP might be beneficial, but actual practical applications

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Stefan
+1 f/Aruba ... and check out the BlackHat conferences, also. On Jan 15, 2012 3:31 PM, Rafael Rodriguez packetjoc...@gmail.com wrote: I'd recommend Aruba. Not a fan of the Cisco wifi controller gear. On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:30 PM, Ken King kk...@yammer-inc.com wrote: I need to choose a

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Brent Jones
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Ken King kk...@yammer-inc.com wrote: I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones. we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office space.

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Scott Bethke
On Jan 15, 2012, at 4:44 PM, Joe Johnson wrote: Meraki... ;^) Seconded! I'd like to stick my neck out for Meraki also.. They rock. -Scott

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Greg Ihnen
Since we're already top-posting… I've heard a lot of talk on the WISPA (wireless ISP) forum that 802.11g/n starts to fall apart with more than 30 clients associated if they're all reasonably active. I believe this is a limitation of 802.11g/n's media access control (MAC) mechanism, regardless

Re: OSS Systems

2012-01-15 Thread khatfield
My personal opinion has been that we have seen great success in large environments with FreeRadius and using radrelay for mysql synchronization then an OpenLDAP-backend. We used FreeBSD/CARP and/or FreeVRRPd for failover but this can be accomplished in other methods. FreeRadius has a built-in

Re: accessing multiple devices via a script

2012-01-15 Thread James Michael Keller
On 01/15/2012 12:52 PM, Abdullah Al-Malki wrote: Hi fellows, I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem. Sometimes I want to access my customer network and want to extract some verification output show commands from a large number of devices. What kind of scripting

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread David Casey
I like Cisco's WLC's as well. Where I am working we have a few hundred AP's at one of our sites with WLC's running the show. The 5500 controllers with CleanAir AP's is awesome. Dave Sent from my iPad On Jan 15, 2012, at 12:57, Mike Hale eyeronic.des...@gmail.com wrote: Cisco's wireless

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Jonathan Lassoff
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com wrote: Since we're already top-posting… I've heard a lot of talk on the WISPA (wireless ISP) forum that 802.11g/n starts to fall apart with more than 30 clients associated if they're all reasonably active. I believe this is a

RE: accessing multiple devices via a script

2012-01-15 Thread Blake T. Pfankuch
I have been using PLINK (putty's lesser known sibling) scripts for some of our smaller customers to execute information gathering before a project in case of excellent documentation. I can usually whip up a script in a few minutes to get sh ru, sh ver and sh diag from 20 devices. Also been

Re: accessing multiple devices via a script

2012-01-15 Thread Dale Shaw
Hi Abdullah, On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 4:52 AM, Abdullah Al-Malki a.almalki1...@gmail.com wrote: I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem. Sometimes I want to access my customer network and want to extract some verification output show commands from a large number

Re: accessing multiple devices via a script

2012-01-15 Thread Rafael Rodriguez
If your looking for something interactive, check out Mr. CLI Sent from my iPhone On Jan 15, 2012, at 12:52, Abdullah Al-Malki a.almalki1...@gmail.com wrote: Hi fellows, I am supporting a big service provider and sometimes I face this problem. Sometimes I want to access my customer network

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Justin Krejci
No one has mentioned Belair yet? Serves the Minneapolis network pretty well. http://www.belairnetworks.com/ -Original Message- From: Greg Ihnen os10ru...@gmail.com Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2012 19:06:26 To: Nathan Eisenbergnat...@atlasnetworks.us Cc: nanog@nanog.orgnanog@nanog.org Subject:

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Roy
On 1/15/2012 11:30 AM, Ken King wrote: I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 devices will connect. most devices are mac books and mobile phones. we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office space. what are the thoughts these days on the

RE: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Nathan Eisenberg
Making APs as low power and local as possible is good advice ^ Ignoring this advice is one of the biggest mistakes people make. They think Oh, I'll just drown out the noise, but the problem is almost never how well the clients can see the AP - it's the AP seeing the clients. It's hard to

Re: enterprise 802.11

2012-01-15 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 21:30, Ken King kk...@yammer-inc.com wrote: I need to choose a wireless solution for a new office. up to 600 devices will connect.  most devices are mac books and mobile phones. we can see hundreds of access points in close proximity to our new office space. what

Re: Monday Night Footbal -- on Google?

2012-01-15 Thread Ryan Gelobter
It will be at least 9-10 years before Google could bid. I think the TV networks get a chance to renew before anyone else can even bid. Unless the NFL decides to do something with the NFL Network games they are likely SOL. ESPN renewed their MNF contract through 2021.