Re: abha ahuja

2012-10-21 Thread Fred Baker (fred)

On Oct 20, 2012, at 3:41 PM, Randy Bush wrote:

 abha ahuja died this day in 2001.  wonderful person, good netizen, good
 researcher.  sigh.

Yes. She is missed.




Re: Please, talk me down.

2012-10-21 Thread Leen Besselink
On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 09:45:09PM -0500, Jimmy Hess wrote:
 On 10/16/12, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
  First off, I'm using djbdns internally and it doesn't support 
  records. So we really aren't using it internally.
  if the clutch in my car is broken, should i stop using vehicles?
  dump djbdns or get some diehard to tell you how to fix it.
 
 Ah, but the clutch is not actually broken;  it works perfectly,  and
 it is a very robust clutch, not likely to break,  it's just that the
 car was designed,  so you need a wrench with you while at all times
 while driving, to actuate the clutch,  and you need a screwdriver
 onhand as well to adjust gears.They have a raw record format,
 that allows you to enter a raw record into your tinydns data file,
 containing anything, including  data.
 
 However, djbdns also lacks support for DNSSEC validation.  the stock
 package 1.05,  when installed on a 64-bit OS, contained an unpatched
 security vulnerability.
 

If Joseph really likes to use the TinyDNS database so much there is an 
experimental
PowerDNS backend of supposedly there is even an even more DNSSEC-patch 
somewhere.

I can't find the patch right now, but it was mentioned in a presentation by the
head developer at ICANN44:

http://prague44.icann.org/node/31749

Here it the audio recording:

http://audio.icann.org/meetings/prague2012/dnssec-workshop-27jun12-en.mp3 (135 
MB)

His presentation starts at: 3:32:18

He mentions it at: 3:46:53

And the PDF of his presentation is here:

http://prague44.icann.org/meetings/prague2012/presentation-dnssec-power-dns-27jun12-en.pdf

I don't expect anyone is using patch in production right now.

 The car was also designed with no electric ignition switch, and no
 headlights.   You want to start your car, you need a manual crank.
 It's good enough;  but  probably the time comes soon to retire it.
 
 Electronic ignitions and headlights became the 'standard' a long time
 ago,  but the car design was never improved to include the features
 (not necessarily an easy feat) --meanwhile,the person in
 charge of maintaining the design;   spent  many hours writing  essays
 about   the problem of light pollution caused by headlights,
 insisting that road lights instead would be better,and  calling up
 issues about  the extra  weight and space required for batteries,
 danger of  batteries leaking,  or failing,  leaving motorists
 stranded,   etc,
 thus spending time  not updating the design to incorporate beneficial,
 new standards.
 
 
  randy
 -- 
 -JH
 

Have a nice day,
Leen.



Re: Please, talk me down.

2012-10-21 Thread Jay Mitchell
On 18/10/2012, at 7:44 AM, Nicolai nicolai-na...@chocolatine.org wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 03:35:11AM +, Joseph Anthony Pasquale Holsten 
 wrote:
 
 First off, I'm using djbdns internally and it doesn't support 
 records. So we really aren't using it internally.
 
 I assume you mean stock djbdns doesn't support ip6, because it doesindeed 
 support  records.  I use both dnscache and tinydns from
 djbdns and  records work fine for me.  Note: I'm not using Felix von
 Leitner's ip6 patch.
 
 $ dig  chocolatine.org +short
 2610:130:103:e00:201:2ff:fe45:8308
 
 Resolver is dnscache, authoritate server is tinydns.  No problem.
 
 I think the problem you're experiencing, if there is one, is not related
 to either djbdns or ip6.
 
 Nicolai
 



Re: Please, talk me down.

2012-10-21 Thread Jay Mitchell
Apologies for the empty reply, mobile typo machine at work :( 

On 18/10/2012, at 7:44 AM, Nicolai nicolai-na...@chocolatine.org wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 03:35:11AM +, Joseph Anthony Pasquale Holsten 
 wrote:
 
 First off, I'm using djbdns internally and it doesn't support 
 records. So we really aren't using it internally.
 
 I assume you mean stock djbdns doesn't support ip6, because it does
 indeed support  records.  

Actually, it doesn't, as you so kindly pointed out. It does WITH a patch.

 I use both dnscache and tinydns from
 djbdns and  records work fine for me.  Note: I'm not using Felix von
 Leitner's ip6 patch.
 
Thanks for pointing that out, finally.

 $ dig  chocolatine.org +short
 2610:130:103:e00:201:2ff:fe45:8308
 
 Resolver is dnscache, authoritate server is tinydns.  No problem.
 
 I think the problem you're experiencing, if there is one, is not related
 to either djbdns or ip6.
 
For real? Go figure.
 Nicolai
 



Re: abha ahuja

2012-10-21 Thread Eric Aupperle
Very sad indeed. She contributed much to the net and Merit.

On Oct 20, 2012, at 6:41 PM, Randy Bush wrote:

 abha ahuja died this day in 2001.  wonderful person, good netizen, good
 researcher.  sigh.
 




Re: Please, talk me down.

2012-10-21 Thread Nicolai
On Sun, Oct 21, 2012 at 10:09:24PM +1100, Jay Mitchell wrote:
 On 18/10/2012, at 7:44 AM, Nicolai nicolai-na...@chocolatine.org wrote:

  I assume you mean stock djbdns doesn't support ip6, because it does
  indeed support  records.  
 
 Actually, it doesn't, as you so kindly pointed out. It does WITH a patch.

No.  djbdns 1.05 supports  records as anyone can verify.  To make
sure myself I just downloaded stock djbdns from the cr.yp.to website,
installed, and ran some  queries.  Works as it always has.

$ dig  he.net +short
2001:470:0:76::2

That's an unpatched, stock dnscache.  John Levine already described in
this thread how tinydns supports  records, so there's no point going
over it again.

I only responded to this thread to correct misinformation.  sigh

As an aside, you may want to fix your DNS, as some mail receivers don't
like this:

$ dig -x 72.249.91.101 +short
static.serversandhosting.com.
$ dig a static.serversandhosting.com +short
72.249.3.27

Nicolai



RE: Please, talk me down.

2012-10-21 Thread Keith Medcalf
 As an aside, you may want to fix your DNS, as some mail receivers don't
 like this:

 $ dig -x 72.249.91.101 +short
 static.serversandhosting.com.
 $ dig a static.serversandhosting.com +short
 72.249.3.27

What is really meant to be said is that MTA's which require RFC compliance 
won't talk to you.  Running an MTA which requires minimal RFC compliance 
(particularly in respect of DNS configuration) eliminates 98% of spam.

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Re: Please, talk me down.

2012-10-21 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Keith Medcalf kmedc...@dessus.com wrote:

 What is really meant to be said is that MTA's which require RFC compliance 
 won't talk to you.  Running an MTA which requires minimal RFC compliance 
 (particularly in respect of DNS configuration) eliminates 98% of spam.

I wish it were that easy.

-- 
Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.li...@gmail.com)



Re: Please, talk me down.

2012-10-21 Thread Mark Andrews

In message 83452cbbe5c3c5439212c8a56346b...@mail.dessus.com, Keith Medcalf 
writes:
  As an aside, you may want to fix your DNS, as some mail receivers don't
  like this:
  
  $ dig -x 72.249.91.101 +short
  static.serversandhosting.com.
  $ dig a static.serversandhosting.com +short
  72.249.3.27
 
 What is really meant to be said is that MTA's which require RFC compliance =
 won't talk to you.  Running an MTA which requires minimal RFC compliance (p=
 articularly in respect of DNS configuration) eliminates 98% of spam.

Standards track RFC compliance REQUIRES that you ACCEPT email from that box.
There is no standards track RFC that requires that PTR records exist.
There is no standards track RFC that requires that PTR and address
records are consistent.  It is however good practice that these exist and
are consistent.

Mark
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1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742 INTERNET: ma...@isc.org