On (2012-11-18 23:47 +0100), Daniel Suchy wrote:
Is anyone else seeing similar problems with Google/Youtube?
My advice is, host the content locally.
Certain Finnish domestic SPs had issues with youtube during peak hours for
years, when content came via Stockholm, if content came from mainland
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On Nov 19, 2012, at 03:05 , Saku Ytti s...@ytti.fi wrote:
On (2012-11-18 23:47 +0100), Daniel Suchy wrote:
Is anyone else seeing similar problems with Google/Youtube?
My advice is, host the content locally.
Sound advice, IMHO.
I'm bit curious about market position youtube has. GOOG
On (2012-11-19 08:27 -0500), Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
Second, I see no reason why that requires anything close - not even within a
couple orders of magnitude - of 10% of the Internet's revenue to be
profitable. Why would you assume such a thing?
Agreed, 10% of Internet's revenue would be
In a message written on Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:59:22PM +0200, Saku Ytti wrote:
What I'm trying to say, I can't see youtube generating anywhere nearly
enough revenue who shift 10% (or more) of Internet. And to explain this
conundrum to myself, I've speculated accounting magic (which I'd frown
Hi,
The service provider(s) pipe that takes all web traffic from my laptop to
the central servers (assume youtube) remain same whether i take a 4Mbps or
a 25Mbps connection from my service provider. This means that the internet
connection that i take from my service provider only affects the last
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Glen Kent wrote:
The question then is that how does going for a higher BW connection from
the service provider help?
That is like asking if a 600 bhp car is 6 times better than a 100 bhp car.
I'd say you definitely can benefit in surfing speed etc up to somewhere
5-15
From the latest csco prime presentation it appears it offers similar
functionality in one of the modules that one can buy to it so that providers
can have a sneak peak on these type of data in order to sell them to third
parties
Though I wouldn't even know whom to sell such information
Nor have I
It's all about if the bandwidth is there to use.
I'm sure every youtube caching server has a connection which exceeds
4Mb/s.
How does a faster connection help? It allows the video to fill the buffer
faster. Allowing for smoother playback on less bandwidth consistent
circuits. Do you need it
For some providers this might be an interesting revenue stream in these days
where we need to build ever faster backbones to carry more and more video
traffic for users that want to pay less and less for high-speed internet
connectivity
adam
-Original Message-
From: Adam Vitkovsky
On (2012-11-19 06:30 -0800), Leo Bicknell wrote:
Consider a different model. Google checks out your gmail account, and
discovers you really like Red Bull and from your YouTube profile knows
you watch a lot of Ke$ha videos. It also discovers there are a lot more
Sure. I have no doubt the
Bonjour à tous,
Quelqu'un d'Orange (ou autre) pourrait-il me donner plus d'info sur les
plages d'adresses suivantes:
inetnum:81.253.0.0 - 81.253.95.255
netname:ORANGE-FRANCE-HSIAB
descr: Orange France / Wanadoo service
country:FR
admin-c:AR10027-RIPE
On 11/19/12 5:59 AM, Saku Ytti wrote:
What I'm trying to say, I can't see youtube generating anywhere nearly
enough revenue who shift 10% (or more) of Internet. And to explain
this conundrum to myself, I've speculated accounting magic (which I'd
frown upon) and leveraging market position to
Hi,
I think few people understand French on this list. You should try FRnOG.
Pierre-Yves Maunier
Le 19 novembre 2012 17:48, jipe foo fooj...@gmail.com a écrit :
Bonjour à tous,
Quelqu'un d'Orange (ou autre) pourrait-il me donner plus d'info sur les
plages d'adresses suivantes:
inetnum:
Pourquoi demandez-vous des questions NANOG que Wanadoo peut répondre?
Hopefully google translate hasn't butchered that too badly.
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Pierre-Yves Maunier wrote:
Hi,
I think few people understand French on this list. You should try FRnOG.
Pierre-Yves Maunier
Le 19
Actually, this is kind of an interesting aside. Last time I checked, Canada
counts as North America and large parts of Quebec are inhabited by folks who
don't speak much, if any, English. Having said that, I can't recall having
seen any Quebecois posting in French here, but I find it hard to
Il serait mieux si vous contactez directement d'Orange.
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, jipe foo wrote:
Bonjour ? tous,
Quelqu'un d'Orange (ou autre) pourrait-il me donner plus d'info sur les
plages d'adresses suivantes:
inetnum:81.253.0.0 - 81.253.95.255
netname:ORANGE-FRANCE-HSIAB
On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:16 , Jamie Bowden ja...@photon.com wrote:
Actually, this is kind of an interesting aside. Last time I checked, Canada
counts as North America and large parts of Quebec are inhabited by folks who
don't speak much, if any, English. Having said that, I can't recall
IIRC, EDIS, at least,will give you large blocks and delegate reverse
DNS authority (+ assign your v6 block to your RIPE handle/info) if you ask.
On 11/18/2012 5:53 PM, Constantine A. Murenin wrote:
Dear NANOG@,
I came across an interesting problem in trying to find an affordable
KVM
Dear all,
Ron suggested I share this document in this mailing list in order to assess
whether there is interest from the nanog community to carry out this effort
within IETF. If you are supporting this effort, please voice it. Your feedback
will help Ron in making a decision to AD-sponsor this
Hi,
Anyone know what's going to inform with Youtube here in Brazil this
horrible, super slow it is already 14 days.
--
Glauber Derlland
81-3497-7250 / 81-8859-3306 / 81-4062-9207 / 11-4063-0189
INOC-DBA.br: 262792*100
www.vescnet.com.br
msn: vesc.net@hotmail. vesc@hotmail.com
Jamie Bowden ja...@photon.com a écrit sur 19/11/2012 12:16:31 PM :
Having said that, I can't recall having seen any Quebecois posting
in French here, [snip]
The intersection of Quebecois who speak only French and those who
have anything to do with networking is hopefully very close to 0.
2012/11/19 Glauber Derlland glau...@vescnet.com.br
Hi,
Anyone know what's going to inform with Youtube here in Brazil this
horrible, super slow it is already 14 days.
--
Glauber Derlland
81-3497-7250 / 81-8859-3306 / 81-4062-9207 / 11-4063-0189
INOC-DBA.br: 262792*100
WIth my limited understanding of such topics I've long been confused by
something I read a couple of years back - in an Arbor report perhaps - to
the effect that by being the originator of so much traffic, and as they
built out their own network, Google were making money on transit.
Can anyone
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 6:30 AM, Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote:
In a message written on Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 03:59:22PM +0200, Saku Ytti
wrote:
What I'm trying to say, I can't see youtube generating anywhere nearly
enough revenue who shift 10% (or more) of Internet. And to explain
I think this would be true if they offered some form of paid peering.
Google want's a good fast route to your customers, And your customers want
a good fast route to Google.
IF Google ran its transit at or near congestion. This could degrade your
customers performance. After so long, You'd
Le 19 nov. 2012 à 17:56, Pierre-Yves Maunier na...@maunier.org a écrit :
Hi,
I think few people understand French on this list. You should try FRnOG.
Ouups, of course the message was intended to FRnoOG
Sorry for the noise guys.
--
J
--- jle...@lewis.org wrote:
From: Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org
Pourquoi demandez-vous des questions NANOG que Wanadoo peut répondre?
Hopefully google translate hasn't butchered that too badly.
-
It said something about eggs? Were you
The universal translator is still a few years out it seems.
Written that way it's borderline insulting. ;-)
2012/11/19 Jon Lewis jle...@lewis.org:
Pourquoi demandez-vous des questions NANOG que Wanadoo peut répondre?
Hopefully google translate hasn't butchered that too badly.
On Mon, 19
On Nov 19, 2012, at 22:24, Ray Soucy r...@maine.edu wrote:
The universal translator is still a few years out it seems.
The universal character set is widely deployed, though.
The universal translator just can't do it's thing if people still don't manage
to send the simplest emails without
Looking for some guidance/references on the use of UPC versus APC terminations
on fiber
cabling. Traditionally we have done all of our fiber plant targeting data
usage with
UPC connectors. We are also looking at proposals for fiber distribution plant
for
video, and the possibility of using
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote:
I think this would be true if they offered some form of paid peering.
Google want's a good fast route to your customers, And your customers want
a good fast route to Google.
IF Google ran its transit at or near congestion.
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:37:05 -0500, Jeff Kell said:
The video folks are set, determined, and insistent that they need APC
terminations.
All data references I have found preach UPC.
Remember - the nozzles on unleaded gas pumps aren't interchangeable with the
ones that dispense leaded gas (if
Where I work we maintain a mix of Telecom, Data, and CATV networking.
APC is REQUIRED per many manufacturers for video. It reduces reflections of the
signal which in the video world can cause quite a few headaches and has the
potential to have severe impact on video quality.
Also, if you're
I stand corrected. That's what I get for going off memory.
Nick Olsen
Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106
From: Scott Whyte swh...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 4:48 PM
To: n...@flhsi.com
Subject: Re: Google/Youtube problems
On Mon, Nov
On Mon, 19 Nov 2012, Jeff Kell wrote:
So are we doomed to having physically separated fiber plants with
suitable connectors / jumpers dedicated to video? Anyone been down this
snaky looking path?
Yes. Someone comes up with the brilliant idea to have APC on all new
installs, people end up
Hi,
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 9:37 PM, Jeff Kell jeff-k...@utc.edu wrote:
Looking for some guidance/references on the use of UPC versus APC
terminations on fiber
cabling.
Something similar has recently been discussed on NANOG. It might be worth
having a look though that discussion as well if
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 4:37 PM, Jeff Kell jeff-k...@utc.edu wrote:
Looking for some guidance/references on the use of UPC versus APC
terminations on fiber
cabling. Traditionally we have done all of our fiber plant targeting data
usage with
UPC connectors. We are also looking at proposals
Hello,
Did anyone else experience issues with NTP today? We had our server
times update to the year 2000 at around 3:30 MT, then revert back to 2012.
Thanks,
Van
--- vanwo...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Van Wolfe vanwo...@gmail.com
Did anyone else experience issues with NTP today? We had our server
times update to the year 2000 at around 3:30 MT, then revert back to 2012.
-
You need to provide more information. For
On 11/19/12 6:32 PM, Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com wrote:
--- vanwo...@gmail.com wrote:
From: Van Wolfe vanwo...@gmail.com
Did anyone else experience issues with NTP today? We had our server
times update to the year 2000 at around 3:30 MT, then revert back to 2012.
Last May we talked at some length about municipally owned wholesale fiber,
and whether it was a commercially feasible idea.
For those who have a few minutes (I figure, it's a holiday; the Whacky Weekend
starts early :-), I'd like some advice, input, pointers, or the like, on
exactly how you *do*
--- wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote:
From: Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com
Or you could just concede the fact that the navy is playing with time travel
again.
--
To finish this thread off for the
We had the same issue on our NTP server pointing to tick.usno.navy.mil. Set
date back to year 2000.
Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2012 16:21:55 -0700
From: Van Wolfe vanwo...@gmail.commailto:vanwo...@gmail.com
To: nanog@nanog.orgmailto:nanog@nanog.org
Subject: NTP Issues Today
Message-ID:
Or you could just concede the fact that the navy is playing with time travel
again.
From my Galaxy Note II, please excuse any mistakes.
Original message
From: Scott Weeks sur...@mauigateway.com
Date: 11/19/2012 3:52 PM (GMT-08:00)
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: NTP
In message cameggd4cdqwhxqe_jbvpnr-pkke9lxqa+kzj97anhfonjwz...@mail.gmail.com
, Van Wolfe writes:
Hello,
Did anyone else experience issues with NTP today? We had our server
times update to the year 2000 at around 3:30 MT, then revert back to 2012.
Thanks,
Van
NTP should be immune from
Just got paged with a pbx alarm that had 1970 as the year. By the time I logged
in , it was showing 2012. Using GPS for time and date.
-Original Message-
From: Mark Andrews [mailto:ma...@isc.org]
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 8:42 PM
To: Van Wolfe
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re:
crossreplying to outages list.
Is anyone ELSE seeing GPS issues? This could well have been an
unrelated issue on that particular PBX.
If this was real, then the mother of all infrastructure attacks might
be underway...
One glitch on tick and tock and one malfunctioning PBX is not
sufficient
Anyone check out the NIST GPS Archive?
http://www.nist.gov/pml/div688/grp40/gpsarchive.cfm
-Mike
On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 7:58 PM, Sid Rao s...@ctigroup.com wrote:
We had multiple servers synchronized with Windows/MS time change their
clock to the year 2000 today. It broke many things,
We've always done our own fiber termination in-house using Corning Unicam
(currently Unicam Pretium) tool kits and ends. Over the years I've
dealt with fiber (primarily 62.5um mm FDDI), I've noticed that fiber seems
to come in two styles. Some lets me strip the buffer and coating easily
in
I saw this on Reddit and thought it was fascinating. I figured I'd share
it here too since no one else did.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/17/3655442/restoring-verizon-service-manhattan-hurricane-sandy
Derek
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