On Jan 12, 2013, at 8:50 PM, Andrew Latham lath...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 11:06 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote:
RIPE needs to fix on their web site:
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It doesn't have to be this way...
it should not be
The regulatory side of ITU-T is responsible for much of the damaging legacy
Telecom attitude of revenue entitlement.
I think defunding that and seeing what is developed in its place might well be
a good thing.
Owen
On Jan 12, 2013, at 9:04 PM, Fred Baker (fred) f...@cisco.com wrote:
On
On Jan 13, 2013, at 1:47 PM, Barry Shein b...@world.std.com wrote:
Even if there were no ITU we'd have to invent one, to paraphrase
Voltaire's quip about God.
There'd have to be some organization to negotiate and oversee
international settlements and other, similar, regulations.
Why?
From: Mikael Abrahamsson [mailto:swm...@swm.pp.se]
On Sat, 12 Jan 2013, Matthew Petach wrote:
Thank goodness ethernet never has problems with negotiation going
awry,
and coming up with mismatched duplexes, and vendors never had to
implement no negotiation-auto in their configs because
All,
We are running into an issue with Brocade where we are finding it difficult to
to graph VLAN interfaces for bits (in/out) across a tagged (trunk) interface.
On Cisco this is not an issue. So what we end up with in Cacti is a blank (no
data) graph.
I have been all over these devices with
Hi James,
We have been using Observium and never look back
http://www.observium.org/wiki/Main_Page
Cheers,
Edy
On 1/14/2013 10:00 PM, James Wininger wrote:
All,
We are running into an issue with Brocade where we are finding it difficult to
to graph VLAN interfaces for bits (in/out) across
On 14 Jan 2013, at 4:00 PM, James Wininger jwinin...@ifncom.net wrote:
All,
We are running into an issue with Brocade where we are finding it difficult
to to graph VLAN interfaces for bits (in/out) across a tagged (trunk)
interface. On Cisco this is not an issue. So what we end up with in
There'd have to be some organization to negotiate and oversee
international settlements and other, similar, regulations.
Why? The internet has operated just fine without such for quite some time
now.
The Internet is held together with spit and duct tape, and sucks for
connections that need a
On 14/01/2013 15:27, John Levine wrote:
The Internet does what it does surprisingly well, but it's not the
same kind of network as the phone system. We all know of the abuses
that can come with mandatory interconnection and settlements, but the
solution is not to cut off the poor countries.
On 1/14/13 9:00 , James Wininger wrote:
All,
We are running into an issue with Brocade where we are finding it difficult to
to graph VLAN interfaces for bits (in/out) across a tagged (trunk) interface.
On Cisco this is not an issue. So what we end up with in Cacti is a blank (no
data) graph.
Sneaky hack: Slap an in+out rate limit on the vlan with high settings
(i.e. same as port/lag speed) and just graph the OID of the rate limit
counter :-)
Might need to take a multiplier calculation/CDEF into account based on
the number of ports you have in the lag.
The new 8x10 cards have
I saw the same issue for getting OpenFlow stats, you need the new 8x10 or 100GE
cards afaict.
On Jan 14, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Jeroen Wunnink | Atrato IP Networks
jeroen.wunn...@atrato-ip.com wrote:
Sneaky hack: Slap an in+out rate limit on the vlan with high settings (i.e.
same as port/lag
I'm of the camp that says that, in large measure, the only beneficial
elements of international telecommunications agreements have been to
define an international band plan for the radio spectrum. That was,
afterall, the principal reason these treaties were signed, to prevent
chaos within the
A point of clarification:
On 1/14/13 7:46 PM, Wayne E Bouchard wrote:
I'm of the camp that says that, in large measure, the only beneficial
elements of international telecommunications agreements have been to
define an international band plan for the radio spectrum. That was,
afterall, the
On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
There'd have to be some organization to negotiate and oversee
international settlements and other, similar, regulations.
Why? The internet has operated just fine without such for quite some time
now.
The Internet is held
On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:12 AM, Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote:
On Jan 14, 2013, at 7:27 AM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
The solution is not to cut off the poor countries.
I have no reason whatsoever to believe that defunding the ITU would
cut off the poor countries.
Quite the
On 14/01/2013 19:23, Bill Woodcock wrote:
The ITU bleeds poor countries dry, by keeping communications costs
exorbitantly high,
Whoa. What bleeds poor countries dry is bad management of national
resources, coupled with inherent kleptocracy, massive corruption and
stifling regulation. In
On 08/01/13 9:06 AM, Ray Wong wrote:
The lack of customer service is, somewhat sadly, fairly
typical of Google's offerings. Once you get into dealings with
Google's actual business units it's a little better, but still always
a challenge to reach a human being who can actually give you straight
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 14, 2013, at 11:03 AM, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote:
On 14/01/2013 19:23, Bill Woodcock wrote:
The ITU bleeds poor countries dry, by keeping communications costs
exorbitantly high,
Whoa. What bleeds poor countries dry is bad management of national
After a careful investigation, I am of the opinion that each of the
following 18 ASNs was registered (via RIPE) with fradulent information
purporting to represent the identity of the true registrant, and that
in fact, all 18 of these ASNs were registered by a single party,
apparently as part of a
On Mon, Jan 14, 2013 at 7:27 AM, John Levine jo...@iecc.com wrote:
There'd have to be some organization to negotiate and oversee
international settlements and other, similar, regulations.
Why? The internet has operated just fine without such for quite some time
now.
The Internet is held
1. I generally agree that the Internet has too much spit and duct tape, however;
2. Siccing the ITU on that problem - or allowing them near it - would
be a disaster of a magnitude not often seen in human affairs.
No disagreement there. The Internet isn't designed to be a phone network.
On 1/14/13 11:23 AM, Bill Woodcock wrote:
... The ITU ...
How shall states determine what harms are lawfully attempted, and what
harms are not lawfully attempted? Shall there be a treaty concerning
cyber strife between states, or shall cyber strife between states
be without treaty based limits?
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 12:49 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette
r...@tristatelogic.com wrote:
After a careful investigation, I am of the opinion that each of the
following 18 ASNs was registered (via RIPE) with fradulent information
purporting to represent the identity of the true registrant, and that
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