Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

2014-08-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On Monday, August 04, 2014 04:38:39 PM Jay Ashworth wrote: So that implies he really did mean 44x GigE to end-prem, from 4 $5500 10G ports -- or, $500/home in MRC *cost* to the provider. I'm confused. With an edge router chassis filled with 10Gbps ports for various things, they quickly

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Randy Bush
you mean your vendor won't give you the knobs to do it smartly ([j]tac tickets open for five years)? wonder why. Might be useful if you mentioned what you considered a smart way to trim the fib. But then you couldn't bitch and moan about people not understanding you, which is the real

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Dorian Kim
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 01:47:20AM -0400, Dorian Kim wrote: On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 12:15:36AM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos. On Aug 13, 2014, at 22:59, Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.li...@gmail.com wrote: Swisscom or some

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Randy Bush
It was kindly pointed out to me in private that my phrasing could be misleading here. When ACL112 came into being, there were old equipment that were being protected by the /19 filters. However, the filters were in place long after those equipment were replaced. but by then it had driven

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today Date: Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 11:27:46AM -0700 Quoting Merike Kaeo (mer...@doubleshotsecurity.com): B: they *did* know about the issue, but convincing management to spend the cash to buy hardware

Re: fire ants

2014-08-14 Thread Sander Steffann
Hi Suresh, Op 13 aug. 2014, om 03:16 heeft Suresh Ramasubramanian ops.li...@gmail.com het volgende geschreven: Needs an Anthill Inside sticker like Hex at the Unseen University. I should have bought one at the Discworld Convention last weekend :) http://www.pjsmprints.com/stickers/index.html

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Owen DeLong
I believe at one point, SPRINT had in the RADB (and actively advertised) 0.0.0.0/2, 64.0.0.0/2, 128.0.0.0/2, and 192.0.0.0/2 under something called “Quarter Default Route, see Rational Default Project” or words to that effect. I could be wrong. It was a long time ago and I barely remember

Re: [HFC] pooling modems in layer2

2014-08-14 Thread Toney Mareo
Hello   Thanks for the responses, I think it clarified a lot and I already started reading this CM-SP-L2VPN-I13-140403.pdf documentation. What I need here is that existing clients are sent through ISP1 currently and I would like to add ISP2 for future clients without interfering anything with

Re: [HFC] pooling modems in layer2

2014-08-14 Thread Scott Helms
Toney, Depending on which DHCP server software you're using, its probably easier to do this kind of move with it rather than trying to build layer 2 tunnels. Since each modem MAC is added (usually) to the DHCP server you can simply run two different server instances and with the original server

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 14, 2014, at 02:36 , Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: It was kindly pointed out to me in private that my phrasing could be misleading here. When ACL112 came into being, there were old equipment that were being protected by the /19 filters. However, the filters were in place long

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
When ACL112 came into being, there were old equipment that were being protected by the /19 filters. However, the filters were in place long after those equipment were replaced. This was done for commercial reasons, not to protect the Internet. You know it, I know it, and I'm pretty sure the

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread William Herrin
On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:20 PM, Chris Woodfield rek...@semihuman.com wrote: Hence the “when programming the TCAM” part of my original statement :) Hi Chris, My point was that Randy's BGP RIB pruning knobs are missing for a different reason than your router FIB pruning knobs. Neither the

Re: Muni Fiber and Politics

2014-08-14 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Mark Tinka mark.ti...@seacom.mu On Monday, August 04, 2014 04:38:39 PM Jay Ashworth wrote: So that implies he really did mean 44x GigE to end-prem, from 4 $5500 10G ports -- or, $500/home in MRC *cost* to the provider. I'm confused. With an edge

Re: ASR9K xml agent vs netconf

2014-08-14 Thread Jared Mauch
Did cisco bother to open any DDTSes on the issues you saw? I’ve found that they care very little about these “automation” issues because they have zero automation in their lab testing that reflects how someone truly uses a device. I’ve been through many iterations with Cisco on this front

intergenia ↔ mxlogic connection issues

2014-08-14 Thread kai
Hello list, most /24 subnets from 85.25.0.0/16 network (PlusServer AG/intergenia AG) seem to be blocked on mxlogic.net inbound email servers (208.65.144.2 208.65.144.3 208.65.145.2 208.65.145.3). Could someone from both parties please check it? I tried to contact MX Logic by whois contacts

RE: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Romeo Czumbil
Nice little article http://www.bgpmon.net/what-caused-todays-internet-hiccup/ -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Randy Bush Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2014 4:43 PM To: Suresh Ramasubramanian Cc: North American Network Operators' Group

Re: Shaw routing issue 12 Aug 2014

2014-08-14 Thread Leah Ungstad
Thanks for the info Pete, Geoffrey Hugo! LU On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Pete Lumbis alum...@gmail.com wrote: Yep. Most of the time I've seen this it's two data centers, both go TCAM exception. You reboot DC1, when it comes back up you reboot DC2. This means no iBGP learned routes so

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Randy Bush
My point was that Randy's BGP RIB pruning knobs are missing for a different reason than your router FIB pruning knobs. Neither the science nor the technology exists to create Randy's BGP pruning knobs. ahhh, you dug out the [j]tac tickets, or are you just conjecturbating? if the former, ticket

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 4:57 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: My point was that Randy's BGP RIB pruning knobs are missing for a different reason than your router FIB pruning knobs. Neither the science nor the technology exists to create Randy's BGP pruning knobs. ahhh, you dug out the

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Randy Bush
ahhh, you dug out the [j]tac tickets, or are you just conjecturbating? Neither. ROFL. so just ad hominem. smart. plonk randy

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread William Herrin
On Thu, Aug 14, 2014 at 6:07 PM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: ahhh, you dug out the [j]tac tickets, or are you just conjecturbating? Neither. I'm reporting the state of the science. ROFL. so just ad hominem. smart. That phrase ad hominem, I don't think it means what you think it means.

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread vrist...@ramapo.edu
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4GLTE sm - Reply message - From: William Herrin b...@herrin.us To: Randy Bush ra...@psg.com Cc: North American Network Operators' Group nanog@nanog.org Subject: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today Date: Thu,

Re: So Philip Smith / Geoff Huston's CIDR report becomes worth a good hard look today

2014-08-14 Thread Aris Lambrianidis
I think you mean what is best described here: http://www.swinog.ch/meetings/swinog7/BGP_filtering-swinog.ppt --Aris Suresh Ramasubramanian mailto:ops.li...@gmail.com Thursday, August 14, 2014 04:59 Swisscom or some other European SP has / used to have a limit where they would not accept more