Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT]

2014-10-24 Thread Tei
I pled the Linux people to stay inside the unix philosophy to use text files. Low newbies like me learn from reading config files, and fix thing by reading log files, tryiing to make some sense of the error messages there, and using the most suspicious line as the handle to google for a solution

Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT]

2014-10-24 Thread Lamar Owen
On 10/24/2014 03:35 AM, Tei wrote: I pled the Linux people to stay inside the unix philosophy to use text files. You do realize that the systemd config files are still text, right? As to the binary journal, well, by default RHEL 7 (and rebuilds) do at least mirror the journal output to

Re: NOC Calendar

2014-10-24 Thread chris
I was looking into something like this a while back and one thing that didnt seem to exist but I thought would be cool is if you could have a x86 box or appliance that could take video output of lets say a couple virtual machines and encode it into a standard TV signal so your average TV with a

Re: inexpensive KVMoIP

2014-10-24 Thread Chip Marshall
On 2014-10-23, Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net sent: Having recently encountered a problem with a machine, I’m looking for an inexpensive KVMoIP device to place within a facility to take VGA/USB Keyboard for a single host scale. Ideally something that can be properly placed on the internet,

Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT]

2014-10-24 Thread Jim Mercer
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:41:39AM -0400, Barry Shein wrote: All those init.d scripts do about 95% the same thing, all hacked together in shell. Most of them are probably just slightly edited versions of some few paleo-scripts. in FreeBSD, the bulk of the rc.d scripts are basically the same

Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB)

2014-10-24 Thread John Sweeting
On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Danny McPherson da...@tcb.net wrote: On 2014-10-23 12:33, Christopher Morrow wrote: Sounds like you want to see the rirs make sure they get rpki work dine and widely available with the least encumbrances on the network operator community as possible. Or

Microsoft DNS issue

2014-10-24 Thread Scott Voll
we are seeing two of Microsofts DNS servers are giving out Private IP's. Any idea who to contact to get it fixed? Thanks Scott “Two of the authoritative servers for partners.extranet.microsoft.com are giving unreachable private addresses for that domain” ##Query of dns11 gives unreachable

Re: Paging someone at Savvis [AS 3561]

2014-10-24 Thread Bill Weiss
Bill Weiss(houdini+na...@clanspum.net)@Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 01:10:45PM -0500: I'd like to talk to someone with clue about open NTPd on a router of yours. Normal support channels are totally failing me. I found someone via the list. Thank you to those who reached out! -- Bill Weiss

Prefix withdrawals in Europe/Russia

2014-10-24 Thread Matthew Huff
BGPMon has been sending out alerts this morning starting around 15:14 UTC about our 129.77.0.0/16 prefix. None of our BGP peers have flapped, and according to the alert, it appears limited to: Netherlands Sweden Kuwait Italy United Kingdom Russia Liechtenstein I haven't seen anything on nanog

Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT]

2014-10-24 Thread Tim Franklin
All those init.d scripts do about 95% the same thing, all hacked together in shell. Most of them are probably just slightly edited versions of some few paleo-scripts. Set the location of the pid file, set the path of the executable, set the command line flags/options, maybe change some

Re: NOC Calendar

2014-10-24 Thread Jared Mauch
On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:38 AM, chris tknch...@gmail.com wrote: I was looking into something like this a while back and one thing that didnt seem to exist but I thought would be cool is if you could have a x86 box or appliance that could take video output of lets say a couple virtual

Re: A translation (was Re: An update from the ICANN ISPCP meeting...)

2014-10-24 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
On 10/23/14 7:27 PM, David Conrad wrote: in other words, the bc and ispc were, and for the most part, imho, remain captive properties of the intellectual property constituency. Here, Eric is suggesting the intellectual property folks are driving policy issues on behalf of the folks interested

Weekly Routing Table Report

2014-10-24 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. The posting is sent to APOPS, NANOG, AfNOG, AusNOG, SANOG, PacNOG, LacNOG, TRNOG, CaribNOG and the RIPE Routing Working Group. Daily listings are sent to

Re: Microsoft DNS issue

2014-10-24 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Replying offlist. Mehmet On Oct 24, 2014, at 10:27 AM, Scott Voll svoll.v...@gmail.com wrote: we are seeing two of Microsofts DNS servers are giving out Private IP's. Any idea who to contact to get it fixed? Thanks Scott “Two of the authoritative servers for

Re: A translation (was Re: An update from the ICANN ISPCP meeting...)

2014-10-24 Thread Barry Shein
Well, that was pure gold, David. If you didn't read it and think you might have the slightest interest in what's going on with ICANN stuff: Read It. I'll mildly dispute the point about registration services (aka WHOIS). Though I've no doubt someone out there imagines improving the quality of

IGMP (v3) older version querier timer on OSX

2014-10-24 Thread Brandon Applegate
First of all - if there is a better place to ask this, let me know. I simply want to make sure the audience has the technical chops to try to answer the question. So discussions.apple.com / macrumors are out. I’m trying to figure out how OSX is behaving with regard to downgrading sent IGMP

Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch

2014-10-24 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Barry Shein b...@world.std.com On October 21, 2014 at 13:44 brun...@nic-naa.net (Eric Brunner-Williams) wrote: systemd is insanity. see also smit. SMIT! Rhymes with For the record, smit is crazy cause AIX isn't really Unix; it's VM with a thin

Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch [OT]

2014-10-24 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - From: Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu Speaking from my own experience, the actually relevant and package-specific guts of the typical initscript could be easily replaced by a simple text configuration that simply gives: 1.) What to start 2.) When to start it

Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch

2014-10-24 Thread Jay Ashworth
Original Message - From: Jeffrey Ollie j...@ocjtech.us If that doesn't suffice, then I suspect it will only require waiting a little while until a demonstration of why monolithic integration is a bad idea will be provided by someone who is at this moment studying the

Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch

2014-10-24 Thread Jay Ashworth
- Original Message - On 22-10-2014 17:30, Jeffrey Ollie wrote: Hardly. The discussion so far has been weighted very heavily on the side of Dana Carvey's Grumpy Old Man-style whining. That's the way it was and we liked it!. The people that like systemd (like myself) have wisely

Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch

2014-10-24 Thread Chris Adams
Once upon a time, Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com said: Try to do everything *inside PID 1* is the real problem. And that is not what systemd is doing; make sure you know what you are complaining about. systemd-the-project != systemd-the-pid-1. PID 1 is responsible for managing services/daemons,

Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB)

2014-10-24 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 8:23 AM, John Sweeting john.sweet...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Danny McPherson da...@tcb.net wrote: On 2014-10-23 12:33, Christopher Morrow wrote: Sounds like you want to see the rirs make sure they get rpki work dine and widely available

The Cidr Report

2014-10-24 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Oct 24 21:14:12 2014 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/2.0 for a current version of this report. Recent Table History

BGP Update Report

2014-10-24 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 16-Oct-14 -to- 23-Oct-14 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS23752 208234 4.0%2263.4 -- NPTELECOM-NP-AS Nepal Telecommunications Corporation,

Re: ARIN / RIR Pragmatism (WAS: Re: RADB)

2014-10-24 Thread Baldur Norddahl
The RIPE IRR is secure. Why not just copy that for the other regions? Baldur

RE: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's decision to switch

2014-10-24 Thread Jeff Masiello
As lurker I just wanted to say this has been highly educational. (I'm new) -Original Message- From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of * Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2014 12:57 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Linux: concerns over systemd adoption and Debian's

Dual BGP Sessions to Comcast

2014-10-24 Thread Mike Poublon
Anyone here have experience with running redundant BGP routers on a Comcast fiber Internet link? We are getting push back from the sales and front-line implementation groups while setting up a new BGP uplink to them. I have several full-feed Internet uplinks with various other ISP's running

4.2.2.2 4.2.2.21 High Packet Loss

2014-10-24 Thread Emir Sosa
Any one else experiencing high packet loss*; *​Any word out there what's happening?​ *​Regards,Emir sosaemirs...@gmail.com emirs...@gmail.com​*

Re: 4.2.2.2 4.2.2.21 High Packet Loss

2014-10-24 Thread Rafael Possamai
Those addresses are anycasted, so you would have to do a bit of research and figure out what part of their network is having any packet loss. Here is an alternative: http://www.opennicproject.org/ On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 11:05 AM, Emir Sosa emirs...@gmail.com wrote: Any one else experiencing

Re: 4.2.2.2 4.2.2.21 High Packet Loss

2014-10-24 Thread Josh Luthman
Not really. From roughly 11:40 to 12:45 (Eastern) today there was some problem, but that's all I have. http://imgur.com/X6s58cz http://imgur.com/XGLe5Lm Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 12:05 PM, Emir Sosa

Re: A translation (was Re: An update from the ICANN ISPCP meeting...)

2014-10-24 Thread David Conrad
Barry, On Oct 24, 2014, at 12:13 PM, Barry Shein b...@world.std.com wrote: I believe this never-ending quest for more reliable domain registration data is being driven by intellectual property lawyers to lower the cost of serving those they see as infringers either by domain or web site