Re: Thousands of hosts on a gigabit LAN, maybe not

2015-05-09 Thread charles
On 2015-05-09 11:57, Baldur Norddahl wrote: The standard 48 port with 2 port uplink 1U switch is far from full depth. You put them in the back of the rack and have the small computers in the front. You might even turn the switches around, so the ports face inwards into the rack. The network

Re: Rasberry pi - high density

2015-05-09 Thread Dave Taht
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 11:55 AM, Barry Shein b...@world.std.com wrote: On May 9, 2015 at 00:24 char...@thefnf.org (char...@thefnf.org) wrote: So I just crunched the numbers. How many pies could I cram in a rack? For another list I just estimated how many M.2 SSD modules one could

RE: [probably spam, from NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org]

2015-05-09 Thread Keith Medcalf
On Saturday, 9 May, 2015, at 10:59 John Levine jo...@iecc.com said: No test/plain? Delete without further ado. Sadly, it is no longer 1998. No kidding. Web-Page e-mail. Lots of proprietary executable-embedded-in-data file formats used for e-mail, and worst, gratuitous JavaScript

Re: Thousands of hosts on a gigabit LAN, maybe not

2015-05-09 Thread Eduardo Schoedler
Juniper OCX1100 have 72 ports in 1U. And you can tune Linux IPv4 neighbor: https://ams-ix.net/technical/specifications-descriptions/config-guide#11 -- Eduardo Schoedler Em sábado, 9 de maio de 2015, Lamar Owen lo...@pari.edu escreveu: On 05/08/2015 02:53 PM, John Levine wrote: ... Most

Re: Updated prefix filtering

2015-05-09 Thread Dave Taht
On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 3:41 PM, Chaim Rieger chaim.rie...@gmail.com wrote: Best example I’ve found is located at http://jonsblog.lewis.org/ http://jonsblog.lewis.org/ I too ran out of space, Brocade, not Cisco though, and am looking to filter prefixes. did anybody do a more recent or

Re: Thousands of hosts on a gigabit LAN, maybe not

2015-05-09 Thread Eduardo Schoedler
You do not mention low cost before ;) Em sábado, 9 de maio de 2015, John Levine jo...@iecc.com escreveu: In article cahf3uwypqn1ns_umjz-znuk3i5ufczbu9l39b-crovg6yum...@mail.gmail.com javascript:; you write: Juniper OCX1100 have 72 ports in 1U. Yeah, too bad it costs $32,000. Other than

Re: Thousands of hosts on a gigabit LAN, maybe not

2015-05-09 Thread John Levine
To the OP please do tell us more about what you are doing, it sounds very interesting. There's a conference paper in preparation. I'll send a pointer when I can. R's, John

Re: Thousands of hosts on a gigabit LAN, maybe not

2015-05-09 Thread Karl Auer
On Sat, 2015-05-09 at 17:06 -0400, Lamar Owen wrote: The effective limit on subnet size would be of course broadcast overhead; 1,000 nodes on a /22 would likely be painfully slow due to broadcast overhead alone. Would be interesting to see how IPv6 performed, since is one of the things it

Re: Thousands of hosts on a gigabit LAN, maybe not

2015-05-09 Thread John Levine
In article cahf3uwypqn1ns_umjz-znuk3i5ufczbu9l39b-crovg6yum...@mail.gmail.com you write: Juniper OCX1100 have 72 ports in 1U. Yeah, too bad it costs $32,000. Other than that it'd be perfect. R's, John

Re: [probably spam, from NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org]

2015-05-09 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 5/9/2015 18:10, Keith Medcalf wrote: ...making the Web unusable unless you disable all security (or just refuse to deal with the schmucks that do that). The only reasonable path for people who do not want to be invaded. It really is easier in the long run--and I find that it is the only

Re: Thousands of hosts on a gigabit LAN, maybe not

2015-05-09 Thread Lamar Owen
On 05/08/2015 02:53 PM, John Levine wrote: ... Most of the traffic will be from one node to another, with considerably less to the outside. Physical distance shouldn't be a problem since everything's in the same room, maybe the same rack. What's the rule of thumb for number of hosts per

Re: Thousands of hosts on a gigabit LAN, maybe not

2015-05-09 Thread Bruce Simpson
On 09/05/2015 23:33, Karl Auer wrote: IPv4 ARP, for example, hits every on-subnet neighbour; the IPv6 equivalent uses multicast to hit only those neighbours that happen to share the same 24 low-end L3 address bits as the desired target - a statistically much smaller subset of on-link neighbours,

RE: Thousands of hosts on a gigabit LAN, maybe not

2015-05-09 Thread Jerry J. Anderson, CCIE #5000
Some people I know (yes really) are building a system that will have several thousand little computers in some racks. Each of the computers runs Linux and has a gigabit ethernet interface. It occurs to me that it is unlikely that I can buy an ethernet switch with thousands of ports, and

Fwd: BSDCon Brazil 2015 - Call for Papers

2015-05-09 Thread Vinícius Zavam
-- Forwarded message -- From: BSDCon Brasil 2015 bsd...@bsdcon.com.br Date: 2015-05-08 12:52 GMT-03:00 Subject: BSDCon Brazil 2015 - Call for Papers To: INTRODUCTION BSDCon Brazil (http://www.bsdcon.com.br) is the brazilian BSD powered and flavored conference. The first

Re: Updated prefix filtering

2015-05-09 Thread Frederik Kriewitz
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 2:22 AM, Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappytelecom.net wrote: Not sure if you missed it.. there was a discussion on this topic in the recent past... I am taking the liberty of re-posting below.. you may find it useful. You can find the complete thread here:

Re: Thousands of hosts on a gigabit LAN, maybe not

2015-05-09 Thread Baldur Norddahl
The standard 48 port with 2 port uplink 1U switch is far from full depth. You put them in the back of the rack and have the small computers in the front. You might even turn the switches around, so the ports face inwards into the rack. The network cables would be very short and go directly from

Re: [probably spam, from NANOG nanog-boun...@nanog.org]

2015-05-09 Thread John Levine
No test/plain? Delete without further ado. Sadly, it is no longer 1998. R's, John

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2015-05-09 Thread Stephen Satchell
On 05/09/2015 08:17 AM, Jim Popovitch wrote: On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Keith Medcalf kmedc...@dessus.com wrote: No test/plain? Delete without further ado. In the past year or so it seems that all RAA Verification emails, or at least the ones I see, contain no plain text. :-( -Jim

Re:

2015-05-09 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Keith Medcalf kmedc...@dessus.com wrote: No test/plain? Delete without further ado. In the past year or so it seems that all RAA Verification emails, or at least the ones I see, contain no plain text. :-( -Jim P.

Re: Rasberry pi - high density

2015-05-09 Thread Rafael Possamai
From the work that I've done in the past with clusters, your need for bandwidth is usually not the biggest issue. When you work with big data, let's say 500 million data points, most mathematicians would condense it all down into averages, standard deviations, probabilities, etc, which then become

RE:

2015-05-09 Thread Keith Medcalf
Ah. Security hole as designed. inline dispositions should be ignored unless the recipient specifically requests to see them after viewing the text/plain part. In fact, I would vote for ignoring *everything* except the text/plain part unless the recipient specifically requests it after

Re: Rasberry pi - high density

2015-05-09 Thread Barry Shein
On May 9, 2015 at 00:24 char...@thefnf.org (char...@thefnf.org) wrote: So I just crunched the numbers. How many pies could I cram in a rack? For another list I just estimated how many M.2 SSD modules one could cram into a 3.5 disk case. Around 40 w/ some room to spare (assuming heat and

Re: Rasberry pi - high density

2015-05-09 Thread Eugeniu Patrascu
On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Barry Shein b...@world.std.com wrote: On May 9, 2015 at 00:24 char...@thefnf.org (char...@thefnf.org) wrote: So I just crunched the numbers. How many pies could I cram in a rack? For another list I just estimated how many M.2 SSD modules one could