NANOG70 tee shirt mystery

2017-06-04 Thread Matthew Petach
So, I've been staring at the NANOG70 tee shirt for
a bit now:

https://flic.kr/p/VejX5y

and I have to admit, I'm a bit stymied.

Usually, the tee-shirts are somewhat referential
to the location or to a particular event; but this
one is leaving me scratching my head.

Is it perhaps a shot of the network engineering
"Ooops (I broke the network again)"  concert
tour?

Or is there some other cultural reference at
play that I'm not aware of?

Enquiring minds want to know!(tm).  :)

Matt


Re: NANOG70 tee shirt mystery

2017-06-04 Thread Tom Hill
On 05/06/17 00:55, Matthew Petach wrote:
> Or is there some other cultural reference at
> play that I'm not aware of?

It could be this:

  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_of_Washington_(state)#Grunge

Nirvana & Pearl Jam (amongst others) came out of Seattle, it seems. TIL!

-- 
Tom


Re: NANOG70 tee shirt mystery

2017-06-04 Thread David Barak via NANOG
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_(Pearl_Jam_album)

Pearl Jam are from Seattle...

David Barak
Sent from mobile device, please excuse autocorrection artifacts

> On Jun 4, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Matthew Petach  wrote:
> 
> So, I've been staring at the NANOG70 tee shirt for
> a bit now:
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/VejX5y
> 
> and I have to admit, I'm a bit stymied.
> 
> Usually, the tee-shirts are somewhat referential
> to the location or to a particular event; but this
> one is leaving me scratching my head.
> 
> Is it perhaps a shot of the network engineering
> "Ooops (I broke the network again)"  concert
> tour?
> 
> Or is there some other cultural reference at
> play that I'm not aware of?
> 
> Enquiring minds want to know!(tm).  :)
> 
> Matt


Re: NANOG70 tee shirt mystery

2017-06-04 Thread Eric Kuhnke
However, a Hyatt Regency hotel in Bellevue is about as far from grunge as
one can get. For those not familiar with Bellevue it is roughly similar to
Crystal City in Arlington, VA.

On Jun 4, 2017 5:10 PM, "David Barak via NANOG"  wrote:

> https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_(Pearl_Jam_album)
>
> Pearl Jam are from Seattle...
>
> David Barak
> Sent from mobile device, please excuse autocorrection artifacts
>
> > On Jun 4, 2017, at 4:55 PM, Matthew Petach 
> wrote:
> >
> > So, I've been staring at the NANOG70 tee shirt for
> > a bit now:
> >
> > https://flic.kr/p/VejX5y
> >
> > and I have to admit, I'm a bit stymied.
> >
> > Usually, the tee-shirts are somewhat referential
> > to the location or to a particular event; but this
> > one is leaving me scratching my head.
> >
> > Is it perhaps a shot of the network engineering
> > "Ooops (I broke the network again)"  concert
> > tour?
> >
> > Or is there some other cultural reference at
> > play that I'm not aware of?
> >
> > Enquiring minds want to know!(tm).  :)
> >
> > Matt
>


RE: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream

2017-06-04 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Doesn't cost a lot to use the regional shelf spares stocked by Juniper for
a couple of days...

On Jun 4, 2017 4:03 PM, "James Breeden"  wrote:

> Yeah, I was wondering about that 4x100G. is that a necessity or a "because
> we can" move?
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Dugas
> Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:35 PM
> To: Aaron Gould 
> Cc: NANOG 
> Subject: RE: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
>
> And the 4x100G. That's four times the capacity of the network I work for.
> ~100k subs.
>
> On Jun 2, 2017 16:54, "Aaron Gould"  wrote:
>
> > Btw
> >
> > Wow, a ~2 million dollar boundary (dual PTX1000's) for the NANOG 70
> > conference geez
> >
> > -aaron
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
> > Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:43 PM
> > To: nanog@nanog.org list 
> > Subject: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
> >
> > Just a small thing, but as one of the folks who used to work on the
> > core network gear of AS11404, the network diagram has something in it
> > that might confuse attendees as to who is really sponsoring the upstream:
> >
> > https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog70/diagram
> >
> > AS11404 was formerly known as Spectrum Networks, acquired in 2013 by
> > Wavedivision Holdings LLC (Wave Broadband) and became the backbone of
> > the Wave network. It's a totally different thing than the Charter
> > service which is trademarked as as Spectrum.
> >
> > https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/11404
> >
> > The logo in the right side bubble there shouldn't be the
> > Charter/Spectrum trademarked font, but rather should be Wave, who
> > built the dark fiber into the hotel and are providing the upstream.
> > The last mile fiber into the hotel is Wave.
> >
> >
> > -Eric
> >
> >
>


Re: Internet connectivity in Ghana

2017-06-04 Thread Eric Kuhnke
Another good choice for a major international carrier with a pop in Accra
would be opentransit/France Telecom.

On Jun 4, 2017 6:04 AM, "i3D.net - Martijn Schmidt" 
wrote:

> TISparkle/Seabone also has an IP transit PoP in Accra, plus they have a
> partnership with Dolphin Telecom.
>
> On 06/01/2017 05:30 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
> > All of the licensed mobile phone network operators in Ghana are also ISPs
> > and can reach enterprise customers. Within Accra or a few other major
> > coastal cities, either by microwave rooftop/tower based links or their
> > terrestrial fiber. Should definitely be much faster and more economical
> > than satellite.
> >
> > Interestingly if you look at BGP tables and AS-adjacencies for the major
> > Ghanian ISPs and telecoms, it is logically a suburb of London, which is
> > where most of the traffic in the recently built West African submarine
> > cables goes.
> >
> >
> > On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Rishi Singh 
> wrote:
> >
> >> Has anyone dealt with getting internet connectivity in Ghana? I've been
> >> doing a lot of research and saw some peering plans with Nigeria but
> nothing
> >> solid there yet. Currently a financial client of mine is paying quite a
> bit
> >> every quarter on satellite up link fees.
> >>
> >> Do any of the major carriers have any direct connectivity into Ghana?
> >>
> >> Thank you,
> >>
>
>
>


Re: Internet connectivity in Ghana

2017-06-04 Thread i3D.net - Martijn Schmidt
TISparkle/Seabone also has an IP transit PoP in Accra, plus they have a
partnership with Dolphin Telecom.

On 06/01/2017 05:30 PM, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
> All of the licensed mobile phone network operators in Ghana are also ISPs
> and can reach enterprise customers. Within Accra or a few other major
> coastal cities, either by microwave rooftop/tower based links or their
> terrestrial fiber. Should definitely be much faster and more economical
> than satellite.
>
> Interestingly if you look at BGP tables and AS-adjacencies for the major
> Ghanian ISPs and telecoms, it is logically a suburb of London, which is
> where most of the traffic in the recently built West African submarine
> cables goes.
>
>
> On Wed, May 31, 2017 at 7:40 AM, Rishi Singh  wrote:
>
>> Has anyone dealt with getting internet connectivity in Ghana? I've been
>> doing a lot of research and saw some peering plans with Nigeria but nothing
>> solid there yet. Currently a financial client of mine is paying quite a bit
>> every quarter on satellite up link fees.
>>
>> Do any of the major carriers have any direct connectivity into Ghana?
>>
>> Thank you,
>>




Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

2017-06-04 Thread Tom Hill
On 01/06/17 20:44, Rod Beck wrote:
> There is a website showing where most of the Trans-Atlantic cables land on 
> the West Coast of Britain at towns like Bude in Wales. Hiding is not an 
> option.

Bude is in Cornwall, a county of England. It's not in Wales.

-- 
Tom


Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

2017-06-04 Thread Rod Beck
Perfectly irrelevant, Tom. 


From: NANOG  on behalf of Tom Hill 

Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 12:22:54 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

On 01/06/17 20:44, Rod Beck wrote:
> There is a website showing where most of the Trans-Atlantic cables land on 
> the West Coast of Britain at towns like Bude in Wales. Hiding is not an 
> option.

Bude is in Cornwall, a county of England. It's not in Wales.

--
Tom


Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

2017-06-04 Thread Rod Beck
And when you get over trying to score cheap points, you can view the map: 
http://www.kis-orca.eu/map#.WTSKGG4lHIU.




From: NANOG  on behalf of Tom Hill 

Sent: Monday, June 5, 2017 12:22:54 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

On 01/06/17 20:44, Rod Beck wrote:
> There is a website showing where most of the Trans-Atlantic cables land on 
> the West Coast of Britain at towns like Bude in Wales. Hiding is not an 
> option.

Bude is in Cornwall, a county of England. It's not in Wales.

--
Tom


Re: Russian diplomats lingering near fiber optic cables

2017-06-04 Thread Tom Hill
On 04/06/17 23:32, Rod Beck wrote:
> And when you get over trying to score cheap points, you can view the map

I'm not the one that needs to look at a map ;)


-- 
Tom


RE: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream

2017-06-04 Thread James Breeden
Yeah, I was wondering about that 4x100G. is that a necessity or a "because we 
can" move?


-Original Message-
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Dugas
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 4:35 PM
To: Aaron Gould 
Cc: NANOG 
Subject: RE: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream

And the 4x100G. That's four times the capacity of the network I work for.
~100k subs.

On Jun 2, 2017 16:54, "Aaron Gould"  wrote:

> Btw
>
> Wow, a ~2 million dollar boundary (dual PTX1000's) for the NANOG 70 
> conference geez
>
> -aaron
>
> -Original Message-
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-boun...@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Eric Kuhnke
> Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 1:43 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org list 
> Subject: NANOG 70 network diagram and upstream
>
> Just a small thing, but as one of the folks who used to work on the 
> core network gear of AS11404, the network diagram has something in it 
> that might confuse attendees as to who is really sponsoring the upstream:
>
> https://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog70/diagram
>
> AS11404 was formerly known as Spectrum Networks, acquired in 2013 by 
> Wavedivision Holdings LLC (Wave Broadband) and became the backbone of 
> the Wave network. It's a totally different thing than the Charter 
> service which is trademarked as as Spectrum.
>
> https://www.peeringdb.com/asn/11404
>
> The logo in the right side bubble there shouldn't be the 
> Charter/Spectrum trademarked font, but rather should be Wave, who 
> built the dark fiber into the hotel and are providing the upstream. 
> The last mile fiber into the hotel is Wave.
>
>
> -Eric
>
>