Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On 14/Feb/19 23:25, Brandon Martin wrote: >   > > The CES is...wonky.  My Foundry/Brocade/Extreme SEs have steered me > away from them on more than one occasion. > > The CER is fine but of course more expensive.  It'll take a full > Internet table, though, which is handy. > > For AE resi

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On 14/Feb/19 17:10, Aaron Gould wrote: > Not sure if this is what y'all are talking about, but I use lots of Juniper > ACX5048 (previously Cisco ME3600 or ASR9000) for mpls-capable router edging > in native ip/ethernet from ftth gpon network into mpls l2circuits and LOTS of > vrf vrf for

Re: BGP topological vs centralized route reflector

2019-02-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On 14/Feb/19 17:02, Aaron Gould wrote: > To not get off-topic too much, since you mentioned MX204, please tell me, do > you know if it is a nice MPLS P/PE box ? If so, is it quite capable in its > ability to do L3 VPN's, L2 VPN's (l2circuit mainly, but also curious of vpls, > evpn). We've

Whitebox with OSPF optics

2019-02-14 Thread Sami Joseph
Hey, Have you guys seen any ODM vendor that makes platforms based on Tomahawk 3 or later OSPF optics ? Thank you Sam

cgnat ams0 vrf-aware flow data export help

2019-02-14 Thread Aaron Gould
Need assistance with exporting flow data for inside interface of cgnat ams0 aggregated multiservice interface I have MX960 with MS-MPC-128G doing cgnat using AMS0 (aggregated multiservice of underlying mams interfaces) using next-hop-style vrf-aware cgnat. I need the cgnat inside domain

Re: [proj-bgp] adding graphs for actually unreachable RPKI INVALID prefixes to RPKI Monitor?

2019-02-14 Thread nusenu
Sriram, Kotikalapudi (Fed) (2018-09-18):> I also found your analysis very interesting and useful. Thanks for that. > >> What do you think about adding graphs that show the amount of actually >> unreachable prefixes and IP space? (prefix where no alternative >> valid/unknown announcement exists)

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-14 Thread Brandon Martin
On 2/14/19 12:08 AM, Mark Tinka wrote: As a pure FTTH Active-E AN, I still think the Brocade (Extreme) CER/CES is a good box. The CES is...wonky. My Foundry/Brocade/Extreme SEs have steered me away from them on more than one occasion. The CER is fine but of course more expensive. It'll

RE: Last Mile Design

2019-02-14 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Thu, 14 Feb 2019, Aaron Gould wrote: Not sure if this is what y'all are talking about, but I use lots of Juniper ACX5048 (previously Cisco ME3600 or ASR9000) for mpls-capable router edging in native ip/ethernet from ftth gpon network into mpls l2circuits and LOTS of vrf vrf for public

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-14 Thread Mikael Abrahamsson
On Wed, 13 Feb 2019, Colton Conor wrote: Just wondering, but what IP-capable MPLS switches are people using to deploy AE to residential internet connections? Most 48 port AE switches from repetuable vendors are crazy expensive, and I can't see how the ROI would ever work compared to GPON.

Re: Fwd: wither cyclops?

2019-02-14 Thread Simon Leinen
> Did this tool die on the vine? > https://cyclops.cs.ucla.edu/ Not sure I would express it that way https://www.cs.ucla.edu/thousandeyes-a-look-inside-two-ucla-alumnis-273-million-startup/ -- Simon.

Re: How to choose a transit provider?

2019-02-14 Thread Mehmet Akcin
thanks for all feedback, I have tried to summarize my thoughts in a video, hoping this is useful set of notes https://youtu.be/4gihKxb6uys On Sat, Dec 15, 2018 at 9:46 AM Mark Tinka wrote: > > > On 15/Dec/18 19:37, nanog-...@mail.com wrote: > > > > > I certainly subscribe to the notion that

Re: AT/as7018 now drops invalid prefixes from peers

2019-02-14 Thread Jay Borkenhagen
> Congrats Jay, this is awesome news! Thanks, Alex! > I’m interested to hear what is preventing you from creating ROAs for all of > your announcements. > > > We will publish more ROAs over time. Thusfar we have been utilizing > > ARIN's hosted model, but down the road ARIN's delegated

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-14 Thread Eric Kuhnke
A much more common configuration is a combination of a low cost 48-port L2 aggregation switch, something whitebox or similar to a Taiwanese OEM/ODM such as edgecore, with a single 10GbE uplink to a small MPLS-capable router. One 10Gbps link can fit a great many 1GbE active-E residential customers

Re: Last Mile Design

2019-02-14 Thread Colton Conor
Aaron, Indeed the ACX5048 is a great box but expensive. I was talking about using the Gig-e ports of a 48 port switch to face subscribers, and asking what low cost IP-Capable MPLS capable 48 port switch fits that role. Basically an access switch for AE. On Thu, Feb 14, 2019 at 9:10 AM Aaron

Return to NANOG, last mile, municipal facilities

2019-02-14 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
It frightens me when I realize how long it's been since I was active in NANOG (2006?, but a lot before then). Happily, I'm surfacing from a lot of health and personal issues, and starting to do some consulting. *waves to lots of old friends, thinking of the time, in frustration, that I called

RE: Last Mile Design

2019-02-14 Thread Aaron Gould
Not sure if this is what y'all are talking about, but I use lots of Juniper ACX5048 (previously Cisco ME3600 or ASR9000) for mpls-capable router edging in native ip/ethernet from ftth gpon network into mpls l2circuits and LOTS of vrf vrf for public ip, vrf for cgnat for private ip, vrf for

RE: BGP topological vs centralized route reflector

2019-02-14 Thread Aaron Gould
To not get off-topic too much, since you mentioned MX204, please tell me, do you know if it is a nice MPLS P/PE box ? If so, is it quite capable in its ability to do L3 VPN's, L2 VPN's (l2circuit mainly, but also curious of vpls, evpn). Actually I'm considering it as a router for my ENNI

Re: BGP topological vs centralized route reflector

2019-02-14 Thread Mark Tinka
On 14/Feb/19 14:04, Alain Hebert wrote: >     Hi, > >     Unlucky as always, we had issues with the chassis of a MX104 about > every years since we installed. Are you using the MX104 as a route reflector? If so, make one of the VM's your alternative for this function :-). If you're not doing

Re: BGP topological vs centralized route reflector

2019-02-14 Thread Alain Hebert
    Hi,     Unlucky as always, we had issues with the chassis of a MX104 about every years since we installed.     I thinking the vibration from the train track above our location might be having an effect on connectors in those chassis, but we never got a "autopsy" report back from JNP