Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

> > I think the bigger issue is they are all entirely operated out of india. > Why is that specifically a problem, exactly? There are many reasons why it is *easier* to setup a scam call center in India, but it's not like the Indian authorities completely ignore the problem. One operation in

Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

> > > https://www.theinternetpatrol.com/how-to-shake-down-robocallers-and-robotexters-for-fun-and-profit/ > I absolutely endorse this idea. Very early in my career, I worked for a shop that provided network/IT services for a bottom tier debt collector, one of the early innovators of the

Re: mail admins?

On 4/26/20 8:39 PM, Matt Palmer wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 05:10:56PM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote: On 4/26/20 5:07 PM, Matt Palmer wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 07:59:24AM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote: On 4/26/20 7:32 AM, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 07:56:30PM -0700,

Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

Where I was meaning to counter was Jon Lewis's point that it was offtopic. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions http://www.ics-il.com Midwest-IX http://www.midwest-ix.com - Original Message - From: "j k" To: "Mike Hammett" Cc: "Jon Lewis" , "North American

Re: mail admins?

On 4/27/20 8:35 AM, William Herrin wrote: On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 7:14 AM Michael Thomas wrote: On 4/26/20 8:39 PM, Matt Palmer wrote: On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 05:10:56PM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote: Which exactly zero deployment. And you need to store the plain-text password on the server

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Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

>> Well, while we are already engaged in the thread, some of you may be >> interested to know (especially if you find yourself with time on your >> hands these days), that you *can* actually get money from these >> scum. In fact, it turns out that they cave pretty easily because >> they *know*

Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

On 4/27/20 9:15 AM, Anne P. Mitchell, Esq. wrote: What exactly is this "basic internet research"? I thought the big problem is that they are trivially capable of covering their tracks. There is always a money trail. Always. Because the whole point of these calls/sms messages is to get

Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

On Mon, 27 Apr 2020, William Herrin wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 7:32 PM Matthew Black wrote: Good grief, selling a kit for $47. Since all robocalls employ Caller ID spoofing, just how does one prove who called? You don't. AFAICT, that's the point of Anne's comments. Finding them is good

Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

> What exactly is this "basic internet research"? I thought the big problem is > that they are trivially capable of covering their tracks. There is always a money trail. Always. Because the whole point of these calls/sms messages is to get money out of you. And the money trail almost

Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 7:32 PM Matthew Black wrote: > Good grief, selling a kit for $47. Since all robocalls employ Caller ID > spoofing, just how does one prove who called? You don't. AFAICT, that's the point of Anne's comments. Finding them is good enough. Paying off anyone who both finds

Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

Mike, Except in this case the flaw was acknowledged back in the 80' and it room the FCC almost 40 years to do something about it. Joe Klein On Sat, Apr 25, 2020, 8:54 AM Mike Hammett wrote: > No different than any other network abuse mechanism and regulatory and > legislative measures meant

Re: mail admins?

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 7:14 AM Michael Thomas wrote: > On 4/26/20 8:39 PM, Matt Palmer wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 05:10:56PM -0700, Michael Thomas wrote: > >> Which exactly zero deployment. And you need to store the plain-text > >> password > >> on the server side. What could possibly

Re: mail admins?

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Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

On 4/27/20 11:12 AM, Jon Lewis wrote: On Mon, 27 Apr 2020, William Herrin wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 7:32 PM Matthew Black wrote: Good grief, selling a kit for $47. Since all robocalls employ Caller ID spoofing, just how does one prove who called? You don't. AFAICT, that's the point

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Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 11:12 AM Jon Lewis wrote: > I suspect the only sure way to identify them is to do > business with them, i.e. buy that extended warranty on your car, or at > least start walking through the process until either payment is made or > they tell you who you'll have to pay. I

Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

The obvious way to id them is to buy whatever it is they are selling. So that reduces the problem to being able to cancel the transaction once id'd, and probably using fraudulent credentials. It might take a little more strategy than what I just described, there are other potential pitfalls.

Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

STIR/SHAKEN? On Mon, Apr 27, 2020, 14:34 Michael Thomas wrote: > > On 4/27/20 11:12 AM, Jon Lewis wrote: > > On Mon, 27 Apr 2020, William Herrin wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Apr 25, 2020 at 7:32 PM Matthew Black > >> wrote: > >>> Good grief, selling a kit for $47. Since all robocalls employ Caller

Re: Phishing and telemarketing telephone calls

On 4/24/20 16:26, Matthew Black wrote: Has anyone else noticed a steep decline in annoying phone calls since the FCC threatened legal action against three major VOIP gateways if they didn’t make efforts to prevent Caller ID spoofing from scammers? Not particularly. The car warranty and credit