Re: AT - INET Data Caps

2020-11-30 Thread Thomas Yarger
Great share! Thanks.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 1:33 PM  wrote:

> You made me curious… found some interesting links…
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> https://www.att.com/support/data-calculator/
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> https://www.att.com/support/article/u-verse-high-speed-internet/KM1010099/
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> https://broadbandnow.com/internet-providers-with-data-caps
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> https://www.cabletv.com/blog/which-brands-have-data-caps
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> -Aaron
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> *From:* NANOG  *On Behalf Of *Thomas
> Yarger
> *Sent:* Monday, November 30, 2020 9:11 AM
> *To:* nanog@nanog.org
> *Subject:* AT - INET Data Caps
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> Hello All,
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> This past week when I was helping my father perform some home networking,
> I called AT to get a newer Arris router and they mentioned that if I were
> to upgrade his service, he would fall under a 1 TB data cap for home
> internet. Is this just in FL or have others seen similar restrictions with
> AT? Thanks!
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> Thanks,
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> Thomas Yarger
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Thanks,

Thomas Yarger


RE: AT - INET Data Caps

2020-11-30 Thread aaron1
You made me curious… found some interesting links…

 

https://www.att.com/support/data-calculator/ 

 

https://www.att.com/support/article/u-verse-high-speed-internet/KM1010099/ 

 

https://broadbandnow.com/internet-providers-with-data-caps 

 

https://www.cabletv.com/blog/which-brands-have-data-caps 

 

 

-Aaron

 

From: NANOG  On Behalf Of Thomas Yarger
Sent: Monday, November 30, 2020 9:11 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: AT - INET Data Caps

 

Hello All, 

 

This past week when I was helping my father perform some home networking, I 
called AT to get a newer Arris router and they mentioned that if I were to 
upgrade his service, he would fall under a 1 TB data cap for home internet. Is 
this just in FL or have others seen similar restrictions with AT? Thanks!


 

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Thanks, 

Thomas Yarger 

 



Re: AT - INET Data Caps

2020-11-30 Thread Dovid Bender
We have employees using Comcast at home and they have a max of 1TB per
month. They are now going after clients forcing them to update to an
unlimited plan or pay per GB over 1TGB.


On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 1:05 PM Paul Emmons  wrote:

> Yes this is common business practice for almost all of the MSOs.
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> On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:45 AM Thomas Yarger 
> wrote:
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>> Hello All,
>>
>> This past week when I was helping my father perform some home networking,
>> I called AT to get a newer Arris router and they mentioned that if I were
>> to upgrade his service, he would fall under a 1 TB data cap for home
>> internet. Is this just in FL or have others seen similar restrictions with
>> AT? Thanks!
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Thomas Yarger
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>>


Re: Global Peer Exchange

2020-11-30 Thread Filip Hruska

To expand on that a bit: The pricing differs per geographical region, I
was offered 0.1 EUR/Mbps, someone I know in Australia got a price
several times higher. No fixed port costs, no commit, no distance-based
fees. No discounts for larger ports. 


Both sites have to be separate companies, not just separate ASNs. If you
ask about that, they will point you at their L2 PtP product instead. 


Regards,
Filip 


On 2020-11-30 19:11, Paul Emmons wrote:


You take down a 10g connection and they bill each side $.2 a meg, 95th 
percintile billing.  VLAN between the two sites. Both sites have to have a 
different AS number.  So if you want to move 1g of data, 95th percentile, 
between 2 datacenters I guess it has some utility at $400 a gig effective 
pricing.   I can't beleive it is a great money maker for them. Oh and it's 
Cogent and they say they can't give you above 1500 mtu.


~P

Re: Global Peer Exchange

2020-11-30 Thread Ryan Hamel
That's Cogent for ya.

Ryan

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020, 10:14 AM Paul Emmons  wrote:

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> You take down a 10g connection and they bill each side $.2 a meg, 95th
>> percintile billing.  VLAN between the two sites. Both sites have to have a
>> different AS number.  So if you want to move 1g of data, 95th percentile,
>> between 2 datacenters I guess it has some utility at $400 a gig effective
>> pricing.   I can't beleive it is a great money maker for them. Oh and it's
>> Cogent and they say they can't give you above 1500 mtu.
>
> ~P
>


Re: Global Peer Exchange

2020-11-30 Thread Paul Emmons
> You take down a 10g connection and they bill each side $.2 a meg, 95th
> percintile billing.  VLAN between the two sites. Both sites have to have a
> different AS number.  So if you want to move 1g of data, 95th percentile,
> between 2 datacenters I guess it has some utility at $400 a gig effective
> pricing.   I can't beleive it is a great money maker for them. Oh and it's
> Cogent and they say they can't give you above 1500 mtu.

~P


Re: AT - INET Data Caps

2020-11-30 Thread Paul Emmons
Yes this is common business practice for almost all of the MSOs.

On Mon, Nov 30, 2020 at 9:45 AM Thomas Yarger 
wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> This past week when I was helping my father perform some home networking,
> I called AT to get a newer Arris router and they mentioned that if I were
> to upgrade his service, he would fall under a 1 TB data cap for home
> internet. Is this just in FL or have others seen similar restrictions with
> AT? Thanks!
>
> --
> Thanks,
>
> Thomas Yarger
>
>


Re: Global Peer Exchange

2020-11-30 Thread Jay Hennigan

On 11/30/20 07:07, Jared Brown wrote:

Hello NANOG!

Does anybody have anything, good or bad, to say about Cogent's Global Peer 
Exchange?


I have had two different Cogent telespammers cold-call me about this 
within the last month. Neither seemed to grok the concept of peering, 
why one should pay a third party for it, or how their product differed 
from (partial?) transport.


Neither could provide a link to a Cogent website or provide a document 
that detailed this offering. Neither called me back as promised with 
more information or to clarify exactly what they were selling.


As far as I can tell it's a marketing gimmick of some kind being 
promoted by telemarketers who don't know how to spell BGP.


--
Jay Hennigan - j...@west.net
Network Engineering - CCIE #7880
503 897-8550 - WB6RDV


Re: Global Peer Exchange

2020-11-30 Thread Laura Smith via NANOG
I stopped reading at "Cogent" ;-)

Telemarketing pests.

My dislike of electronic spam is only preceded by my utter contempt for those 
people who both physically and mentally interrupt my work.


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‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
On Monday, November 30, 2020 3:07 PM, Jared Brown  wrote:

> Hello NANOG!
>
> Does anybody have anything, good or bad, to say about Cogent's Global Peer 
> Exchange?
>
> Jared




AT - INET Data Caps

2020-11-30 Thread Thomas Yarger
Hello All,

This past week when I was helping my father perform some home networking, I
called AT to get a newer Arris router and they mentioned that if I were
to upgrade his service, he would fall under a 1 TB data cap for home
internet. Is this just in FL or have others seen similar restrictions with
AT? Thanks!

-- 
Thanks,

Thomas Yarger


Global Peer Exchange

2020-11-30 Thread Jared Brown
Hello NANOG!

Does anybody have anything, good or bad, to say about Cogent's Global Peer 
Exchange?


Jared


Re: Cable Company Hotspots

2020-11-30 Thread Livingood, Jason via NANOG
> Unclear wether it’s over a separately provisioned bandwidth channel, or 
> wether it shares the aggregate capacity of the HFC.

In the Comcast network it uses separately-provisioned bandwidth in the access 
network.

- Jason