Re: is ipv6 fast, was silly Redeploying

2021-11-22 Thread Owen DeLong via NANOG
> On Nov 22, 2021, at 02:45 , Masataka Ohta > wrote: > > Mans Nilsson wrote: > > > Not everyone are Apple, "hp"[0] or MIT, where initial > > allocation still is mostly sufficient. > > The number of routing table entries is growing exponentially, > not because of increase of the number of

Re: Class D addresses? was: Redploying most of 127/8 as unicast public

2021-11-22 Thread Greg Skinner via NANOG
> On Nov 21, 2021, at 1:20 PM, William Herrin wrote: > > On Sun, Nov 21, 2021 at 4:16 AM Eliot Lear > wrote: >> In 2008, Vince Fuller, Dave Meyer, and I put together >> draft-fuller-240space, and we presented it to the IETF. There were >> definitely people who thought we should just try to

Re: Redeploying most of 127/8, 0/8, 240/4 and *.0 as unicast

2021-11-22 Thread Lincoln Dale
On Thu, Nov 18, 2021 at 1:21 PM John Gilmore wrote: > We have found no ASIC IP implementations that > hardwire in assumptions about specific IP address ranges. If you know > of any, please let us know, otherwise, let's let that strawman rest. > There's at least one. Marvell PresteriaCX (its

RPKI-Based Policy Without Route Refresh

2021-11-22 Thread Mark Tinka
Randy will be presenting draft-ymbk-sidrops-rov-no-rr during RIPE-83, at around 1530hrs UTC: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-ymbk-sidrops-rov-no-rr-02 Most grateful if you can join, and provide some initial feedback. Thanks. Mark.

Re: is ipv6 fast, was silly Redeploying

2021-11-22 Thread Masataka Ohta
Mans Nilsson wrote: > Not everyone are Apple, "hp"[0] or MIT, where initial > allocation still is mostly sufficient. The number of routing table entries is growing exponentially, not because of increase of the number of ISPs, but because of multihoming. As such, if entities requiring IPv4

FreeBSD users of 127/8

2021-11-22 Thread John Gilmore
J. Hellenthal wrote: > FreeBSD operators have been using this space for quite a long time for > many NAT'ing reasons including firewalls and other services behind > them for jail routing and such. > > https://dan.langille.org/2013/12/29/freebsd-jails-on-non-routable-ip-addresses/ > > That's just

Re: Class E addresses? 240/4 history

2021-11-22 Thread Eliot Lear
Hi John, On 22.11.21 10:25, John Gilmore wrote: Eliot Lear wrote: I was not in this part of IETF in those days, so I did not participate in those discussions. But I later read them on the archived mailing list, and reached out by email to Dave Thaler for more details about his concerns. He

Re: Class E addresses? 240/4 history

2021-11-22 Thread John Gilmore
Eliot Lear wrote: > In 2008, Vince Fuller, Dave Meyer, and I put together > draft-fuller-240space, and we presented it to the IETF. There were > definitely people who thought we should just try to get to v6, but > what really stopped us was a point that Dave Thaler made: unintended > impact on

RE: Quantifying the customer support and impact of cgnat for residential ipv4

2021-11-22 Thread Graham Johnston
>We have 10,000+ customers and by default everyone is behind CGNAT. Around 25 >customers have asked for a dedicated public IP >address and we usually just give them one free of charge. For our case, very >low percentage actually request one. > Travis Out of curiosity, based on your

Re: FreeBSD users of 127/8

2021-11-22 Thread Måns Nilsson
Subject: FreeBSD users of 127/8 Date: Mon, Nov 22, 2021 at 12:57:43AM -0800 Quoting John Gilmore (g...@toad.com): > If it turns out that FreeBSD usage of 127.1/16 is widespread, and the > above analysis is incorrect or unacceptable to the FreeBSD community, we > would be happy to modify the

Your opinion on security and privacy implication of CDN - a 2min survey

2021-11-22 Thread Rui Xin
Hi all, Do any of your websites employ password-based logins? Do they also use a CDN service? Are you concerned about the security of users' passwords? Are there any measures to protect users' sensitive information? Many websites we investigated so far send users' account credentials directly to