Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

2022-06-19 Thread Dovid Bender
I know that in Israel the cyber dept of the government scans IL IP space then notifies ISP's to notify their clients. This helps where you have clueless people that don't know they have devices that can easily be compromised. On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 6:13 AM Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > I would

Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

2022-06-19 Thread Dovid Bender
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 8:01 AM Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > In message udtn6t1o+cv-nh6jbz...@mail.gmail.com> > Dovid Bender > >I know that in Israel the cyber dept of the government scans IL IP space > >then notifies ISP's to notify their clients. This helps where you have > >clueless people

Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

2022-06-19 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
I would like to solicit the opinions of network operators on the practice of scanning all of, or large chunks of the internet for known vulnerabilities. In earlier times, this was generally viewed as being distinctly anti-social behavior, but perhaps attitudes have changed relative to earlier

Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

2022-06-19 Thread Jorge Amodio
IMHO not good. -J On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 5:14 AM Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > I would like to solicit the opinions of network operators on the practice > of scanning all of, or large chunks of the internet for known > vulnerabilities. > > In earlier times, this was generally viewed as being

Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

2022-06-19 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message Dovid Bender I know that in Israel the cyber dept of the government scans IL IP space >then notifies ISP's to notify their clients. This helps where you have >clueless people that don't know they have devices that can easily be >compromised. That's most interesting and I certainly did

RE: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

2022-06-19 Thread David Guo via NANOG
Also Germany and Estonia, they scan DE and EE IPs and send emails to ISPs every day. From: NANOG On Behalf Of Dovid Bender Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2022 19:51 To: Ronald F. Guilmette Cc: NANOG Subject: Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities I know that in Israel the cyber dept of the

Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

2022-06-19 Thread Mel Beckman
When researchers, or whoever, claim their scanning an altruistic service, I ask them if they would mind someone coming to their home and trying to open all the doors and windows every night. -mel beckman On Jun 19, 2022, at 6:14 PM, J. Hellenthal via NANOG wrote:  Had to send these guys a

Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

2022-06-19 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message , Mark Seiden wrote: >it should be mentioned that shadowserver also notifies those who >register as the owners of that address space. Yes. That is quite a public spirited endeavor in the best traditions of the Internet. >my thinking about this sort of thing, in general, is: > >-

Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

2022-06-19 Thread Randy Bush
> Also Germany and Estonia, they scan DE and EE IPs and send emails to > ISPs every day. being in EE space, never receiving such a notice, and lacking the hubris to think that all our systems are squeaky clean, i have my doubts. i suspect that we will be seeing folk who dress well scanning for

Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

2022-06-19 Thread Mark Seiden
btw, if you want to do this yourself, you might consider using something like https://github.com/opsdisk/scantron > On Jun 19, 2022, at 11:17 AM, Mark Seiden wrote: > > greetings. > > it should be mentioned that shadowserver also notifies those who register as > the owners of that address

Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

2022-06-19 Thread Amreesh Phokeer
Project Sonar from Rapid7 conducts internet-wide surveys and is kind enough to share the data with researchers: https://www.rapid7.com/research/project-sonar/ On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 10:24 PM Mark Seiden wrote: > btw, if you want to do this yourself, you might consider using something > like >

Re: irrd or ...?

2022-06-19 Thread Randy Bush
>> It will also take much less RAM if you turn RPKI validation off. > > oh dear ghod. do i need to turn the dancing donkeys off too? > > "Make each program do one thing well. To do a new job, build afresh > rather than complicate old programs by adding new "features"." > -- ken thompson - unix

Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

2022-06-19 Thread J. Hellenthal via NANOG
Had to send these guys a cease and desist a few years back as they became so noisy it was causing to much of a disconnect between information we were trying to compare.Can't for for more idiot services to just jump on the wagon and deploy their own scanners and pollute edges without a just cause. 

Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

2022-06-19 Thread goemon--- via NANOG
On Sun, 19 Jun 2022, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: In earlier times, this was generally viewed as being distinctly anti-social behavior, but perhaps attitudes have changed relative to earlier eras. I would thus like to know how people feel about it now, in 2022. This has not changed. -Dan

Re: irrd or ...?

2022-06-19 Thread Rubens Kuhl
On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 6:07 PM Randy Bush wrote: > > >> It will also take much less RAM if you turn RPKI validation off. > > > > oh dear ghod. do i need to turn the dancing donkeys off too? > > > > "Make each program do one thing well. To do a new job, build afresh > > rather than complicate

Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

2022-06-19 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message , Mark Seiden wrote: >btw, if you want to do this yourself, you might consider using something like > >https://github.com/opsdisk/scantron Thank you, but as I noted in the post beginning this thread, I personally have no interest in performing this type of activity at the present

Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

2022-06-19 Thread Mark Seiden
greetings. it should be mentioned that shadowserver also notifies those who register as the owners of that address space. it’s very useful. (it would be more useful if they calculated diffs and notified about changes/additions.) my thinking about this sort of thing, in general, is: - it

Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

2022-06-19 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
See shadowserver.net On Sun, Jun 19, 2022, 4:13 AM Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > I would like to solicit the opinions of network operators on the practice > of scanning all of, or large chunks of the internet for known > vulnerabilities. > > In earlier times, this was generally viewed as being

Re: Scanning the Internet for Vulnerabilities

2022-06-19 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Correction... shadowserver.org They scan the entire ipv4 internet daily for select potential vulnerabilities. On Sun, Jun 19, 2022, 11:43 AM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > See shadowserver.net > > On Sun, Jun 19, 2022, 4:13 AM Ronald F. Guilmette > wrote: >