Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream

2008-09-15 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Tue, 16 Sep 2008, Paul Ferguson wrote: In any event, the badness is still there. Lots of it. Not according to this: http://www.domainnews.com/en/general/estdomains-denies-links-to-malware-distribution.html "The company also has a reliable ally in its battle against malware in a face of In

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream

2008-09-15 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- "Paul Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Cogent is keeping tabs of the Intercage/Atrivo situation in ticket >HD000789038. Be sure to e-mail or call them referencing that >number with any information you may have to share. > >AboveNet's ticket

Re: confusing packet data

2008-09-15 Thread Nathan Ward
On 16/09/2008, at 4:43 PM, Hank Nussbacher wrote: Are you running Skype? Have you become a supernode? There is now a registry switch in 3.0 that allows you to disable supernode functionality. This would not cause him to see traffic to and from random addresses. Note that traffic is not

Re: confusing packet data

2008-09-15 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Mon, 15 Sep 2008, Jim Popovitch wrote: Are you running Skype? Have you become a supernode? There is now a registry switch in 3.0 that allows you to disable supernode functionality. -Hank This is something has been bugging me lately Etherape is a Linux tool that graphs packets arrivi

Re: confusing packet data

2008-09-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 00:43, Hank Nussbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are you running Skype? Have you become a supernode? There is now a > registry switch in 3.0 that allows you to disable supernode functionality. No. Nothing is running on this host (my laptop) when initiating etherape.

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream

2008-09-15 Thread Paul Ferguson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- "Paul Wall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Cogent is keeping tabs of the Intercage/Atrivo situation in ticket >HD000789038. Be sure to e-mail or call them referencing that >number with any information you may have to share. > >AboveNet's ticket

Re: Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream

2008-09-15 Thread Paul Wall
Paul, Cogent is keeping tabs of the Intercage/Atrivo situation in ticket HD000789038. Be sure to e-mail or call them referencing that number with any information you may have to share. AboveNet's ticket auto-responder is broken. I've been unable to get a response out of NTT (AS 2914). Driv

Re: Today's Point-2Point WAN Options

2008-09-15 Thread Paul Wall
Chris Kleban <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello Nanog, > > I'm currently looking into what are the options for enabling inter-datacenter > communication. > > Our current solution is to use ipsec/gre tunnels traversing over the > Internet. The specific needs the new solution must meet are: > > - T

Re: confusing packet data

2008-09-15 Thread Nathan Ward
On 16/09/2008, at 1:34 PM, Jim Popovitch wrote: This is something has been bugging me lately Etherape is a Linux tool that graphs packets arriving at your host, and shows paths of connectivity. I captured the graphs, at the URL below, from my Linux laptop connected to a Linksys wifi router

Re: Internet Traffic Begins to Bypass the U.S.

2008-09-15 Thread Geoff Huston
On 15/09/2008, at 10:36 PM, Joe Abley wrote: On 14 Sep 2008, at 23:38, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote: Other cable systems predated FLAG (at least for voice). The qualifier might be important. As should have been obvious from all the IIRCs and related qualifiers in my note, I wasn't in Europ

confusing packet data

2008-09-15 Thread Jim Popovitch
This is something has been bugging me lately Etherape is a Linux tool that graphs packets arriving at your host, and shows paths of connectivity. I captured the graphs, at the URL below, from my Linux laptop connected to a Linksys wifi router that is hooked to a Comcast cable modem. Why is

Re: Internet Traffic Begins to Bypass the U.S.

2008-09-15 Thread Matthew Moyle-Croft
On 15/09/2008, at 10:06 PM, Joe Abley wrote: As an example, PacRimEast still had capacity in the late 90s, strictly speaking. But given the difficulty in ordering anything other than E1s on it at that time, did it really exist as a terrestrial option for New Zealand ISPs trying to send pa

[NANOG-announce] Call for volunteers for the NANOG PC

2008-09-15 Thread Philip Smith
Hi everyone, There are going to be a few announcements over the next few days regarding all things NANOG, so please bear with us! Thanks to all who volunteered for the Steering Committee - the list of candidates to join the three continuing Steering Committee members is at http://www.nanog.org/go

Re: Today's Point-2Point WAN Options

2008-09-15 Thread list-nanog
> - Layer 2 Ethernet (Virtual Private Line): This service seems to be offered > by a lot of ISPs using various networking techniques. The price point is > attractive however packets are forwarded only at best effort across the ISP's > network which means the quality of the service will directly

Today's Point-2Point WAN Options

2008-09-15 Thread Chris Kleban
Hello Nanog, I'm currently looking into what are the options for enabling inter-datacenter communication. Our current solution is to use ipsec/gre tunnels traversing over the Internet. The specific needs the new solution must meet are: - The ability to run end-to-end QOS. - Dedicated bandwidth

NANOG44 PGP Keysigning

2008-09-15 Thread Majdi S. Abbas
Greetings, For NANOG44 in Los Angeles, we will be running the keysigning sessions during the general session breaks in the Moroccan open seating area, which is on the Mezzanine level (above the Main Galleria). If you're planning to attend any of the keysigning sessions, p

RE: Cisco uRPF failures

2008-09-15 Thread Tom Zingale (tomz)
The 3560E/3750E support uRPF as per docs: http://www.cisco.com/en/US/docs/switches/lan/catalyst3750e_3560e/softwar e/release/12.2_46_se/configuration/guide/swiprout.html#wp1388196 The unsupported command guide looks in error. > -Original Message- > From: Brandon Ewing [mailto:[EMAIL PROTE

Re: Internet Traffic Begins to Bypass the U.S.

2008-09-15 Thread Joe Abley
On 15 Sep 2008, at 05:40, Jim Mercer wrote: there is an exchange http://emix.ae, however, when i last interacted with them several years ago, it was a relatively closed club. Unless things have changed recently, it's more of a monopoly transit provider than an exchange point. It's a servi

RE: Internet Traffic Begins to Bypass the U.S.

2008-09-15 Thread Rod Beck
Hi Francois, The answer is yes. The cost of reaching Asian via the US was and is still much lower than via the cables that hug the Africain cost. And since Europe had a lot of traffic terminating in the US, it made more sense to throw it all that way than split into two major routes. Finall

Re: Internet Traffic Begins to Bypass the U.S.

2008-09-15 Thread Joe Abley
On 14 Sep 2008, at 23:38, Matthew Moyle-Croft wrote: Other cable systems predated FLAG (at least for voice). The qualifier might be important. As should have been obvious from all the IIRCs and related qualifiers in my note, I wasn't in Europe at the time I started paying attention to th

Jay Shao is out of the office.

2008-09-15 Thread Jay Shao
I will be out of the office starting 09/15/2008 and will not return until 09/21/2008. I will respond to your message when I return. Please contact with [EMAIL PROTECTED] for any production issues -

Paging Level(3) Security Operations

2008-09-15 Thread Tom Daly
Hello NANOG list, I'm trying to reach out to Level(3) Security Operations for assistance with a Denial of Service attack. So far, the normal means to contact Level(3) have failed. I can be reached directly at 603-296-1598. Thanks, Tom Daly -- Tom Daly [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dynamic Network Service

RE: [SPAM-HEADER] - Re: Internet Traffic Begins to Bypass the U.S. - Email has different SMTP TO: and MIME TO: fields in the email addresses

2008-09-15 Thread Rod Beck
Fiber opic capacity from to Europe to Asia via the African cost has always been quite slim by TransAtlantic standards. As I recollect, you have FLAG, SWM3, and SWM4. Those systems can push multi-terabits. Capacity is not fundamentally the problem, but rather the lack of competition. Also you n

Re: Internet Traffic Begins to Bypass the U.S.

2008-09-15 Thread Jim Mercer
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 10:22:27AM +0100, Alexander Harrowell wrote: > On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Jim Mercer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > oddly enough, the ISP's in the region have not caught on to the potential > > winfall of providing cost effective hosting locally, so therefore, the bulk

Re: Internet Traffic Begins to Bypass the U.S.

2008-09-15 Thread Florian Weimer
* Jean-François Mezei: > Did western europe ever really have a primary route via the USA to reach > asia ? It depends where you buy transit from. For instance, I see Baidu through AT&T, and the traffic is routed through the U.S. Some Singaporean banks and a few Koran government sites are route

Re: Internet Traffic Begins to Bypass the U.S.

2008-09-15 Thread Alexander Harrowell
On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 7:13 AM, Jim Mercer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > oddly enough, the ISP's in the region have not caught on to the potential > winfall of providing cost effective hosting locally, so therefore, the bulk > of the hosting for companies in the region is primarily done in the US,

NANOG List Monthly Post.

2008-09-15 Thread NANOG Mail List Committee
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Re: ARP Table Timeout and Mac-Address-Table Timeout

2008-09-15 Thread Steven King
I saw that one before. Thats what we based our current fix on. Frank Bulk wrote: > Steven: > > This was recently discussed on cisco-nsp: > http://marc.info/?l=cisco-nsp&m=121316151010190&w=2 > > Frank > > -Original Message- > From: Steven King [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Sunday, Sep

Atrivo/Intercage: Now Only 1 Upstream

2008-09-15 Thread Paul Ferguson
Looks like WVFiber removed them as a customer: http://www.cidr-report.org/cgi-bin/as-report?as=as27595 Now only AS32335 [PACIFICINTERNETEXCHANGE-NET] remains. - ferg -- "Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet fergdawg(at)netzero.net ferg's tech blog: http://