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Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Frank Habicht
Owen DeLong wrote: As of June, 2008, at least, AfriNIC was not using a distinct range for these. There was discussion of converting to this due to these problems. afrinic /48 are out of 2001:43f8::/29 http://www.afrinic.net/Registration/resources.htm grep -w ipv6 delegated-afrinic-20081118

Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Joe Maimon
Nathan Ward wrote: I'd prefer to make my routers respond from loopback or something. Wouldnt we all...how is that done again?

Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Jeroen Massar
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are there any parties out there routing /48 IPv6 networks globally? I ran into a supposed Catch-22 with Verizon and IPv6 address space and was looking for clarification. Let them signup to GRH (http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/) then it will be very easy to see which

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2008-11-18 Thread Jason LeBlanc
Having a mail issue looking for hotmail contact. Thanks, Jason

Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:39 PM, Michael Sinatra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/18/08 9:26 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Nathan Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish them good luck in reaching the DNS root servers. They are in critical infrastructure

Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Jack Bates
Christopher Morrow wrote: if you want v6 adoption... latency, path length, jitter, performance all should closely match v4 specs. Expecting a US customer to be 'ok' with 300ms to reach a US site 30 miles (as the crow flies) via Germany... not good. V6 so far doesn't have the same $$ and

Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:26:36PM -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote: traceroute6 to the ISC's v6 allocation(s) for f-root ... (from inside 701) oh, not working... traceroute6 to ipv6.google.com from inside 701, oh... not working either. vzb's v6 table is far from

Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Jeroen Massar
Michael Sinatra wrote: On 11/18/08 9:26 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Nathan Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish them good luck in reaching the DNS root servers. They are in critical infrastructure space, which is a single /32 with traceroute6 to the

Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Jeroen Massar
Leo Bicknell wrote: In a message written on Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:26:36PM -0500, Christopher Morrow wrote: traceroute6 to the ISC's v6 allocation(s) for f-root ... (from inside 701) oh, not working... traceroute6 to ipv6.google.com from inside 701, oh... not working either. vzb's v6

Re: Router Choice

2008-11-18 Thread Neil J. McRae
Try out the GUI thing. I know people will go GUIs are for idiots! and all that. Agree, the SAM is excellent, esp the XML interface to it. Regards, Neil. -- Neil J. McRae -- Alive and Kicking. [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: NAT66 and the subscriber prefix length

2008-11-18 Thread Tim Durack
On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not long ago, ARIN changed the IPv6 policy so that residential subscribers could be issued with a /56 instead of the normal /48 assignment. This was done so that ISPs

Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Geoff Huston
On 19/11/2008, at 4:26 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Nathan Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish them good luck in reaching the DNS root servers. They are in critical infrastructure space, which is a single /32 with traceroute6 to the ISC's v6

Re: NAT66 and the subscriber prefix length

2008-11-18 Thread Crist Clark
On 11/18/2008 at 11:03 AM, Tim Durack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not long ago, ARIN changed the IPv6 policy so that residential subscribers could be issued with a /56

Re: NAT66 and the subscriber prefix length

2008-11-18 Thread Tim Durack
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 2:33 PM, Crist Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: On 11/18/2008 at 11:03 AM, Tim Durack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, Nov 14, 2008 at 2:28 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 14 Nov 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not long ago, ARIN changed

Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Antonio Querubin
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Christopher Morrow wrote: traceroute6 to the ISC's v6 allocation(s) for f-root ... (from inside 701) oh, not working... traceroute6 to ipv6.google.com from inside 701, oh... not working either. vzb's v6 table is far from complete :( which is pretty painful. That's not

Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Tue, Nov 18, 2008 at 12:26 PM, Christopher Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Nathan Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish them good luck in reaching the DNS root servers. They are in critical infrastructure space, which is a single /32 with traceroute6

Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Perry Lorier
Having no route is not a problem, you should get a destination unreachable directly and all is fine because IPv4 should be used as a fallback. The big problem is when you have a route to them, but they don't have a route back. You don't get destination unreachables, but instead get

Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Paul Timmins
You too, huh? On Tue, 2008-11-18 at 10:05 -1000, Antonio Querubin wrote: On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Christopher Morrow wrote: traceroute6 to the ISC's v6 allocation(s) for f-root ... (from inside 701) oh, not working... traceroute6 to ipv6.google.com from inside 701, oh... not working either.

Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Kevin Loch
Christopher Morrow wrote: GRH is too slow to get me an answer on what it thinks the v6 table size should be :( Geoff says though: 1627 routes (http://bgp.potaroo.net/v6/as2.0/index.html) route-views6 is another good place to look. 1481 is the max seen there. Perhaps there are some

Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Michael Sinatra
On 11/18/08 9:59 AM, Jeroen Massar wrote: Michael Sinatra wrote: On 11/18/08 9:26 AM, Christopher Morrow wrote: On Mon, Nov 17, 2008 at 9:02 PM, Nathan Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wish them good luck in reaching the DNS root servers. They are in critical infrastructure space, which

Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Antonio Querubin
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Paul Timmins wrote: You too, huh? Is your IPv6 tunnel with vzb using GRE or 6-in-4 encapsulation? Antonio Querubin whois: AQ7-ARIN

Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Paul Timmins
GRE. The problem we have (I think) is that the tunnel goes to something other than the direct router we have the DS3 on. The tunnel goes: vzb-ds3 router-ethernet-another router We aren't able to do more than a 1500 byte MTU, so when they send packets larger than 1380 or so, the packets never

Re: IPv6 routing /48s

2008-11-18 Thread Pekka Savola
On Tue, 18 Nov 2008, Jeroen Massar wrote: Check: http://www.space.net/~gert/RIPE/ipv6-filters.html for a list of suggested filter expressions that cover all of these correctly. Unfortunately, the JunOS version of the strict filter is blocking /32's from APNIC region as well. The offending