[Nanog-futures] observation on long delays

2009-05-14 Thread Lucy Lynch
All - I'm a rare poster to the nanog list these days but I sent a traceroute in response to the google thread today - thinking that the working path from the NW to .de to Mountain View of some interest. It took 40 mins from hitting send for the post to reach the list - at which point, it was

Re: [Nanog-futures] observation on long delays

2009-05-14 Thread Lucy Lynch
On Thu, 14 May 2009, Randy Epstein wrote: Lucy, snip It took 40 mins from hitting send for the post to reach the list - at which point, it was really a dead letter. The interesting stuff was already over. I suspect that delayed posts on this thread will continue to dribble in for a while

Re: questions about DVFS in saving energy

2009-05-14 Thread Karl Southern
Tomas L. Byrnes wrote: Basically the CPU scaling on the host makes the guest OS fall apart. Apologies for the general noise (and even more apologies for stepping outside of the nanog scope), but if it's timing related issues does /usepmtimer not resolve this issue for the VMs? It certainly

Joel M. Wheeler is out of the office.

2009-05-14 Thread JMWheeler
I will be out of the office starting 05/14/2009 and will not return until 05/15/2009. I will be out of the office on Thursday 5/14. I will repsond to your e-mail when I return on Friday 5/15. - Please consider the environment before printing this email

delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Steve Williams
am seeing significant delays in getting to google. anyone else seeing this? $ traceroute www.google.com traceroute: Warning: www.google.com has multiple addresses; using 74.125.53.147 traceroute to www.l.google.com (74.125.53.147), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 cisco-190 (129.116.190.250)

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Athanasios Douitsis
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Steve Williams willi...@csr.utexas.eduwrote: am seeing significant delays in getting to google. anyone else seeing this? $ traceroute www.google.com traceroute: Warning: www.google.com has multiple addresses; using 74.125.53.147 traceroute to

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Mario Fernandez
Seeing the same thing from NY using NTT, we routed via Cogent which does not seem to be having the problem. On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:51 AM, Athanasios Douitsis aduit...@gmail.comwrote: On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 6:48 PM, Steve Williams willi...@csr.utexas.edu wrote: am seeing significant

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Adam Kennedy
Same here through ATT (AS7018) and Level3 (AS7911). On 5/14/09 11:48 AM, Steve Williams willi...@csr.utexas.edu wrote: am seeing significant delays in getting to google. anyone else seeing this? $ traceroute www.google.com traceroute: Warning: www.google.com has multiple addresses; using

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Eduardo Silvestre
Hello, Same issue in portugal and spain. pt:~# traceroute www.google.com traceroute: Warning: www.google.com has multiple addresses; using 209.85.227.147 traceroute to www.l.google.com (209.85.227.147), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 ge130-1000m.cr2.lisboa.nfsi.pt (81.92.200.126) 0.203 ms

RE: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Crooks, Sam
Also seeing this in Dallas, TX area, from ATT and Verizon -Original Message- From: Mario Fernandez [mailto:ma...@fernandez.ca] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 10:53 AM To: Athanasios Douitsis Cc: na...@merit.edu Subject: Re: delays to google Seeing the same thing from NY using

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread William McCall
Seeing this on blackberry and Verizon business. On 5/14/09, Steve Williams willi...@csr.utexas.edu wrote: am seeing significant delays in getting to google. anyone else seeing this? $ traceroute www.google.com traceroute: Warning: www.google.com has multiple addresses; using 74.125.53.147

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread nevin
$ traceroute www.google.com traceroute to www.google.com (72.14.205.103), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 ge4-1.core.mpls.gippy.net (216.243.170.254) 1.285 ms 1.500 ms 1.451 ms 2 209-240-78-33.static.iphouse.net (209.240.78.33) 1.418 ms 1.597 ms 1.887 ms 3

Re: Packet Loss to Google, others

2009-05-14 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
Yeah, definitely seeing it here. Gmail via POP has been dead for a while too. This is via Unite Private Networks (via Qwest ultimately) in Lincoln, Neb. Last login: Thu May 14 10:35:12 on ttys000 204-Andy:~ andyring$ ping google.com PING google.com (74.125.45.100): 56 data bytes 64 bytes

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Joe Greco
We are tracking it here: http://isc.sans.org/diary.html?storyid=6388 Received some complaints about being unable to reach HP's download web site. Seems reachable but alternately nonresponsive, Service unavailable, HP fail page, fail to resolve, etc. (h2.www2.hp.com) Maybe related, maybe

RE: questions about DVFS in saving energy

2009-05-14 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
Apologies for skirting close, but I think power consumption and heat dissipation are pretty big operator costs, and anything we can do to reduce those are beneficial to the bottom line; never mind the environment. More below: -Original Message- From: Karl Southern

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Robert Glover
We are not experiencing any issues seeing google: [r...@hermes ~]# traceroute www.google.com traceroute: Warning: www.google.com has multiple addresses; using 66.102.7.104 traceroute to www.l.google.com (66.102.7.104), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 router (216.139.0.65) 0.271 ms 0.746 ms

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Lucy Lynch
pac-nw going to Frankfurt to get to Mountain view: traceroute to 74.125.87.101 (74.125.87.101), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 ext-gw.lan (192.168.11.1) 0.983 ms 1.550 ms 1.795 ms 2 73.90.28.1 (73.90.28.1) 21.859 ms 21.945 ms 22.126 ms 3 68.85.148.113 (68.85.148.113) 22.312 ms

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Justin M. Streiner
Google and gmail look fine from here (University of Pittsburgh)... no loss, ~30ms RTT, reachable through TransitRail. I'm guessing whatever the issue is has been resolved, or the storm has passed? jms On Thu, 14 May 2009, and...@arsenaleartisans.com wrote: Sessions time out or fail from

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread mikael krantz
Works gr8 in europe from direct peers with Google: 6 72.14.198.177 (72.14.198.177) 45.648 ms 1.259 ms 1.069 ms 7 209.85.252.186 (209.85.252.186) 1.455 ms 1.350 ms 1.400 ms 8 209.85.254.153 (209.85.254.153) 20.040 ms 20.494 ms 20.226 ms 9 216.239.48.10 (216.239.48.10) 59.618 ms

RE: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Mullins, Douglas
conficker? Doug -Original Message- From: Patrick Darden [mailto:dar...@armc.org] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 12:13 PM To: na...@merit.edu Subject: Re: delays to google Fixed? 5 mins ago: 1 gw1.armc.org (68.153.29.1) 0.571 ms 0.705 ms 0.732 ms 2 65.14.131.185 (65.14.131.185) 2.330

Re: Packet Loss to Google, others

2009-05-14 Thread Joel Esler
We have been receiving reports for about the past hour and a half at http://isc.sans.org and via Twitter. The situation appears to be clearing up now. J On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 12:13 PM, rar r...@syssrc.com wrote: We are seeing issues through our Verizon, and Level3 connections. Fine through

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Graeme Fowler
On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 12:34 -0400, Justin M. Streiner wrote: I'm guessing whatever the issue is has been resolved, or the storm has passed? http://www.google.com/appsstatus#rm:1/di:1/do:1/ddo:0 Not that it would have been much use to you at the time. Graeme

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Nuno Vieira - nfsi telecom
maybe is a good time to enable IPv6 :-) We noticed issues on IPv4, but IPv6 was working perfectly (we are on Google IPv6 program)... I was able to access google all the times, as i was using IPv6 as preferred transport IPv4: traceroute to www.google.com (209.85.227.104), 30 hops max, 40

Re: RE: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread A2thaH
Google ack'da maintenance on their core network did not go as planned-Forced traffic to one peer link that was unable to handle all the traffic. Maintenance has been rolled back. Issue has been restored, -Adam On May 14, 2009 12:44pm, Mullins, Douglas dmull...@covad.com wrote: conficker?

Two interfaces one subnet (summary)

2009-05-14 Thread Ivan Pepelnjak
Anyone else want to unconfused Ben? I obviously cannot. The numerous misconceptions propagated in this thread prompted me to go through the relevant sections of RFC 1122 and write a short article on multihomed IP host issues. http://wiki.nil.com/Multihomed_IP_hosts Your contributions, either

Re: RE: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Joel Esler
[Citation Needed] On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:21 PM, a2t...@gmail.com wrote: Google ack'da maintenance on their core network did not go as planned-Forced traffic to one peer link that was unable to handle all the traffic. Maintenance has been rolled back. Issue has been restored, -Adam On

another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-14 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Dear Sprint EVDO people, Your man-in-the-middle hijacking of UDP/53 DNS queries against nameservers that I choose to query from my laptop on Sprint EVDO is not appreciated. Even less appreciated is your complete blocking of TCP/53 DNS queries. Queries from my lab: r...@click [14] %dig

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Peter Beckman
On Thu, 14 May 2009, Graeme Fowler wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 12:34 -0400, Justin M. Streiner wrote: I'm guessing whatever the issue is has been resolved, or the storm has passed? http://www.google.com/appsstatus#rm:1/di:1/do:1/ddo:0 Not that it would have been much use to you at the

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Andy Ringsmuth
It's starting to show up in the news media as well: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090514/D9864P900.html Google glitch disrupts search engine, e-mail inline: email_this_page_sm.gif Email this Story May 14, 12:54 PM (ET) MOUNTAIN VIEW, Calif. (AP) - Technical problems at Google

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Seth Mattinen
Andy Ringsmuth wrote: It's starting to show up in the news media as well: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090514/D9864P900.html Google glitch disrupts search engine, e-mail Because we let google control our fate far too much. Personally, I think this thread is more off topic than

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Matthew Petach
On 5/14/09, Peter Beckman beck...@angryox.com wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2009, Graeme Fowler wrote: On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 12:34 -0400, Justin M. Streiner wrote: I'm guessing whatever the issue is has been resolved, or the storm has passed?

Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-14 Thread Owen DeLong
While you're at it, it would be nice if SPRINT also fixed the problems with ports TCP/25 and TCP/587. Another disgruntled SPRINT customer, Owen On May 14, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: Dear Sprint EVDO people, Your man-in-the-middle hijacking of UDP/53 DNS queries against

Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-14 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Can you be more specific? My TCP/465 and TCP/587 mail submission works great over Sprint. I'm not even trying to do submission on port 25 (in fact, my mail servers send rude messages if you try AUTH to a port 25 listener) so I can't speak to that. -r Owen DeLong o...@delong.com writes:

Re: delays to google

2009-05-14 Thread Randy Bush
going to Frankfurt to get to Mountain view: do not eat the wurst in the senator lounge randy

Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-14 Thread Seth Mattinen
Owen DeLong wrote: While you're at it, it would be nice if SPRINT also fixed the problems with ports TCP/25 and TCP/587. Never tried 25, but I know 587 is fine through a tethered handset my (extremely non-technical) significant other uses daily. Shouldn't we all be using the submission port

you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-14 Thread John Levine
Dear Sprint EVDO people, Your man-in-the-middle hijacking of UDP/53 DNS queries against nameservers that I choose to query from my laptop on Sprint EVDO is not appreciated. Even less appreciated is your complete blocking of TCP/53 DNS queries. If I were an ISP, and I knew that approximately

RE: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-14 Thread Dave Larter
I agree, running monitoring from my laptop at home at nights/weekends/vacations/holidays... I need to use most of those ports. My answer was VNP/tunnel everything. -Original Message- From: John Levine [mailto:jo...@iecc.com] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 6:36 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Cc:

Re: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-14 Thread Marshall Eubanks
I use SSH tunnels for all mail, but I have had no problems with DNS over Sprint EVD0 (the OP's issue). Regards Marshall On May 14, 2009, at 6:48 PM, Dave Larter wrote: I agree, running monitoring from my laptop at home at nights/weekends/vacations/holidays... I need to use most of those

Re: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-14 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 20090514223605.88104.qm...@simone.iecc.com, John Levine writes: Dear Sprint EVDO people, Your man-in-the-middle hijacking of UDP/53 DNS queries against nameservers that I choose to query from my laptop on Sprint EVDO is not appreciated. Even less appreciated is your complete

RE: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-14 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
Disclaimer: I have a dog in this fight, since ThreatSTOP is dependent on DNS/TCP. -Original Message- From: Mark Andrews [mailto:mark_andr...@isc.org] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:59 PM To: John Levine Cc: nanog@nanog.org; r...@seastrom.com Subject: Re: you're not interesting,was Re:

Re: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-14 Thread Andre Gironda
On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 4:58 PM, Mark Andrews mark_andr...@isc.org wrote: If I were an ISP, and I knew that approximately 99.9% of customer queries to random name servers was malware doing fake site phishing or misconfigured PCs that will work OK and avoid a support call if they answer the DNS

Re: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-14 Thread Mark Andrews
In message 70d072392e56884193e3d2de09c097a91f3...@pascal.zaphodb.org, Tomas L. Byrnes writes: Disclaimer: I have a dog in this fight, since ThreatSTOP is dependent on DNS/TCP. -Original Message- From: Mark Andrews [mailto:mark_andr...@isc.org] Sent: Thursday, May 14, 2009 4:59 PM

RE: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-14 Thread Skywing
You are brave indeed to trust your packets over the air without a VPN or tunnel of some sort. While it sounds like Sprint is doing something, for lack of a better word, lame, you would be well advised to not trust your packets to the built-in cell encryption (obfuscation). - S -Original

Re: install in dallas

2009-05-14 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 3:22 AM, Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: we need a gsr and a few more reasonably sized devices racked and cabled in dallas and would appreciate private email recommending a local contractor. This is a little late, but...wkumari had setup (or started to) a while ago:

Managing your network devices via console

2009-05-14 Thread Mehmet Akcin
Hello, It's always cool to have console access to routers/switches and nowadays they are going from RS-232 to RJ-45 as a standart. I have got Avocent DSR 2035 which is a KVM+Serial console (all in one).. but while I was able to have it work against servers via KVM or/and Serial , I was unable to

RE: Managing your network devices via console

2009-05-14 Thread Tomas L. Byrnes
I've found Avocents to be a nightmare, and the company to be horrible to deal with. They work fine as a local console switch, but they are absurdly expensive for that use. The rest of their features are byzantine in implementation and usage, and their support and licensing policies exorbitant.

Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-14 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Well said, if you can't build it, don't trust it. Andrew (top posted as per previous convention) Skywing wrote: You are brave indeed to trust your packets over the air without a VPN or tunnel of some sort. While it sounds like Sprint is doing something, for lack of a better word, lame,

Re: Managing your network devices via console

2009-05-14 Thread Seth Mattinen
Tomas L. Byrnes wrote: I've found Avocents to be a nightmare, and the company to be horrible to deal with. They work fine as a local console switch, but they are absurdly expensive for that use. The rest of their features are byzantine in implementation and usage, and their support and

Re: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden]

2009-05-14 Thread Mans Nilsson
Subject: Re: you're not interesting, was Re: another brick in the wall[ed garden] Date: Fri, May 15, 2009 at 09:58:32AM +1000 Quoting Mark Andrews (mark_andr...@isc.org): And what's the next protocol that is going to be stomped on? Anything except http; at which point everything will

RE: Managing your network devices via console

2009-05-14 Thread Crooks, Sam
Cisco makes a 16 port Async card for ISR routers, they even bundle it with a 2811 router for fairly inexpensive $$$... Cisco2811-16TS is the partnum I think You can scale up very high or down very low for your console needs with cisco routers, and inexpensive used or obsolete routers are