Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-16 Thread Jack Bates
Erik Fichtner wrote: And yet, all upgrades can be postponed with the right... motivation. Hmmm, you do know that motivation may have strictly been, Your maintenance corresponds with a major event, can you put it off for a day? The maintenance in question has obviously been marked

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-16 Thread Chris Woodfield
What's interesting is that the !NANOG part of the universe presumes the maintenance was to be performed by Twitter, not by their carrier (i.e. server, not network, upgrades). Given the fact that the WhaleFail has become a commonly-recognizable sight, I can see this make people a bit, um,

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-16 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jun 16, 2009, at 10:48 AM, Jack Bates wrote: Erik Fichtner wrote: And yet, all upgrades can be postponed with the right... motivation. Hmmm, you do know that motivation may have strictly been, Your maintenance corresponds with a major event, can you put it off for a day? The

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-16 Thread Steve Pirk
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009, Marshall Eubanks wrote: Tehran is currently UTC/GMT +4:30 hours. The current downtime is for 2:00 PM Pacific, or 1:30 AM in Tehran. That seems to be unfortunately still prime time for the nightly demonstrations, one of which is going on now. If the idea is to avoid such

RE: spamhaus drop list

2009-06-16 Thread Quinn Mahoney
Is there a competing droplist, that can be compared against Spamhaus's droplist? That seems like an extraordinary claim, so I'm not satisfied with the evidence provided. Is this not the best droplist? -Original Message- From: Dean Anderson [mailto:d...@av8.com] Sent: Monday, June 15,

Re: spamhaus drop list

2009-06-16 Thread sthaug
Is there a competing droplist, that can be compared against Spamhaus's droplist? That seems like an extraordinary claim, so I'm not satisfied with the evidence provided. Is this not the best droplist? Obviously the Spamhaus DROP list should be evaluated - you should not use such lists

Re: spamhaus drop list

2009-06-16 Thread Peter Dambier
Also I don't like those lists at all http://www.heise.de/ix/nixspam/dnsbl_en/ Heise do print the very important magazines IX, CT and others in germany. They depend on their emails coming through. Kind regards Peter Quinn Mahoney wrote: Is there a competing droplist, that can be compared

Re: spamhaus drop list

2009-06-16 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 16, 2009, at 2:00 PM, Quinn Mahoney wrote: Is there a competing droplist, that can be compared against Spamhaus's droplist? That seems like an extraordinary claim, so I'm not satisfied with the evidence provided. Is this not the best droplist? Extraordinary claims require

Re: spamhaus drop list

2009-06-16 Thread Peter Dambier
http://wnagele.com/2007/06/19/spamhouseorg-vs-nicat/ Another problem with spamhaus, they want to earn money. The Pirates Party in germany is a nonprofit. Nevertheless our mailers use a fixed addresses and when you query spamhaus long enough from a fixed address you are put on a blacklist and fed

Re: spamhaus drop list

2009-06-16 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 16, 2009, at 4:43 PM, Peter Dambier wrote: http://wnagele.com/2007/06/19/spamhouseorg-vs-nicat/ Another problem with spamhaus, they want to earn money. The Pirates Party in germany is a nonprofit. Nevertheless our mailers use a fixed addresses and when you query spamhaus long enough

Re: spamhaus drop list

2009-06-16 Thread John Levine
Is there a competing droplist, that can be compared against Spamhaus's droplist? Not that I've ever seen. Nobody else has the breadth of data that Spamhaus does. I've been using it for ages and based on zero complaints, it's never blocked anything that any of my users wanted. R's, John

[NANOG-announce] change in roles on the program committee

2009-06-16 Thread Todd Underwood
today, at our lunchtime meeting, the nanog program committee selected a new chair, david meyer of cisco and university of oregon, and a new vice-chair, tom daly of dynamic network services. please join me in cogratulating them in person if you're here at nanog. for the past two years, ren provo

Re: Cogent input

2009-06-16 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Steve Bertrand wrote: Stephen Kratzer wrote: And, they have no plans to support IPv6. Ouch! I hope this is a non-starter for a lot of folks. read the rest of the thread... joel Steve

Re: Cogent input

2009-06-16 Thread Seth Mattinen
Justin Shore wrote: Paul Timmins wrote: GlobalCrossing told me today I can order native IPv6 anywhere on their network. Don't know if they count as Tier 1 on your list, though. VZB has given me tunnels for a while, hopefully they'll get their pMTU issue fixed so we can do more interesting

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-16 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 16 Jun 2009 09:48:07 -0500 Jack Bates jba...@brightok.net wrote: Erik Fichtner wrote: And yet, all upgrades can be postponed with the right... motivation. Hmmm, you do know that motivation may have strictly been, Your maintenance corresponds with a major event, can you put

Re: spamhaus drop list

2009-06-16 Thread Bret Clark
John Levine wrote: Not that I've ever seen. Nobody else has the breadth of data that Spamhaus does. I've been using it for ages and based on zero complaints, it's never blocked anything that any of my users wanted. R's, John I have to agree with this...I'm somewhat surprised to see some

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-16 Thread Jeremy L. Gaddis
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:05 PM, Steve Pirkor...@pirk.com wrote: There are some, ehrm, boxen out on the 'net to allow them to get around the active blocking going on, but most of the citizen reporters are unable to even get a conection to allow proxying out. Some serious censoring of 'net

Re: Verio taking twitter down during Iran Election Riots?

2009-06-16 Thread Alex Thurlow
An update here. Reuters is reporting that the US State Department is behind this maintenance being pushed back. http://www.reuters.com/article/internetNews/idUSWBT01137420090616?feedType=RSSfeedName=internetNewsrpc=22sp=true I find it very interesting that the US government is seeing the use

Re: Cogent input

2009-06-16 Thread Michael K. Smith
On 6/11/09 7:37 AM, Steve Bertrand st...@ibctech.ca wrote: Stephen Kratzer wrote: And, they have no plans to support IPv6. Ouch! I hope this is a non-starter for a lot of folks. Steve To quote Randy, I encourage all my competitors to do this. Mike