Re: ATT and having two BGP peers

2009-07-13 Thread Stephen Kratzer
Use a /30 across the circuit and do multihop BGP using other IPs. On Friday 10 July 2009 13:48:15 Jay Nakamura wrote: We are getting an Ethernet DIA circuit from ATT but they insist that they can't BGP peer with 2 routers on our side. The WAN circuit can only have /30 they say. Has anyone

RE: OEMs for X2 10G LAN PHY optics

2009-07-13 Thread Chad Burnham
HI, We have been very happy with Champion and NHR for such equipment: http://www.championone.net/ http://www.networkhardware.com/ Stellar pricing and support. Chad Chad D Burnham Telecommunications Network Planner University Technology Services - Network Services University of Denver 2100

RE: OEMs for X2 10G LAN PHY optics

2009-07-13 Thread Ric Moseley
Try http://www.advantageoptics.com/. Ric. Softlayer. www.softlayer.com. -Original Message- From: Chad Burnham [mailto:cburn...@du.edu] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 11:07 AM To: Adam Rothschild; Duane Waddle Cc: na...@merit.edu Subject: RE: OEMs for X2 10G LAN PHY optics HI, We have

Public/testing 4to6 gateway?

2009-07-13 Thread Rick Ernst
Either they don't exist, or my Google-fu is particularly bad this morning. I'm trying to get my toes wet with IPv6. I've established an internal 6to4/4to6 tunnel. I'd also like to have a testbed for access to public v6 sites. I'm also trying to find some clue at my upstreams, but figured I'd

RE: Public/testing 4to6 gateway?

2009-07-13 Thread Chad Burnham
Rick, I use this one: http://www.tunnelbroker.net/ Free! Chad -Original Message- From: Rick Ernst [mailto:na...@shreddedmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 10:24 AM To: NANOG Subject: Public/testing 4to6 gateway? Either they don't exist, or my Google-fu is particularly bad this

RE: OEMs for X2 10G LAN PHY optics

2009-07-13 Thread Ballard, Eric
All, I would like to second the vote for NHR(Network Hardware). I have purchased from Joe Zender there for years and the support, price, warranty, and quality has been outstanding. I placed his contact info below, because it is truly a rare thing when I can say he is a great sales person.

Re: Public/testing 4to6 gateway?

2009-07-13 Thread Peter Dambier
Hello Rick, try traceroute to 192.88.99.1 (192.88.99.1), 64 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 yttrium.anul.nsa (7.19.30.39) 3 ms 1 ms 1 ms 2 217.0.116.228 (217.0.116.228) 47 ms 46 ms * 3 217.0.78.50 (217.0.78.50) 58 ms 46 ms 45 ms 4 217.239.40.177 (217.239.40.177) 48 ms 51 ms 49 ms

RE: OEMs for X2 10G LAN PHY optics

2009-07-13 Thread Paul Stewart
Yeah, just don't ask a certain female sales person there for more than a few quotes without buying... I was utterly embarrassed while dealing with NHR - never been told off by a commissioned sales person before. Requested a series of quotes on a Cisco GSR and made it very clear we already had a

NANOG 47 announcements

2009-07-13 Thread David Meyer
Folks, A few announcements: (i).Thank everyone again for attending NANOG 46. The NANOG 46 survey is open for one more week. If you haven't taken the survey yet, please see

Re: Public/testing 4to6 gateway?

2009-07-13 Thread Rick Ernst
Multiple responses of tunnelbroker.net. Couldn't have been any easier to setup and get going. Thanks! On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 9:31 AM, Chad Burnham cburn...@du.edu wrote: Rick, I use this one: http://www.tunnelbroker.net/ Free! Chad -Original Message- From: Rick Ernst

3rd Party Router Comparisons and Testing

2009-07-13 Thread Brad Fleming
Hello all, I was wondering if anyone has a good, trusted, non-partial source for 3rd party testing and/or comparisons of the major routing hardware vendors. I'm willing to pay for a subscription / membership to an organization if the information is well assembled recent. Specifically,

H3C Switches/Routers

2009-07-13 Thread Justin Krejci
Nanog, I was just looking at the H3C 12500 enterprise product for which I received a slideshow presentation on its features and comparisons to Nexus 7018, Foundry/Brocade RX32, Juniper EX8218 and Force10 E1200. It does not look like they have a significant market share but make a lot of bold

MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Seth Mattinen
I'm curious if anyone might know what the future of the MGE line of UPS systems are. My concern is that they're dead-end since being merged into APC, and APC wanting to sell me APC stuff. The problem I face is that my facility was designed with separate equipment spaces, which is great for normal

RE: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Dixon, Justin
I'm curious if anyone might know what the future of the MGE line of UPS systems are. My concern is that they're dead-end since being merged into APC, and APC wanting to sell me APC stuff. The problem I face is that my facility was designed with separate equipment spaces, which is great for

Re: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Dan Armstrong
We have 3 big Comet systems, and we're absolutely delighted with them. Their service is the best we receive from any vendor we deal with. On 13-Jul-09, at 3:42 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: I'm curious if anyone might know what the future of the MGE line of UPS systems are. My concern is

Please do not CC NANOG when e-mailing Dean Anderson [was: Can someone from SORBS contact me offlist?]

2009-07-13 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
[SNIP] Everyone, Please do not CC nanog@nanog.org when replying to one of Dean Anderson's ... uh ... missives[*]. We do not see the original, so by replying and CC'ing the list, you are helping him get his ... er ... message[*] to a wider audience. And if you have actually read any of

Re: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Benjamin Billon
Or are you talking about Eaton's? http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/SearchResults/CT_136576 Dixon, Justin a écrit : I'm curious if anyone might know what the future of the MGE line of UPS systems are. My concern is that they're dead-end since being merged into APC, and APC

Cisco 12000 series routers and IOS XR.

2009-07-13 Thread Jim Wininger
Is anyone on the list running the Cisco 12000 Series routers with XR? We have a couple of these in our network and are having a few issues with them. Specifically the line cards will reboot for some unknown reason (12000-SIP-501). We recently replaced one of the cards and the new hardware (6mo

RE: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Wallace Keith
While I still have a bunch of MGE Comet systems running, we did take one electrical room and replace them with Symmetra PX's, It did require some conduit work as they were moved from the wall to the center (but they are not as deep as a Comet) , to give the required cleareances. These are not

RE: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Gregory Boehnlein
We have 3 big Comet systems, and we're absolutely delighted with them. Their service is the best we receive from any vendor we deal with. I'll second that. We have a 50 KVA MGE Comet and it has been rock solid, and their support is excellent.

RE: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Buhrmaster, Gary
Or are you talking about Eaton's? http://www.eaton.com/EatonCom/SearchResults/CT_136576 History (as I recall it). Schneider Electric bought MGE late 2003 Schneider Electric bought APC late 2006 (and merges APC/MGE product line, which has overlap) Schneider Electric sold small MGE product

Re: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Adam LaFountain
I'm curious if anyone might know what the future of the MGE line of UPS systems are. My concern is that they're dead-end since being merged into APC, and APC wanting to sell me APC stuff. The problem I face is that my facility was designed with separate equipment spaces, which is great for

RE: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Erik Amundson
We asked our local APC rep that exact question last week. He told us that the MGE line of UPSes fill a whole that APC doesn't have in their own lineup, and they will continue being sold as the product for folks absolutely require a typical double-conversion online UPS. As opposed to the

RE: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread ryan.slater
Take this with the grain of salt that I do not work for APC, but for a sister company. The word that I have heard is that they are in no rush to discontinue any of the product line. In fact rumor is that APC was very happy to have the MGE products available to them for sale to customers. As a

RE: Cisco 12000 series routers and IOS XR.

2009-07-13 Thread Scott Berkman
We have 2 12k's on our borders and both are running IOS GS code, but are rock solid. -Scott -Original Message- From: Jim Wininger [mailto:jwinin...@indianafiber.net] Sent: Monday, July 13, 2009 4:20 PM To: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Cisco 12000 series routers and IOS XR. Is

Re: Cisco 12000 series routers and IOS XR.

2009-07-13 Thread Dan Snyder
We also have a couple running full tables of BGP with XR code and they have been running solid for a couple of years now with no problems. -Dan On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Scott Berkman sc...@sberkman.net wrote: We have 2 12k's on our borders and both are running IOS GS code, but are rock

Re: Please do not CC NANOG when e-mailing Dean Anderson [was: Can someone from SORBS contact me offlist?]

2009-07-13 Thread jamie
How about, Don't reply to Dean Anderson. :-) On Mon, Jul 13, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.netwrote: [SNIP] Everyone, Please do not CC nanog@nanog.org when replying to one of Dean Anderson's ... uh ... missives[*]. We do not see the original, so by replying and

Re: MGE UPS Systems

2009-07-13 Thread Seth Mattinen
ryan.sla...@tac.com wrote: Take this with the grain of salt that I do not work for APC, but for a sister company. The word that I have heard is that they are in no rush to discontinue any of the product line. In fact rumor is that APC was very happy to have the MGE products available to them

Re: Cisco 12000 series routers and IOS XR.

2009-07-13 Thread Jim Wininger
What release are you running? We are currently at 3.6.2 (as recommended by Cisco (our SE and some upper levels)). On 7/13/09 6:15 PM, Dan Snyder sliple...@gmail.com wrote: We also have a couple running full tables of BGP with XR code and they have been running solid for a couple of years now

Re: Public/testing 4to6 gateway?

2009-07-13 Thread Nathan Ward
On 14/07/2009, at 4:23 AM, Rick Ernst wrote: Either they don't exist, or my Google-fu is particularly bad this morning. I'm trying to get my toes wet with IPv6. I've established an internal 6to4/4to6 tunnel. I'd also like to have a testbed for access to public v6 sites. I'm also trying