The other problem is that when a SP has a customer who can't figure it
out, a typical course of action is to just register the route for
them rather than try to explain it to them. Unfortunately, the same
thing as above happens here, you end up with a big pile of people who
register a
Obviously using 40 gig waves as the foundation blocks of one's network provides
some economies of scale and per unit capex cost savings.
I would be curious if anyone knows how to convert this SONET/SDH 40 gig waves
into a 40 gig Ethernet handoff?
Afterall, OC768 route cards are a tad
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:14:59AM +0100, Rod Beck wrote:
Obviously using 40 gig waves as the foundation blocks of one's network
provides some economies of scale and per unit capex cost savings.
I would be curious if anyone knows how to convert this SONET/SDH 40
gig waves into a 40 gig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3WcWBIQ11A
Marco Hogewoning of Dutch ISP XS4ALL talks about the roll out of IPv6
in their 300,000 customer network. German modem vendor AVM supplies
them with a CPE that supports native IPv6, although it does have some
limitations that need to be ironed out.
I hate doing this, but I'd appreciate it if someone who can look at
routing issues inside AS209 would contact me. We're not a customer, but
one of our customers noticed they (actually, our whole network) couldn't
reach one of your multihomed customers. Traces stop at
-Original Message-
From: Richard A Steenbergen [mailto:r...@e-gerbil.net]
Sent: Fri 8/14/2009 2:17 PM
To: Rod Beck
Cc: Matthew Moyle-Croft; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:14:59AM +0100, Rod Beck wrote:
Obviously using 40 gig waves as
We are a small ISP that is in the process of setting up IPv6 on our
network. We already have the ARIN allocation and i have a couple
routers and servers running dual stack. Wondering if someone out there
would be willing to give me a few pointers on setting up my addressing
scheme? I've
Chris Gotstein wrote:
We are a small ISP that is in the process of setting up IPv6 on our
network. We already have the ARIN allocation and i have a couple
routers and servers running dual stack. Wondering if someone out there
would be willing to give me a few pointers on setting up my
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 12:03:24PM -0400, Joe Provo wrote:
Experience proves otherwise. L3's filtergen is a great counter-example,
where the customer-specific import policy dictates sources to believe
regardless of what other stuff is in their local mirror. It happily
drops prefixes not
I think we had to let ARIN know the time frame of deploying IPv6 and how
many customers we expected to put on in the first couple years. They
did not ask for an addressing scheme.
Reading over the RFC's and other IPv6 resources, we have decided to hand
out /56's to small/home/SOHO customers
On Aug 14, 2009, at 10:31 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote:
I'm just not able to wrap my brain around the subnetting that needs
to be done on the router.
One of the things which has struck me as being fairly insane about
current recommended 'best practices' for IPv6 addressing is the
practice
Chris Gotstein wrote:
I think we had to let ARIN know the time frame of deploying IPv6 and how
many customers we expected to put on in the first couple years. They
did not ask for an addressing scheme.
Reading over the RFC's and other IPv6 resources, we have decided to hand
out /56's to
Sounds like an excellent topic for a tutorial/talk/panel at the next NANOG.
--celeste.
- Original Message -
From: Chris Gotstein ch...@uplogon.com
Date: Friday, August 14, 2009 8:04 am
Subject: IPv6 Addressing Help
To: Nanog nanog@nanog.org
We are a small ISP that is in the process of
On Aug 14, 2009, at 8:49 AM, David Freedman wrote:
Chris Gotstein wrote:
I think we had to let ARIN know the time frame of deploying IPv6
and how
many customers we expected to put on in the first couple years. They
did not ask for an addressing scheme.
Reading over the RFC's and other
i believe this is recently trod NANOG ground. i've seen a number of
folks exploring techniques very similar to this from an addressing
plan perspective. it's simple, intuitive and if you don't like it,
well, you are free to craft your own. in either event it's a
practical discussion of some of
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009, David Freedman wrote:
Will keep it simple, this is what I (and I suspect many others) do
/128 - Loopback (what else?)
/126 - Router p2p
/112 - Router LAN shared segments (p2mp)
Why even go that big on LAN segments? i.e. If you have a LAN/VLAN where
you have say 20
Randy Bush wrote:
/126 - Router p2p
/127, see
MATSUZAKI Yoshinobu gave a talk describing the ping pong attack on /127
at a ripe or apricot or both. both web sites are absolutely horrid at
letting one find talks (see nanog for an example of good).
randy
Here's a link to the talk
-Original Message-
From: Roland Dobbins [mailto:rdobb...@arbor.net]
On Aug 14, 2009, at 10:31 PM, Chris Gotstein wrote:
I'm just not able to wrap my brain around the subnetting that needs to
be done on the router.
One of the things which has struck me as being fairly insane about current
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On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 11:03 AM, Chris Gotsteinch...@uplogon.com wrote:
We are a small ISP that is in the process of setting up IPv6 on our network.
We already have the ARIN allocation and i have a couple routers and servers
running dual stack. Wondering if someone out there would be willing
TJ wrote:
[..]
A great counter-point to this is that if you do use /64s (or for that matter
- anything shorter than the currently-not-recommended /127s, AFAIK), you
should apply ACLs to them to prevent ping-pong.
One should be doing uRPF at minimum on all links anyway. BCP84 ;)
If the user
William Herrin wrote:
[..]
I'm not aware of any way of dynamically assigning an IPv6 subnet to a
customer that's as well automated as IPv4 /32 dynamic assignment to a
DSL router with an RFC1918 NATed interior, but that may just be my
ignorance since I haven't needed to research it.
DHCP-PD
-Original Message-
From: Matthew Moyle-Croft [mailto:m...@internode.com.au]
Sent: Fri 8/14/2009 12:09 AM
To: Rod Beck
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves
Congrats Rod.
Southern Cross and Nortel have been trialing 40Gbps waves on the 8000km
segment from Hawaii to
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:55:36 BST, Rod Beck said:
Well, the funny thing is that when I approached bandwidth buyers at some
well known publicly traded carriers, they told me that 40 gig waves
across the Atlantic were impossible.
Theoretically impossible, or just impossible on the fiber that's
-Original Message-
From: valdis.kletni...@vt.edu [mailto:valdis.kletni...@vt.edu]
Sent: Fri 8/14/2009 8:12 PM
To: Rod Beck
Cc: Matthew Moyle-Croft; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: TransAtlantic 40 Gig Waves
On Fri, 14 Aug 2009 19:55:36 BST, Rod Beck said:
Well, the funny thing is that
Well, the funny thing is that when I approached bandwidth buyers at
some well known publicly traded carriers, they told me that 40 gig
waves across the Atlantic were impossible.
Theoretically impossible, or just impossible on the fiber that's
already underwater? Big difference there.
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 5:26 PM, trej...@gmail.com wrote:
IIRC, RIPE allocated a /19 to France Telecom. Doesn't take
more than a few hundred thousand allocations like that one
to wipe out the IPv6 address space.
Do we expect a few hundred thousand places that need 2^29
(500M, give or
... Dont know what web 2.0 is but the new portal is a web based
object management system complete
with recommended changes and inconsistency lists.
We just added prefix allocation check with backend information
from PCH (prefix checker tool).
Web 2.0 is marketroid drivel-speak for a method
Hi,
Chris Gotstein schrieb:
We are a small ISP that is in the process of setting up IPv6 on our
network. We already have the ARIN allocation and i have a couple routers
and servers running dual stack. Wondering if someone out there would be
willing to give me a few pointers on setting up my
BGP Update Report
Interval: 06-Aug-09 -to- 13-Aug-09 (7 days)
Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072
TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS
Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name
1 - AS4961 129280 4.6%2191.2 -- DISC-AS-KR Daewoo Information
System
2 - AS9198
This report has been generated at Fri Aug 14 21:11:44 2009 AEST.
The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router
and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table.
Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report.
Recent Table History
Date
In message 4a85878a.2000...@uk.clara.net, David Freedman writes:
Chris Gotstein wrote:
I think we had to let ARIN know the time frame of deploying IPv6 and how
many customers we expected to put on in the first couple years. They
did not ask for an addressing scheme.
Reading over
Cool. So we'll have $100 CPE which uses it in a relatively idiot-proof
manner sometime between now and eternity.
More now than eternity -
To: UKNOF uk...@lists.uknof.org.uk
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 2009 16:26:44 +0100
Marco Hogewoning of Dutch ISP XS4ALL talks about the roll out of IPv6
in
Sorry, to clear this up, after now two replies,
I was talking about delegation of the reverse zone to customer nameservers,
and yes, I'm aware you can do this at smaller than /48, we just happen not to
at present, we decided to draw the line somewhere (and what was relevant here
was our own,
On 15/08/2009, at 1:03 AM, Chris Gotstein wrote:
We are a small ISP that is in the process of setting up IPv6 on our
network. We already have the ARIN allocation and i have a couple
routers and servers running dual stack. Wondering if someone out
there would be willing to give me a few
On Aug 14, 2009, at 6:00 PM, cidr-rep...@potaroo.net wrote:
This report has been generated at Fri Aug 14 21:11:44 2009 AEST.
The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router
and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table.
Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 8:15 PM, Nathan Wardna...@daork.net wrote:
you are reinventing
classful addressing, and when one POP or city grows too large, you have to
make exceptions to your rules.
Nathan,
I'm going to contradict you there. Classful addressing had a lot to
recommend it. The basic
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