32-bit AS numbers

2009-10-09 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
Hi all, As you (hopefully) know, as of 1-1-2010, the RIRs will only be giving out 32-bit AS numbers. I'm writing an article for Ars Technica about this, and I was wondering about the perspective of network operators who may be faced with customers with a 32-bit AS number in the near

Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility

2009-10-09 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 06:25:53AM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: Additionally the problems of DDOS sourced from a collection of compromised hosts could be interfering with someone else's ability to make a successful VOIP call. Much more than that: they could be interfering with the underlying

109/8 - not a BOGON

2009-10-09 Thread Matthew Walster
Hi there, A customer of mine is reporting that there are a large number of addresses he can not reach with his addresses in the 109/8 range. This was declassified as a BOGON and assigned by IANA to RIPE in January 2009. If you have a manually updated BOGON list, can I please ask that you review

Re: 109/8 - not a BOGON

2009-10-09 Thread Shane Short
Hi Matthew, I had the same problem with our new range assigned to us by APNIC, out of 110/8 You're in for a long, hard and frustrating road. If you manage to get in contact with anyone, or anyone responds to you, mind letting me know? I'd suspect they'd probably have us blocked still

RE: 109/8 - not a BOGON

2009-10-09 Thread John Stuppi (jstuppi)
The 109/8 range was removed from our ISP Ingress Prefix Filters in version 22 (dated 6-Feb-2009): ftp://ftp-eng.cisco.com/cons/isp/security/Ingress-Prefix-Filter-Template s/T-ip-prefix-filter-ingress-loose-check-v22.txt Thanks, John -Original Message- From: Matthew Walster

Re: 109/8 - not a BOGON

2009-10-09 Thread Leo Vegoda
On 09/10/2009 4:22, Matthew Walster matt...@walster.org wrote: A customer of mine is reporting that there are a large number of addresses he can not reach with his addresses in the 109/8 range. This was declassified as a BOGON and assigned by IANA to RIPE in January 2009. If you have a

Invalid prefix announcement from AS9035 for 129.77.0.0/16

2009-10-09 Thread Matthew Huff
About 4 hours ago BGPmon picked up a rogue announcement of 129.77.0.0 from AS9035 (ASN-WIND Wind Telecomunicazioni spa) with an upstream of AS1267 (ASN-INFOSTRADA Infostrada S.p.A.). I don't see it now on any looking glass sites. Hopefully this was just a typo that was quickly corrected. I

Re: Invalid prefix announcement from AS9035 for 129.77.0.0/16

2009-10-09 Thread Wouter Prins
Hi Matthew, You are not the only one having this issue. They are announcing some other prefixes as well! 2009/10/9 Matthew Huff mh...@ox.com About 4 hours ago BGPmon picked up a rogue announcement of 129.77.0.0 from AS9035 (ASN-WIND Wind Telecomunicazioni spa) with an upstream of AS1267

Re: Invalid prefix announcement from AS9035 for 129.77.0.0/16

2009-10-09 Thread Adam Kennedy
Agreed. Our prefixes at AS40060 were announced as well. I received a notification around 7:00am EDT that our prefixes were detected announced from AS9035 with the same upstream AS1267. On 10/9/09 8:34 AM, Wouter Prins w...@null0.nl wrote: Hi Matthew, You are not the only one having this

RE: 32-bit AS numbers

2009-10-09 Thread Azinger, Marla
Hi Iljitsch- This statement isnt entirely correct. Im not sure if this is just a word smithing error in your email or if the management of this issue in the ARIN region isnt well known. I can only address the ARIN region but in that region if there is a 16 bit ASN in the free pool it will be

RE: Invalid prefix announcement from AS9035 for 129.77.0.0/16

2009-10-09 Thread Dylan Ebner
We also received a notification that our IP block 67.135.55.0/24 (AS19629) is being annouced by AS9035. Hopefully someone is receiving my emails. Thanks Dylan Ebner, Network Engineer Consulting Radiologists, Ltd. 1221 Nicollet Mall, Minneapolis, MN 55403 ph. 612.573.2236 fax. 612.573.2250

Re: Invalid prefix announcement from AS9035 for 129.77.0.0/16

2009-10-09 Thread Jim Cowie
Lots of people were affected, but none significantly. They originated 86,747 networks very briefly (less than a minute at 7:23 UTC), and I don't think anyone outside Telecom Italia's customer cone even saw them. So the impact was really, really limited. The correct origins were being

Re: Invalid prefix announcement from AS9035 for 129.77.0.0/16

2009-10-09 Thread sjk
We are seeing the same ting with 66.146.192.0/19 66.251.224.0/19. According to cyclopes this is still continuing. . . Dylan Ebner wrote: We also received a notification that our IP block 67.135.55.0/24 (AS19629) is being annouced by AS9035. Hopefully someone is receiving my emails. Thanks

RE: Invalid prefix announcement from AS9035 for 129.77.0.0/16

2009-10-09 Thread Dylan Ebner
Does anyone know why it takes BGPMon so long to send out an email. It looks like it BGPMon detected the AS9035 announcements at the right time (around 7:00 UTC) but I didn't get a notification until around 13:00 UTC. It seems like many people rely on BGPMon to do this type of detection, so the

RE: Invalid prefix announcement from AS9035 for 129.77.0.0/16

2009-10-09 Thread Dylan Ebner
I just received confirmation from AS9035 that they are not annoucing my IP block. Dylan Ebner, Network Engineer -Original Message- From: sjk [mailto:s...@sleepycatz.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 9:20 AM Cc: nanog@nanog.org Subject: Re: Invalid prefix announcement from AS9035

RE: Invalid prefix announcement from AS9035 for 129.77.0.0/16

2009-10-09 Thread Andrew Nusbaum
Usually I get alerts from BGPMon within about 20 minutes of an event being detected. Not so much with the event this morning. I'm guessing that the orgination of 86,747 prefixes from the wrong AS probably got their MTA pretty busy... -Original Message- From: Dylan Ebner

Time Warner/Road Runner issues in the Mid West

2009-10-09 Thread Mike Maberry
Is anyone else seeing connectivity issues to the internet using Time Warner/Road Runner in the Mid West? Kansas City and Wisconsin seem to be unable to access sites on the west coast...

RE: Invalid prefix announcement from AS9035 for 129.77.0.0/16

2009-10-09 Thread Dylan Ebner
I thought that may be the case as well. Do people know of other services like BGPMon that may be able to keep up with the load better? Does anyone know how cyclops faired this morning with the additional load? Dylan Ebner -Original Message- From: Andrew Nusbaum

Re: Invalid prefix announcement from AS9035 for 129.77.0.0/16

2009-10-09 Thread christian
there are multiple systems available, sign up for a few i've noticed cyclops alerts are sent faster than bgpon PHAS was fast, but the project is over and something new is going to be released there is ripe MyASN there is watchmynet and IAR On Fri, Oct 9, 2009 at 7:23 AM, Dylan Ebner

RE: Invalid prefix announcement from AS9035 for 129.77.0.0/16

2009-10-09 Thread Andrew Nusbaum
I actually got origin change alerts from Cyclops about 2 minutes after the announcements started. -Andy -Original Message- From: Dylan Ebner [mailto:dylan.eb...@crlmed.com] Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 10:31 AM To: Andrew Nusbaum; Jim Cowie; Adam Kennedy Cc: NANOG Subject: RE:

Re: 32-bit AS numbers

2009-10-09 Thread Greg Hankins
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 10:31:52AM +0200, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: As you (hopefully) know, as of 1-1-2010, the RIRs will only be giving out 32-bit AS numbers. I'm writing an article for Ars Technica about this, and I was wondering about the perspective of network operators who may be

Re: Time Warner/Road Runner issues in the Mid West

2009-10-09 Thread Jeff Aitken
On Fri, Oct 09, 2009 at 07:30:19AM -0700, Mike Maberry wrote: Is anyone else seeing connectivity issues to the internet using Time Warner/Road Runner in the Mid West? Kansas City and Wisconsin seem to be unable to access sites on the west coast... Mike, There is an ongoing issue that our ops

Re: 32-bit AS numbers

2009-10-09 Thread Kevin Loch
Greg Hankins wrote: We also started a Wiki with content based on the presentation that has more updated information, including a current list of vendor support. If you see a vendor missing, let us know and we can update the list. Or better yet, create an account and add some content yourself

Re: 32-bit AS numbers

2009-10-09 Thread Jared Mauch
On Oct 9, 2009, at 12:05 PM, Kevin Loch wrote: Greg Hankins wrote: We also started a Wiki with content based on the presentation that has more updated information, including a current list of vendor support. If you see a vendor missing, let us know and we can update the list. Or better

RE: 32-bit AS numbers

2009-10-09 Thread Randy Epstein
While it's good to see support _finally_ in 2.2SX, I still don't see it in 12.2SR (for rsp720). It's almost like Cisco has no idea how many of these things are actually used on the Internet. This is actually our issue as well. Our backbone runs primarily RSP720's (with some Sup720's for good

RE: 32-bit AS numbers

2009-10-09 Thread Larry May
We are running into the same issues regarding 12.0 train for 12008 GSR w/PRP-2's. Even though there are IOS's that have a fixed 4 Byte ASN code...it has other bugs in NSF-SSO that we use here extensively. So hence the reason we are waiting to upgrade. Larry May Network Services n|Frame

Re: Time Warner/Road Runner issues in the Mid West

2009-10-09 Thread Chaim Rieger
Mike Maberry wrote: Is anyone else seeing connectivity issues to the internet using Time Warner/Road Runner in the Mid West? Kansas City and Wisconsin seem to be unable to access sites on the west coast... Still ongoing in los angeles,

wanted: facebook technical contact

2009-10-09 Thread Adrian Chadd
howdy, I'm chasing a technical contact at Facebook. There's some broken HTTP being served which is confusing Squid in a way that isn't easily, cleanly worked around. Please feel free to contact me off-list. Thanks, Adrian

Weekly Routing Table Report

2009-10-09 Thread Routing Analysis Role Account
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to bgp-st...@lists.apnic.net For historical data, please see http://thyme.apnic.net. If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith

Re: wanted: facebook technical contact

2009-10-09 Thread Adrian Chadd
A few people have asked what the specific problem is. http://www.squid-cache.org/mail-archive/squid-dev/200910/0089.html Adrian On Sat, Oct 10, 2009, Adrian Chadd wrote: howdy, I'm chasing a technical contact at Facebook. There's some broken HTTP being served which is confusing Squid in

Re: wanted: facebook technical contact

2009-10-09 Thread Adrian Chadd
It is a HTTP/1.0 vs HTTP/1.1 thing (Chunked encoding for HTTP/1.1 doesn't require you to calculate and send a Content-Length.) Adrian On Fri, Oct 09, 2009, Jared Mauch wrote: I've been having the same issue when going through my Linux+Squid+WCCP setup, but if the browser is configured to

Re: ISP customer assignments

2009-10-09 Thread Michael Dillon
How are other providers approaching dial-up? I would presume we are in the same boat as a lot of other folks - we have aging dial-up equipment that does not support IPv6 (3com Total Control). Our customer base has dropped quite a bit, and we have even kicked around the idea dropping that

BGP Update Report

2009-10-09 Thread cidr-report
BGP Update Report Interval: 01-Oct-09 -to- 08-Oct-09 (7 days) Observation Point: BGP Peering with AS131072 TOP 20 Unstable Origin AS Rank ASNUpds % Upds/PfxAS-Name 1 - AS919849597 4.6% 163.7 -- KAZTELECOM-AS Kazakhtelecom Corporate Sales Administration

The Cidr Report

2009-10-09 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Oct 9 21:11:14 2009 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of AS2.0 router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org for a current version of this report. Recent Table History Date

Re: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-09 Thread Dragos Ruiu
On 7-Oct-09, at 11:22 AM, Scott Morris wrote: I may be having my wires a little crossed (I'm not an electrical engineer) but I was always under the impression that manipulation of the physical characteristics like that from heat/dampness didn't reduce the speed but the quality (like line

RE: Does Internet Speed Vary by Season?

2009-10-09 Thread Dave Larter
I may be missing a little bit here by jumping a bit in the thread so sorry. What is the difference between weather and seasonal? I define weather like, well its cloudy and raining here and get in the car and drive 20 minutes and it is clear and sunny. I would call this mostly localized, like

Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility

2009-10-09 Thread Lee
On 10/9/09, Rich Kulawiec r...@gsp.org wrote: On Wed, Oct 07, 2009 at 06:25:53AM -0700, Owen DeLong wrote: Additionally the problems of DDOS sourced from a collection of compromised hosts could be interfering with someone else's ability to make a successful VOIP call. Much more than that:

RE: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility

2009-10-09 Thread Skywing
or when I initiate offsite backups. I've seen ISPs that react to just traffic bursts. It's not the way to go without more intelligent decision making on the content (i.e. SMTP, all SYNs, etc). Of course, content inspection is a whole 'nother hornet's nest :) - S -Original

Re: Dutch ISPs to collaborate and take responsibility

2009-10-09 Thread Michael Painter
Lee wrote: If an ISP is involved with tracking down DDOS participants or something, I can understand how they'd know a system was compromised. But any kind of blocking because the ISP sees 'anomalous' traffic seems .. premature at best. SANS newsbites has this bit: On Thursday, October 8,