Re: ip address management

2010-02-03 Thread Andy Davidson
On 02/02/2010 21:14, Scott Berkman wrote: I was about to suggest IPPlan, but it is lacking the V6 support. Here is one I found doing some searching, but I haven't used it myself: We use IPPlan for ipv4 and a fairly flexible, but less fully featured management program called vim for ipv6.

Re: ip address management

2010-02-03 Thread Nathan Ward
I'm actually writing some IP management code. Web based, it knows about the difference between IPv4 and IPv6 in maybe 3 or 4 places. Intention is to release it publicly when it's good to go. On 3/02/2010, at 10:14 AM, Scott Berkman wrote: I was about to suggest IPPlan, but it is lacking the V6

Re: ip address management

2010-02-03 Thread Phil Regnauld
Andy Davidson (andy) writes: It looks like the lack of ipv6 support in ipplan is partly due to the maintainer not wanting to support it, so we might be tempted to (if the license permits) It's GPL... So for away :) Also, you might want to look at TIPP:

Re: ip address management

2010-02-03 Thread Phil Regnauld
Phil Regnauld (regnauld) writes: Future of TIPP - import/export from/to CSV; - IP availability checks (pinging); - editing ranges of IP addresses at once; - plugin architecture for better integration with the existing systems; - IPv6 support; Update: IPv6 is planned during

Re: Mitigating human error in the SP

2010-02-03 Thread Brian Raaen
Reminds me of the saying, nothing is foolproof given a sufficiently talented fool. I do agree that checklist, peer reviews, parallel turnups, and lab testing when used and not jury rigged have helped me prepare for issue. Usually when I skipped those things are the time I kick myself for not

Re: ip address management

2010-02-03 Thread Nick Hilliard
On 03/02/2010 12:51, Andy Davidson wrote: It looks like the lack of ipv6 support in ipplan is partly due to the maintainer not wanting to support it, so we might be tempted to (if the license permits) fork the project and hack in support. There is a FAQ entry for ipv6 support in ipplan: One

Re: Research Project: Internet capacity during pandemic events

2010-02-03 Thread Ken Gilmour
It's not related to Canada directly but but it is related to your question. The following links are to the NANOG archive from Sep 11th 2001 where there was some very good communication, specifically from Sean Donnelan regarding connectivity during crisis. It shows the unknowns that people faced

Re: ip address management

2010-02-03 Thread Phil Regnauld
Nick Hilliard (nick) writes: There is a FAQ entry for ipv6 support in ipplan: One feature request that comes up from time to time is IPv6. Adding IPv6 support will require major effort but has such a limited audience. Ironically the only people that ever requested IPv6 support are

Re: Datacenter for DR in northwestern NJ/NY

2010-02-03 Thread Tim Durack
On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 6:19 PM, Steven Bellovin s...@cs.columbia.edu wrote: On Feb 2, 2010, at 5:52 PM, Cerniglia, Brandon wrote: Cervalis has facilities in wappingers ny 1.5 hours from NYC Hmm -- where to the fibers run from a facility like that?  Are the all homed to NYC, or are there

How polluted is 1/8?

2010-02-03 Thread Mirjam Kuehne
Hello, After 1/8 was allocated to APNIC last week, the RIPE NCC did some measurements to find out how polluted this block really is. See some surprising results on RIPE Labs: http://labs.ripe.net/content/pollution-18 Please also note the call for feedback at the bottom of the article.

Re: How polluted is 1/8?

2010-02-03 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 04:49:00PM +0100, Mirjam Kuehne m...@ripe.net wrote a message of 15 lines which said: After 1/8 was allocated to APNIC last week, the RIPE NCC did some measurements to find out how polluted this block really is. See some surprising results on RIPE Labs:

Re: ip address management

2010-02-03 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Phil Regnauld wrote: Nick Hilliard (nick) writes: There is a FAQ entry for ipv6 support in ipplan: One feature request that comes up from time to time is IPv6. Adding IPv6 support will require major effort but has such a limited audience. Ironically the only people that ever requested IPv6

Re: How polluted is 1/8?

2010-02-03 Thread Joel Jaeggli
It should be of no surprise to anyone that a number of the remaining prefixes are something of a mess(somebody ask t-mobile how they're using 14/8 internally for example). One's new ipv4 assignments are going to be of significantly lower quality than the one received a decade ago, The property is

Re: How polluted is 1/8?

2010-02-03 Thread Leo Bicknell
In a message written on Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 04:49:00PM +0100, Mirjam Kuehne wrote: After 1/8 was allocated to APNIC last week, the RIPE NCC did some measurements to find out how polluted this block really is. Having this data is useful, but I can't help to think it would be more useful if it

Re: Mitigating human error in the SP

2010-02-03 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 09:46:07PM -0500, Stefan Fouant wrote: Vijay Gill had some real interesting insights into this in a presentation he gave back at NANOG 44: http://www.nanog.org/meetings/nanog44/presentations/Monday/Gill_programatic_N44.pdf His Blog article on Infrastructure is

Re: Research Project: Internet capacity during pandemic events

2010-02-03 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
Mike, Is your interest events like the recent semi-non-event with H1N1, where for contagation management, workforce labor and school age children were not compulsorily aggregated, or morbidity and mortality effects on network operator labor for an event such as the dispersal of a weaponized

Re: Mitigating human error in the SP

2010-02-03 Thread Christopher Morrow
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 11:14 AM, Ross Vandegrift r...@kallisti.us wrote: On Mon, Feb 01, 2010 at 09:46:07PM -0500, Stefan Fouant wrote: Vijay Gill had some real interesting insights into this in a presentation he gave back at NANOG 44:

RE: Datacenter for DR in northwestern NJ/NY

2010-02-03 Thread Jeffrey Meltzer
I haven't worked with them personally but am aware of FiberTech and have spoken with them. http://www.fibertech.com/enterprise/colocation-service/ If you need a contact him me off list. -- Jeffrey Meltzer Director of Network Operations Long Island Fiber Exchange / Exobit Networks (A LIFE

BGP FlowSpec (RFC 5575) route injector

2010-02-03 Thread Thomas Mangin
Hi, I juste added some preliminary support for FlowSpec (RFC5575) to my BGP route injector http://bgp.exa.org.uk/ As I am not aware of any other project allowing to inject flow route into a network, I am taking the liberty to plug it here. You can access the SVN repository at:

Re: Datacenter for DR in northwestern NJ/NY

2010-02-03 Thread Leslie
Hello NANOG! Does anyone know of some strong datacenters in northwestern NJ, or north of Westchester NY without getting too far away from NYC? I'm looking for a DR colo solution for a site that is in NYC; this needs to be at least 50m away from NYC, but I'm trying to keep it not too much

[NANOG] Contacts @ China Unicom and China Telecom

2010-02-03 Thread Justin Ream
Hi All - Does anyone have peering contacts for China Unicom and China Telecom? Finding that the ones for Any2 in peeringdb.com are no good. Will take replies offlist, thanks! -justin

Re: [NANOG] Contacts @ China Unicom and China Telecom

2010-02-03 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Wed, Feb 03, 2010 at 11:40:38AM -0800, Justin Ream wrote: Hi All - Does anyone have peering contacts for China Unicom and China Telecom? Finding that the ones for Any2 in peeringdb.com are no good. Will take replies offlist, thanks! Last I checked the China Telecom e-mails listed worked

Re: How polluted is 1/8?

2010-02-03 Thread Joel M Snyder
Having this data is useful, but I can't help to think it would be more useful if it were compared with 27/8, or other networks. Is this slightly worse, or significantly worse than other networks? I have only anecdotal information regarding 45/8. 45/8 is assigned to Interop, and as such it

Re: How polluted is 1/8?

2010-02-03 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Joel M Snyder wrote: This information is very different from the RIPE Labs experiment which I think showed that certain obvious addresses (1.1.1.1 seemed to be the kicker in my short reading of their report) were being mis-used heavily. But I suspect that 27/8 would have

Fwd: [Geowanking] model of the internet - need data

2010-02-03 Thread Randy Fischer
Hello,  longtime lurker here,  an acquaintance is looking for lat/long data and I thought this group might not object to this request.  (if you do, it's my fault, not that of Anselm). -Randy Fischer -- Forwarded message -- From: Anselm Hook Date: Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 1:14 PM

Re: [Geowanking] model of the internet - need data

2010-02-03 Thread chip
Get your data with these: http://www.maxmind.com/app/api From this database (OSS/Free): http://www.maxmind.com/app/geolitecity Map it with this http://code.google.com/apis/kml/documentation/ Enjoy! --chip On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Randy Fischer fisc...@sacred.net wrote: Hello,

Re: How polluted is 1/8?

2010-02-03 Thread Larry Sheldon
On 2/3/2010 2:19 PM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: I could see holding those prefixes aside for research purposes (spam traps, honey pots, etc...). I think it is too bad that we didn't have the forethought to route all of those networks to 100-watt resistors some years ago. When I last was

Re: How polluted is 1/8?

2010-02-03 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010, Larry Sheldon wrote: On 2/3/2010 2:19 PM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: I could see holding those prefixes aside for research purposes (spam traps, honey pots, etc...). I think it is too bad that we didn't have the forethought to route all of those networks to 100-watt

RE: How polluted is 1/8?

2010-02-03 Thread Deepak Jain
If some unfortunate soul does get 1.1.1.1, 1.2.3.4, 1.3.3.7, etc, they would also likely experience significant global reachability problems in addition to all of the unintended noise that gets sent their way. There are many sites that specifically filter those addresses, in addition to

Re: ip address management

2010-02-03 Thread Bao Nguyen
I want to point out that OpenNetAdmin (ONA) is a great IP/DNS/Host tracking tool, although not supporting IPv6 yet. It's the first GPL I know of that uses the concept of an abstract host which can have multiple DNS names or IPs. I used IPPLAN in the past but have recently converted to ONA for

Re: [Geowanking] model of the internet - need data

2010-02-03 Thread Scott Howard
On Wed, Feb 3, 2010 at 12:41 PM, chip chip.g...@gmail.com wrote: Get your data with these: http://www.maxmind.com/app/api From this database (OSS/Free): http://www.maxmind.com/app/geolitecity In my experience Maxmind does at best a fairly ordinary job when it comes to routers, especially if

Re: ip address management

2010-02-03 Thread Mark Smith
On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 16:15:30 +0100 Phil Regnauld regna...@nsrc.org wrote: Nick Hilliard (nick) writes: There is a FAQ entry for ipv6 support in ipplan: One feature request that comes up from time to time is IPv6. Adding IPv6 support will require major effort but has such a limited

Re: How polluted is 1/8?

2010-02-03 Thread John Payne
On Feb 3, 2010, at 3:10 PM, Joel M Snyder wrote: Having this data is useful, but I can't help to think it would be more useful if it were compared with 27/8, or other networks. Is this slightly worse, or significantly worse than other networks? I have only anecdotal information

Re: How polluted is 1/8?

2010-02-03 Thread Nathan Ward
On 4/02/2010, at 9:19 AM, Justin M. Streiner wrote: I would hope that the APNIC would opt not to assign networks that would contain 1.1.1.1 or 1.2.3.4 to customers for exactly that reason. The signal-to-noise ratio for those addresses is likely pretty high. The noise is likely contained

Re: Mitigating human error in the SP

2010-02-03 Thread Michael Dillon
3) Automation interfaces are largely unsupported: CLI is an automation interface. Combine that with a management server from which telnet sessions to the router can be managed, and you have probably the lowest risk automation interface possible. This may force you into building your own tools,

RE: ip address management

2010-02-03 Thread Carlos Vicente
/20100203-vincente.pdf Feedback welcome. Regards, Carlos Vicente University of Oregon

Re: ip address management

2010-02-03 Thread Arnd Vehling
Hi, Pavel Dimow wrote: does anybody knows what happend with ipat? http://nethead.de/index.php/ipat http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/Tools_and_Resources i did take the sources offline a couple of weeks ago cause there didnt seemed to be a lot interest in the software. If you want i can

Re: ip address management

2010-02-03 Thread Brian R. Watters
Please do send the dn/load link .. thanks - Arnd Vehling a...@nethead.de wrote: Hi, Pavel Dimow wrote: does anybody knows what happend with ipat? http://nethead.de/index.php/ipat http://nanog.cluepon.net/index.php/Tools_and_Resources i did take the sources offline a couple

google contact? why is google hosting/supporting/encouraging spammers?

2010-02-03 Thread Jim Mercer
we have recently started getting alot of spam, out of dubai, from ecampaigners@gmail.com all of the spam comes from/through google and google groups. is this accepted/supported activity on google? if not, where might i find a contact who can cluefully respond? -- Jim Mercer

Re: Mitigating human error in the SP

2010-02-03 Thread David Hiers
You can completely implement Vijay's most impressive stuff and simply move the problem to a different level of abstraction. No matter what you do, it still comes down to some geek banging on some plastic thingy. I'm as likely to screw up an Extensible Entity-Attribute-Relationship as I am an

Re: google contact? why is google hosting/supporting/encouraging spammers?

2010-02-03 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
ab...@gmail.com maybe? Looks like some random spammer based in Dubai judging by the airport code. On Thu, Feb 4, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Jim Mercer j...@reptiles.org wrote: we have recently started getting alot of spam, out of dubai, from ecampaigners@gmail.com all of the spam comes

Re: google contact? why is google hosting/supporting/encouraging spammers?

2010-02-03 Thread Jim Mercer
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 12:35:06PM +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: ab...@gmail.com maybe? Looks like some random spammer based in Dubai judging by the airport code. yeah, tried that several times. seems to go to a black hole. i've engaged the spammer, and they are telling me that they

Re: google contact? why is google hosting/supporting/encouraging spammers?

2010-02-03 Thread David Ford
Google groups cautions you about pre-emptively adding people if you choose this method of subscribing them. On 02/04/10 02:12, Jim Mercer wrote: [...] and google is ok with that? geez, do no harm really? --jim

Re: google contact? why is google hosting/supporting/encouraging spammers?

2010-02-03 Thread Jim Mercer
On Thu, Feb 04, 2010 at 02:49:42AM -0500, David Ford wrote: Google groups cautions you about pre-emptively adding people if you choose this method of subscribing them. here, have some free guns. oh, by the way, its probably bad if you go around shooting people, so don't do that. it is